Re: Package which uses jam (instead make)

2003-10-21 Thread Josip Rodin
On Tue, Oct 21, 2003 at 05:01:21PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > the fact is that this has been accepted practice as long as there has > been a rules file, and has been documented as being a Makefile for some > time now. > > Given the lack of a compelling technical reason to change, >

Re: Bug#88029: Package which uses jam (instead make)

2003-10-21 Thread Josip Rodin
On Tue, Oct 21, 2003 at 05:13:14PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > I have made a few (including ./debian/rules in an superset > debugging makefile, passing variables in MAKEFLAGS, using -j, -n, -p > and other make arguments to arrive at similar invocations, using > VPATH's et all to tempo

Re: Package which uses jam (instead make)

2003-10-21 Thread Josip Rodin
On Tue, Oct 21, 2003 at 05:03:53PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > >> If you do not stick to the documented interfaces, you lose the > >> ability in my eyes to express outrage when the interfaces you use > >> change. > > > Except one important difference -- in this case, NOTHING CHANGES in > > th

Re: Bug#88029: Package which uses jam (instead make)

2003-10-21 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Tue, 21 Oct 2003 14:26:45 -0500, Branden Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > On Mon, Oct 20, 2003 at 12:35:04AM +0200, Josip Rodin wrote: >> On Sun, Oct 19, 2003 at 03:58:19PM -0500, Steve Greenland wrote: >> > I've yet to see a technical argument for allowing debian/rules to >> > be a non-ma

Re: Package which uses jam (instead make)

2003-10-21 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Tue, 21 Oct 2003 16:58:55 +0200, Josip Rodin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > On Mon, Oct 20, 2003 at 09:54:13PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: >> It is documented to be a Makefile. That _is_ the interface >> definition. > Actually, we don't know that. We don't? > The original documentat

Re: Package which uses jam (instead make)

2003-10-21 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Tue, 21 Oct 2003 17:00:17 +0200, Josip Rodin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > On Sat, Oct 18, 2003 at 07:55:00PM -0500, John Goerzen wrote: >> If you do not stick to the documented interfaces, you lose the >> ability in my eyes to express outrage when the interfaces you use >> change. > Except one

Re: Bug#88029: Package which uses jam (instead make)

2003-10-21 Thread Branden Robinson
On Mon, Oct 20, 2003 at 12:35:04AM +0200, Josip Rodin wrote: > On Sun, Oct 19, 2003 at 03:58:19PM -0500, Steve Greenland wrote: > > I've yet to see a technical argument for allowing debian/rules to be a > > non-makefile. > > I've yet to see a technical argument for disallowing debian/rules from be