Re: Question regarding policy (11.2)

2003-02-08 Thread Jamin W. Collins
On Sat, Feb 08, 2003 at 07:15:52PM -0500, Joey Hess wrote: > Adding 1100 additional packages to debian, and 800 mb[1] additional to > be downloaded every apt update is unambiguously bloat. It also goes > rather against the originally stated rationalle of saving on download > time. And it wouldn't

Re: Question regarding policy (11.2)

2003-02-08 Thread Joey Hess
Joey Hess wrote: > Jamin W. Collins wrote: > > Would moving the static libraries to separate packages increase the > > number of package in Debian, certainly. Would this be "bloat", I don't > > see it as such. To consider this as bloat is to consider the choice of > > editors available in Debian

Re: Question regarding policy (11.2)

2003-02-08 Thread Joey Hess
Jamin W. Collins wrote: > Would moving the static libraries to separate packages increase the > number of package in Debian, certainly. Would this be "bloat", I don't > see it as such. To consider this as bloat is to consider the choice of > editors available in Debian (~100+ according to a quick

Re: shared libraries policy

2003-02-08 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Feb 08, Bill Allombert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> - libraries can contain short sections of non-PIC code on architectures >> which allow this [i386 is OK, any other?] if this allows a >> significant speed increase. > >This should be expended to cover the case of assembly files/ __asm

Re: Question regarding policy (11.2)

2003-02-08 Thread Bill Allombert
James Troup writes: > Bill Allombert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > For the record, I *need* static libraries. > > Why? I need some programs I built to run on my different accounts on machines running a lot of different GNU/Linux distributions, Debian, Redhat, Mandrake, etc... with even seve

Re: shared libraries policy

2003-02-08 Thread Bill Allombert
Marco d'Itri wrote: > I think that policy needs two small corrections to reflect current > practices wrt shared libraries and PIC code: > > - what is PIC library needs to be correctly defined: compiling with > -fPIC is not enough to have PIC code, the object MUST NOT have a > TEXTREL section

Re: Question regarding policy (11.2)

2003-02-08 Thread Jamin W. Collins
On Sat, Feb 08, 2003 at 10:57:27AM -0800, Brian Nelson wrote: > Josip Rodin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > On Fri, Feb 07, 2003 at 10:22:38PM -0800, Brian Nelson wrote: > >> Jamin W. Collins wrote: > >> > Why not move the static libraries to their own package, as someone > >> > else previously

Re: Question regarding policy (11.2)

2003-02-08 Thread Brian Nelson
Josip Rodin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Fri, Feb 07, 2003 at 10:22:38PM -0800, Brian Nelson wrote: >> Jamin W. Collins wrote: >> > Why not move the static libraries to their own package, as someone >> > else previously suggested? This would still allow those that want >> > them to have them

Re: Joining Maintainer and Uploader filed in a single Maintainers Field

2003-02-08 Thread Luca - De Whiskey's - De Vitis
On Sun, Feb 09, 2003 at 02:43:30AM +1100, Steve Kowalik wrote: > At 2:20 am, Sunday, February 9 2003, Luca - De Whiskey's - De Vitis mumbled: > I personally think in cases such as alsa-driver and libc6, where you have > the list and all the people who upload the package on one line would be > was

Re: Joining Maintainer and Uploader filed in a single Maintainers Field

2003-02-08 Thread Steve Kowalik
At 2:20 am, Sunday, February 9 2003, Luca - De Whiskey's - De Vitis mumbled: > I simply wuold like to know your opinion about the subject. > IMHO this would be a nice idea: it would give uploaders more visibility, hence > more satisfaction (afterall they are maintainers too). > I thought that if

Joining Maintainer and Uploader filed in a single Maintainers Field

2003-02-08 Thread Luca - De Whiskey's - De Vitis
Hi all, I simply wuold like to know your opinion about the subject. IMHO this would be a nice idea: it would give uploaders more visibility, hence more satisfaction (afterall they are maintainers too). I thought that if we want to speak of collaborative maintainership, there should not be differenc

Re: Question regarding policy (11.2)

2003-02-08 Thread Josip Rodin
On Fri, Feb 07, 2003 at 10:22:38PM -0800, Brian Nelson wrote: > > Why not move the static libraries to their own package, as someone > > else previously suggested? This would still allow those that want > > them to have them and those that don't to avoid them. > > It would bloat the Packages file

shared libraries policy

2003-02-08 Thread Marco d'Itri
I think that policy needs two small corrections to reflect current practices wrt shared libraries and PIC code: - what is PIC library needs to be correctly defined: compiling with -fPIC is not enough to have PIC code, the object MUST NOT have a TEXTREL section either [any other symbols need to

Re: Question regarding policy (11.2)

2003-02-08 Thread Brian Nelson
"Jamin W. Collins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Fri, Feb 07, 2003 at 02:49:33PM -0800, Brian Nelson wrote: > >> Note that, looking at the aspell package, I don't think it has >> included the static library in years, if ever, but no bug report has >> ever been filed. Likewise, I would expect t