Re: Bug#361418: [Proposal] new Debian menu structure

2006-06-21 Thread Jon Dowland
At 1150848896 past the epoch, Linas Žvirblis wrote: > Jon Dowland wrote: > >> -- Text > >> ++ Text Tools/Utilities/Accessories... > > > > Could you give an example of what would belong there? > > That is a no, unless you can provide a very accurate > description, so that people would not think t

Bug#374029: Fixing inconsisten and unusefull Build-Depends/Conflicts definition

2006-06-21 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Wouter Verhelst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Therefore, if the implementation of sbuild differs from whatever Policy > happens to claim, then Policy is simply wrong. As state before policy is wrong. That doesn't mean we can't change both policy and sbuild at the same time to something that both

Re: Bug#370471: use of "invoke-rc.d $PACKAGE stop || exit $?" in prerm scripts

2006-06-21 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Wed, 21 Jun 2006, Gerrit Pape wrote: > On Mon, Jun 05, 2006 at 03:36:30PM +0300, Lars Wirzenius wrote: > > The policy manual says (9.3.2 Writing the scripts): > > > > The init.d scripts should ensure that they will behave sensibly > > if invoked with start when the service is al

Re: Bug#374029: Fixing inconsisten and unusefull Build-Depends/Conflicts definition

2006-06-21 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Wouter Verhelst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Tue, Jun 20, 2006 at 07:52:01PM -0700, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: >> Stephen Gran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> >> > This one time, at band camp, Thomas Bushnell BSG said: >> >> Wouter Verhelst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> >> >> >> > Sbuild exp

Re: Bug#374029: Fixing inconsisten and unusefull Build-Depends/Conflicts definition

2006-06-21 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Stephen Gran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > This one time, at band camp, Thomas Bushnell BSG said: >> Whenever this has been asked in the past, sbuild has simply declared >> "this is how I want to do it." I have no idea why. >> >> If there is no technical reason for sbuild to behave this way, and

Re: Bug#374029: Fixing inconsisten and unusefull Build-Depends/Conflicts definition

2006-06-21 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Thomas Bushnell BSG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Stephen Gran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> This one time, at band camp, Thomas Bushnell BSG said: >>> Wouter Verhelst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >>> >>> > Sbuild explicitely, by design, only looks at build-depends. So in order >>> > for build-

Re: Bug#370471: use of "invoke-rc.d $PACKAGE stop || exit $?" in prerm scripts

2006-06-21 Thread Gerrit Pape
On Mon, Jun 05, 2006 at 03:36:30PM +0300, Lars Wirzenius wrote: > The policy manual says (9.3.2 Writing the scripts): > > The init.d scripts should ensure that they will behave sensibly > if invoked with start when the service is already running, or > with stop when it isn'

Re: Bug#374029: Fixing inconsisten and unusefull Build-Depends/Conflicts definition

2006-06-21 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Tue, Jun 20, 2006 at 07:52:01PM -0700, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: > Stephen Gran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > This one time, at band camp, Thomas Bushnell BSG said: > >> Wouter Verhelst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> > >> > Sbuild explicitely, by design, only looks at build-depends. So

Re: Bug#374029: Fixing inconsisten and unusefull Build-Depends/Conflicts definition

2006-06-21 Thread Stephen Gran
This one time, at band camp, Thomas Bushnell BSG said: > Whenever this has been asked in the past, sbuild has simply declared > "this is how I want to do it." I have no idea why. > > If there is no technical reason for sbuild to behave this way, and if > it does not in fact conform to policy, how