Re: Date and Upsteam-URL fields

2006-06-08 Thread Andreas Barth
* Russ Allbery ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [060609 02:14]: > Vincent Danjean <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Kai Hendry wrote: > > >> Many package descriptions have a Website: field already. It should just > >> be in policy too, to promote this good helpful practice. > > > For now, it is in the developpe

Re: Date and Upsteam-URL fields

2006-06-08 Thread Chris Waters
On Fri, Jun 09, 2006 at 10:51:52AM +0900, Kai Hendry wrote: > On 2006-06-08T17:49-0700 Chris Waters wrote: > > Until dpkg supports it, there's little point in debating it on -policy. > So that's how it works? First dpkg implements the feature, then we can > think about making it policy? Basically

Re: Date and Upsteam-URL fields

2006-06-08 Thread Margarita Manterola
Hi! On 6/8/06, Kai Hendry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 2006-06-08T17:49-0700 Chris Waters wrote: > Until dpkg supports it, there's little point in debating it on -policy. So that's how it works? First dpkg implements the feature, then we can think about making it policy? Actually, yes. That'

Re: Date and Upsteam-URL fields

2006-06-08 Thread Kai Hendry
On 2006-06-08T17:49-0700 Chris Waters wrote: > Until dpkg supports it, there's little point in debating it on -policy. So that's how it works? First dpkg implements the feature, then we can think about making it policy? The devel-reference hack isn't working. http://www.debian.org/doc/developer

Re: Date and Upsteam-URL fields

2006-06-08 Thread Chris Waters
On Thu, Jun 08, 2006 at 05:19:00PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > Chris Waters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > URL: this has been discussed before many times. No reasonable argument > > for making it a special field, rather than part of the package > > description, has ever been put forth. The h

Re: Date and Upsteam-URL fields

2006-06-08 Thread Russ Allbery
Chris Waters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > URL: this has been discussed before many times. No reasonable argument > for making it a special field, rather than part of the package > description, has ever been put forth. The homepage is a matter of > interest to humans, not computers. Except that

Re: Date and Upsteam-URL fields

2006-06-08 Thread Russ Allbery
Vincent Danjean <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Kai Hendry wrote: >> Many package descriptions have a Website: field already. It should just >> be in policy too, to promote this good helpful practice. > For now, it is in the developper reference (and it is ' Homepage:' at > the end of the long des

Re: Date and Upsteam-URL fields

2006-06-08 Thread Chris Waters
On Thu, Jun 08, 2006 at 02:48:34PM +0200, Bill Allombert wrote: > On Thu, Jun 08, 2006 at 04:28:36AM -0700, Chris Waters wrote: > > Date: [...] Talk to the dpkg maintainers-- > > they're free to implement this feature if they want. It's not a > > matter for policy. > I agree it is not a matter fo

Re: Sales Meds Online

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Re: Date and Upsteam-URL fields

2006-06-08 Thread Vincent Danjean
Kai Hendry wrote: > Many package descriptions have a Website: field already. It should just > be in policy too, to promote this good helpful practice. For now, it is in the developper reference (and it is ' Homepage:' at the end of the long description): http://www.debian.org/doc/developers-refer

Re: Meds For Sale !

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Bug#372147: debian-policy: s/control are/&a/; s/stats/status/; s/and/an/; s/'/"/; s/rewind/unwind/; s/fact/& that/; s/like like/look like/;

2006-06-08 Thread Justin Pryzby
Package: debian-policy Version: 3.7.2.0 Severity: minor 6.1. Introduction to package maintainer scripts `postinst' script should install a `config' script in the control are, ^^^ 6.4. Exit status exit stats of these scripts and det

Bug#372148: debian-policy: old postinst abort-upgrade, not new

2006-06-08 Thread Justin Pryzby
Package: debian-policy Version: 3.7.2.0 Severity: normal $ echo 1 >counter; DPKG_DEBUG=2 sudo dpkg -i a.deb (Reading database ... 100920 files and directories currently installed.) Preparing to replace a 1 (using a.deb) ... Runnning: /var/lib/dpkg/info/a.prerm upgrade 1 Desired=Unknown/Install/Re

Re: Date and Upsteam-URL fields

2006-06-08 Thread Bill Allombert
On Thu, Jun 08, 2006 at 04:28:36AM -0700, Chris Waters wrote: > Date: no. This is pointless. The information is rarely of interest > to anyone, and is already available to those who actually want to > know, for whatever reason. And in any case, it has nothing to do with > policy. Such a field c

Re: Date and Upsteam-URL fields

2006-06-08 Thread Chris Waters
Date: no. This is pointless. The information is rarely of interest to anyone, and is already available to those who actually want to know, for whatever reason. And in any case, it has nothing to do with policy. Such a field could not be created manually. It would have to be generated by dpkg-b

Re: Bug#370471: use of "invoke-rc.d $PACKAGE stop || exit $?" in prerm scripts

2006-06-08 Thread Ian Jackson
Frank Küster writes ("Re: Bug#370471: use of "invoke-rc.d $PACKAGE stop || exit $?" in prerm scripts"): > Does anybody have an idea how the description of restart could be worded > better to make #224937 a violation of a must-clause? It's annoying when > maintainers insist on a clearly not-intend

Re: Date and Upsteam-URL fields

2006-06-08 Thread Bill Allombert
On Thu, Jun 08, 2006 at 12:31:29AM -0700, Don Armstrong wrote: > On Thu, 08 Jun 2006, Kai Hendry wrote: > > One being Date: > > > > To show when the package was last touched. Currently I get this > > information from the painfully from the "Latest News" section of the QA > > page, e.g.: http://pac

Re: Date and Upsteam-URL fields

2006-06-08 Thread Kai Hendry
On 2006-06-08T01:19-0700 Don Armstrong wrote: > You might as well start by looking for something like that, then just > fall back upon anything that looks like a URL if there's no indication > which url is the specific upstream location; putting this into the > control file doesn't really make all

Re: Date and Upsteam-URL fields

2006-06-08 Thread Don Armstrong
On Thu, 08 Jun 2006, Kai Hendry wrote: > On 2006-06-08T00:31-0700 Don Armstrong wrote: > > Is there any reason why > > zcat /usr/share/doc//changelog.Debian.gz |perl -ne \ > > 'next unless /^ -- .+?\s{2}(.+)$/; print $1,qq(\n) and exit;'; > > isn't sufficient for all non-native packages? > > What

Re: Date and Upsteam-URL fields

2006-06-08 Thread Kai Hendry
On 2006-06-08T00:31-0700 Don Armstrong wrote: > Is there any reason why > zcat /usr/share/doc//changelog.Debian.gz |perl -ne \ > 'next unless /^ -- .+?\s{2}(.+)$/; print $1,qq(\n) and exit;'; > isn't sufficient for all non-native packages? What if that package isn't installed on your system? It's

Re: Date and Upsteam-URL fields

2006-06-08 Thread Don Armstrong
On Thu, 08 Jun 2006, Kai Hendry wrote: > One being Date: > > To show when the package was last touched. Currently I get this > information from the painfully from the "Latest News" section of the QA > page, e.g.: http://packages.qa.debian.org/g/geomview.html Is there any reason why zcat /usr/sha