Re: Working on debian developer's reference and "best packaging practices"

2002-05-09 Thread Anthony Towns
-project Bcc'ed only. On Thu, May 09, 2002 at 11:17:28PM +0100, Julian Gilbey wrote: > On Fri, May 10, 2002 at 04:02:47AM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: > > On Mon, May 06, 2002 at 06:19:54PM +0100, Julian Gilbey wrote: > > > > > Then each section could either have the structure: > > > > > or we coul

Re: Working on debian developer's reference and "best packaging practices"

2002-05-09 Thread Steve Greenland
On 09-May-02, 13:02 (CDT), Anthony Towns wrote: > RFCs have a different goal to -policy. RFCs specify things that get > implemented by different groups and have to be interoperable. -policy > doesn't. Debian packages get built by several hundred different people and have to make consistent choic

Re: Working on debian developer's reference and "best packaging practices"

2002-05-09 Thread Julian Gilbey
On Fri, May 10, 2002 at 03:48:28AM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: > On Mon, May 06, 2002 at 06:11:46PM +0100, Julian Gilbey wrote: > > On Fri, May 03, 2002 at 08:02:50PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: > > > I'm concerned about this because when I tried passing over > > > "release-critical policy issues"

Re: Working on debian developer's reference and "best packaging practices"

2002-05-09 Thread Julian Gilbey
On Fri, May 10, 2002 at 04:02:47AM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: > On Mon, May 06, 2002 at 06:19:54PM +0100, Julian Gilbey wrote: > > > > Then each section could either have the structure: > > > > Policy dictate s > > > > Discussion, useful information, guidelines, examples > > > > or we could me

Re: Working on debian developer's reference and "best packaging practices"

2002-05-09 Thread Steve Greenland
On 09-May-02, 12:48 (CDT), Anthony Towns wrote: > On Mon, May 06, 2002 at 06:11:46PM +0100, Julian Gilbey wrote: > > My suggestion for a > > policy rewrite it to move to the standard RFC uses of MUST and SHOULD, > > and indication RC-ness in an orthogonal way. > > In short, this isn't going to h

Re: The Serious severity

2002-05-09 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Anthony Towns wrote: > I can assure you I had a lot less time to do stuff like fiddle with the > BTS when I was trying to get potato released. And I can assure you I was doing a lot more work on new things while still working on the potato release than I am doing now. Wichert. -- _

Bug#146023: suggested patch against policy, documenting "libexec", or current custom on use of "lib" for binaries in lib* packages

2002-05-09 Thread Josip Rodin
On Tue, May 07, 2002 at 01:12:27AM +0900, Junichi Uekawa wrote: > + If your package has some run-time support programs that > + are required by the shared library, or some unversioned plugin > + .so files, that may be part of the shared library package. > + However,

Re: Working on debian developer's reference and "best packaging practices"

2002-05-09 Thread Anthony Towns
On Mon, May 06, 2002 at 05:19:09PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > >>"Anthony" == Anthony Towns writes: > Anthony> The real question is whether maintainers are meant to build > Anthony> using the features of dpkg, or the ones listed in > *Sigh*. Let me see if I can dot the i's and cross t

Re: The Serious severity

2002-05-09 Thread Anthony Towns
On Thu, May 09, 2002 at 08:02:04PM +0200, Wichert Akkerman wrote: > Previously Anthony Towns wrote: > > On Mon, May 06, 2002 at 07:17:12PM +0200, Marcus Brinkmann wrote: > > > Debian development is asynchronous. > > That's a nice idea in theory. > It just to be true before we had testing. I can as

Re: Working on debian developer's reference and "best packaging practices"

2002-05-09 Thread Anthony Towns
On Mon, May 06, 2002 at 06:11:46PM +0100, Julian Gilbey wrote: > On Fri, May 03, 2002 at 08:02:50PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: > > If the dpkg authors would like to hand off some of their design decisions > > to -policy on a generalised basis, I'm sure they'd say so. It seems a bit, > > well, wron

Re: Working on debian developer's reference and "best packaging practices"

2002-05-09 Thread Anthony Towns
On Mon, May 06, 2002 at 06:19:54PM +0100, Julian Gilbey wrote: > > > Then each section could either have the structure: > > > Policy dictate s > > > Discussion, useful information, guidelines, examples > > > or we could merge them, and have policy dictates all in the form MUST, > > > SHOULD, MA

Re: The Serious severity

2002-05-09 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Anthony Towns wrote: > On Mon, May 06, 2002 at 07:17:12PM +0200, Marcus Brinkmann wrote: > > Debian development is asynchronous. > > That's a nice idea in theory. It just to be true before we had testing. Wichert. --

Re: Working on debian developer's reference and "best packaging practices"

2002-05-09 Thread Anthony Towns
On Mon, May 06, 2002 at 06:11:46PM +0100, Julian Gilbey wrote: > On Fri, May 03, 2002 at 08:02:50PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: > > I'm concerned about this because when I tried passing over > > "release-critical policy issues" to the policy group, it didn't work. [..] > Strawman (to quote lots of

Re: Bug#146023: suggested patch against policy, documenting "libexec", or current custom on use of "lib" for binaries in lib* packages

2002-05-09 Thread Anthony Towns
On Mon, May 06, 2002 at 05:41:20PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > >>"Junichi" == Junichi Uekawa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Junichi> I think this was discussed enough in -devel already, but > Junichi> some good points about /libexec was given. I've noticed > Junichi> that some known good pr

Re: init.d scripts and LSB

2002-05-09 Thread Anthony Towns
On Tue, May 07, 2002 at 01:57:51PM +0200, Marcus Brinkmann wrote: > > No, the purpose of the LSB is to provide a standard ABI and API for > > applications to link and program against, whether or not the > > underlying system has the Linux kernel or not. > It has a strange name for that purpose. Is

Re: The Serious severity

2002-05-09 Thread Anthony Towns
On Mon, May 06, 2002 at 07:17:12PM +0200, Marcus Brinkmann wrote: > On Tue, May 07, 2002 at 12:12:16AM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: > > On Sat, May 04, 2002 at 10:08:51AM -0400, Marcus Brinkmann wrote: > > > I don't care about now, I care about the next release, or the release > > > after that. > >

Re: init.d scripts and LSB

2002-05-09 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Thu, 09 May 2002, David Pashley wrote: > follow LSB, I would like to suggest that we add the status option for init.d > scripts to policy. I would very useful to find out if a daemon is running That's for post-woody. Please wait. -- "One disk to rule them all, One disk to find them. One d

Re: init.d scripts and LSB

2002-05-09 Thread David Pashley
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Monday 06 May 2002 4:16 am, Craig Small wrote: > Hello, > I have got bug #138251 which talks about the init.d script and how it > is missing some nices things etc. > > Should Debian scripts be following the LSB and if so, why doesn't the > policy