Re: Working on debian developer's reference and "best packaging practices"

2002-05-03 Thread Luca - De Whiskey's - De Vitis
On Fri, May 03, 2002 at 02:13:41PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > Luca> At last we need a document that tells maintainers how to build > Luca> a dpkg package from source, assuming both to be Debian policy > Luca> compliant (since we choose dpkg as our official packaging > Luca> tool). Such a

Re: Working on debian developer's reference and "best packaging practices"

2002-05-03 Thread Julian Gilbey
On Thu, May 02, 2002 at 03:20:45PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > >>"Julian" == Julian Gilbey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Julian> On Thu, May 02, 2002 at 02:30:34PM +0200, Wichert Akkerman wrote: > >> > >> Refer to a dpkg reference instead and document extra restrictions > > Julian> Su

Re: Working on debian developer's reference and "best packaging practices"

2002-05-03 Thread Adam Heath
On Fri, 3 May 2002, Anthony Towns wrote: > This is rather non-sensical: all packages /are/ left to the whimsy of > the dpkg developers. If you don't believe me, I'm sure Wichert or Adam > will be happy to introduce some random bugs in dpkg 1.10.x to demonstrate. Just say the word, and we'd be hap

Re: Working on debian developer's reference and "best packaging practices"

2002-05-03 Thread Manoj Srivastava
>>""Luca" == "Luca <- De Whiskey's - De Vitis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> writes: Luca> The dpkg reference should describe what is a dpkg package and Luca> its internals: As well as any new or optional input or output, and actions not required for packaging (dpkg-deb -x details do not need

Re: The Serious severity

2002-05-03 Thread Grant Bowman
OK, I'll bite. * Anthony Towns [020503 08:38]: > On Thu, May 02, 2002 at 07:15:09PM -0400, Joey Hess wrote: > > Seems to me that if bug severity is orthagonal to release criticality > > People keep saying that, but it's not true [0]. I think you and Joey are saying the same thing if you read h

[luca@debian.org: Re: Working on debian developer's reference and "best packaging practices"]

2002-05-03 Thread Luca - De Whiskey's - De Vitis
Hi all, As someone other pointed out, the discussion on -project about the rewrite/improvement of the developer's references was changing topic into a policy related discussion: so I'm here to forward my proposal. I want to say that no one better than a new maintainer (I'm only one

Re: The Serious severity

2002-05-03 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
On Fri, May 03, 2002 at 09:32:25AM -0700, Grant Bowman wrote: > * Marcus Brinkmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [020503 09:21]: > > On Fri, May 03, 2002 at 08:16:32PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: > > > There may be subtle differences between the meanings of the various > > > terms, but they are *very* strong

Re: The Serious severity

2002-05-03 Thread Grant Bowman
* Marcus Brinkmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [020503 09:21]: > On Fri, May 03, 2002 at 08:16:32PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: > > There may be subtle differences between the meanings of the various > > terms, but they are *very* strongly correlated, which is right at the > > other extreme from orthogonal

Re: The Serious severity

2002-05-03 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
On Fri, May 03, 2002 at 08:16:32PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: > On Thu, May 02, 2002 at 07:15:09PM -0400, Joey Hess wrote: > > Seems to me that if bug severity is orthagonal to release criticality > > People keep saying that, but it's not true [0]. "Release critical bugs" > are those that are ser

[OT] oh dear [was Re: The Serious severity]

2002-05-03 Thread Richard Smedley
Anthony Towns wrote: > ``BAM! Science triumphs again!'' > -- http://www.angryflower.com/vegeta.gif You know I really wish I hadn't looked at that straight after lunch (even though it was all vegetable matter :-) - Richard /me gets back to work and vows never to follow

Re: Working on debian developer's reference and "best packaging practices"

2002-05-03 Thread Anthony Towns
On Thu, May 02, 2002 at 10:09:11AM +0100, Julian Gilbey wrote: > Part I: The Debian Archive > 1: DFSG and the sections of the archive (free, non-free, contrib, non-us) "Components" is a much better word to use here. (And is the word used everywhere but -policy, just ab

Re: Working on debian developer's reference and "best packaging practices"

2002-05-03 Thread Anthony Towns
On Thu, May 02, 2002 at 02:59:36PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > >>"Julian" == Julian Gilbey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Julian> People *used* to make that complaint. And if we now move to having a > Julian> lean policy standards document and a developers reference and a best > Julian> pro

Re: The Serious severity

2002-05-03 Thread Anthony Towns
On Thu, May 02, 2002 at 07:15:09PM -0400, Joey Hess wrote: > Seems to me that if bug severity is orthagonal to release criticality People keep saying that, but it's not true [0]. "Release critical bugs" are those that are serious, grave or critical. "Bugs that will stop the release of that package

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Re: Working on debian developer's reference and "best packaging practices"

2002-05-03 Thread Anthony Towns
On Thu, May 02, 2002 at 03:20:45PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > >>"Julian" == Julian Gilbey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Julian> Surely either everything necessary should be in the dpkg reference or > Julian> everything necessary should be in policy. q > On the other hand, all packages

Re: Working on debian developer's reference and "best packaging practices"

2002-05-03 Thread Anthony Towns
Is there any reason for this thread to still be on -project? It's entirely about rewriting debian-policy now, isn't it? On Thu, May 02, 2002 at 03:32:11PM +0200, Wichert Akkerman wrote: > > So if the dpkg reference doesn't document everything that Debian needs > > in this respect, what is the best

Re: Working on debian developer's reference and "best packaging practices"

2002-05-03 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Grant Bowman wrote: > This is somewhat an aside, but this is already moving away from > GNU/Debian Linux specific through several ports of GNU/Debian. There > are the hurd, bsd and win32/cygwin ports already. I have never been able to find patches for the win32/cygwin port though. I kn

Re: Working on debian developer's reference and "best packaging practices"

2002-05-03 Thread Grant Bowman
* Wichert Akkerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [020502 09:54]: > Previously Julian Gilbey wrote: > > I understand that dpkg can be used elsewhere than Debian, but > > it's de facto purpose is to serve as the Debian packaging system. > > I'm somewhat interested in having dpkg accepted in other environments

Re: Working on debian developer's reference and "best packaging practices"

2002-05-03 Thread Manoj Srivastava
>>"Wichert" == Wichert Akkerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Wichert> I do hope you trust is to make changes sensibly. In fact the current Wichert> reference draft already has some information on the backward and Wichert> forward compatibility guarantees dpkg gives. Oh,, absolutely. But