Re: Finishing the FHS transition

2001-05-06 Thread Anthony Towns
On Sun, May 06, 2001 at 09:27:59PM +0200, Adrian Bunk wrote: > Policy says: > In the source package's `Standards-Version' control field, you must > specify the most recent version number of this policy document with > which your package complies. The current version number is 3.5.4.

Bug#96597: native packages should be required to contain changelogs

2001-05-06 Thread Sam Hartman
package: debian-policy severity: normal I'm looking at section 13.8 in the current policy. It seems that section requires non-native packages to install the debian changelog but suggests with an at-most should that native packages do so. I believe that policy should require with a must native pa

Re: Finishing the FHS transition

2001-05-06 Thread Chris Waters
On Sun, May 06, 2001 at 06:29:05PM -0400, Joey Hess wrote: > Chris Waters wrote: > > > - A change in the policy to remove the obsolete /usr/doc symlinks. > > This is supposed to happen once enough packages make the transition. > No, it is supposed to happen one release _after_ a release in which

Re: Finishing the FHS transition

2001-05-06 Thread Chris Waters
On Sun, May 06, 2001 at 09:27:59PM +0200, Adrian Bunk wrote: > On Sun, 6 May 2001, Chris Waters wrote: > > Didn't we already have this discussion? The Standards-Version field > > is not a reliable indication of much of anything. I strongly object > Policy says: "Policy says" doesn't make the p

Bug#91257: re-proposing this

2001-05-06 Thread Sam TH
On Sun, May 06, 2001 at 03:08:54AM -0400, Matt Zimmerman wrote: > On Sun, May 06, 2001 at 01:45:28AM -0500, Sam TH wrote: > > > On Sun, May 06, 2001 at 12:46:04AM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: > > > > > fonts shipped, such as their license information). If one > > >

Re: Finishing the FHS transition

2001-05-06 Thread Martin Michlmayr
* Adrian Bunk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [20010506 21:27]: > See above: I want to file a RC bug either because > a) the package follows a too old policy or For the /usr/doc problem, bugs with severity: normal have already been filed by doogie and joeyh. For these packages, you simply have t

Re: Finishing the FHS transition

2001-05-06 Thread Joey Hess
Chris Waters wrote: > > - A change in the policy to remove the obsolete /usr/doc symlinks. > > This is supposed to happen once enough packages make the transition. No, it is supposed to happen one release _after_ a release in which all the packages have made the transition. So sarge at the earlie

Re: Finishing the FHS transition

2001-05-06 Thread Steve Greenland
On 06-May-01, 14:27 (CDT), Adrian Bunk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Policy says: > > <-- snip --> > > In the source package's `Standards-Version' control field, you must > specify the most recent version number of this policy document with > which your package complies. The curren

Bug#66023: PROPOSAL] Re: Shared libs vs. plugins.

2001-05-06 Thread Richard Braakman
On Sun, May 06, 2001 at 04:53:12PM +0200, Josip Rodin wrote: > Yes, but if I amend the proposal like this, then it needs to be seconded all > over again, doesn't it? I don't see why. You need two seconds to go from "proposal" to "amendment". To go from "amendment" to "accepted", you need consen

Re: Finishing the FHS transition

2001-05-06 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
On Sun, May 06, 2001 at 09:27:59PM +0200, Adrian Bunk wrote: > Policy says: > > <-- snip --> > > In the source package's `Standards-Version' control field, you must > specify the most recent version number of this policy document with > which your package complies. The current v

Re: Finishing the FHS transition

2001-05-06 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
On Sun, May 06, 2001 at 07:31:43PM +0200, Adrian Bunk wrote: > If noone has a good argument against this I'll send > RC bugs in one week to force the upgrade of the Standards-Version. The packages inetutils, gnumach, hurd and mig are only applicable to the Hurd, and we have not determined yet

menu and FHS (was Re: Finishing the FHS transition)

2001-05-06 Thread Chris Waters
On Sun, May 06, 2001 at 09:13:26PM +0200, Arthur Korn wrote: > /usr/lib/menu is not shareable Yes, it is. There's a reason why each entry starts: ?package() Anyway, that's not really relevent -- /usr/share is for architecture-independent static files. The FHS doesn't grant exceptions for fi

Re: Finishing the FHS transition

2001-05-06 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Sun, 6 May 2001, Chris Waters wrote: > > I want to suggest to finish the FHS transition. This includes the > > following steps: > > > - Packages with Standards-Version >= 3.0 must follow the FHS. > > Didn't we already have this discussion? The Standards-Version field > is not a reliable indica

Re: Finishing the FHS transition

2001-05-06 Thread Arthur Korn
Chris Waters schrieb: > (Plus, as a side issue, by a strict reading of the FHS, we should be > using /usr/share/menu rather than /usr/lib/menu, which means RC bugs > against nearly every package in the system!) :-) /usr/lib/menu is not shareable, since it would be most confusing to have a menu it

Re: Finishing the FHS transition

2001-05-06 Thread Chris Waters
On Sun, May 06, 2001 at 07:31:43PM +0200, Adrian Bunk wrote: > I want to suggest to finish the FHS transition. This includes the > following steps: > - Packages with Standards-Version >= 3.0 must follow the FHS. Didn't we already have this discussion? The Standards-Version field is not a reliab

Re: Finishing the FHS transition

2001-05-06 Thread Oliver Elphick
Adrian Bunk wrote: ... >Oliver Elphick ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) libpgsql This package is obsolete and should not be included in any release. -- Oliver Elphick[EMAIL PROTECTED] Isle of Wight http://www.lfix.co.uk/oliver PGP: 102

Finishing the FHS transition

2001-05-06 Thread Adrian Bunk
Hi, I want to suggest to finish the FHS transition. This includes the following steps: - Packages with Standards-Version >= 3.0 must follow the FHS. Policy version 3.0.0.0 was released 30 Jun 1999 and I consider this enough time for every maintainer to switch to at least this Standards-Vers

Bug#91257: re-proposing this

2001-05-06 Thread Branden Robinson
On Sun, May 06, 2001 at 01:45:28AM -0500, Sam TH wrote: > Why should packages that require a particular font package for > operation (and indeed normally require that package to be installed on > the local system AND the remote system) not depend on their font > packages? Why did you not read the

Bug#66023: PROPOSAL] Re: Shared libs vs. plugins.

2001-05-06 Thread Josip Rodin
On Sun, May 06, 2001 at 05:41:44PM +0300, Richard Braakman wrote: > On Sun, May 06, 2001 at 01:22:50PM +0200, Josip Rodin wrote: > > I would prefer to let this rest until the initial amendment is in Policy, > > since it's not very easy to get seconds and this amendment is already > > overdue. > >

Bug#66023: PROPOSAL] Re: Shared libs vs. plugins.

2001-05-06 Thread Richard Braakman
On Sun, May 06, 2001 at 01:22:50PM +0200, Josip Rodin wrote: > I would prefer to let this rest until the initial amendment is in Policy, > since it's not very easy to get seconds and this amendment is already > overdue. Surely it's possible to change a proposed amendment before it is accepted? Th

Re: Bug#94827: tktable; Build-Depends: debhelper

2001-05-06 Thread Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho
On 20010502T202937-0400, Joey Hess wrote: > Nah, I know how to munge things to produce its brand of ar files. :-) That does not address my point. (Anyway, I can only see a policy "should" supporting my view, so...) -- %%% Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho % [EMAIL PROTECTED] % http://www.iki.fi/gaia/ %%%

Bug#66023: PROPOSAL] Re: Shared libs vs. plugins.

2001-05-06 Thread Josip Rodin
retitle 66023 [AMENDMENT 06/05/2001] Treat plugins and shared libraries differently thanks Four developers have seconded this proposal, so according to "3.3 Creating an Amendment" of policy-process document, this proposal is an amendment. I'm not sure about the date, the document says "[AMENDMEN

Processed: Re: Bug#66023: PROPOSAL] Re: Shared libs vs. plugins.

2001-05-06 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
Processing commands for [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > retitle 66023 [AMENDMENT 06/05/2001] Treat plugins and shared libraries > differently Bug#66023: [PROPOSAL] Treat plugins and shared libraries differently Changed Bug title. > thanks Stopping processing here. Please contact me if you need assistance.

Re: Bug#91257: re-proposing this

2001-05-06 Thread Seth Arnold
* Anthony Towns [010506 00:05]: > Seconded, with the proviso that I reserve the right to later be > disagreeable about some of the "musts"... AJ, I don't think anyone would ever expect you to give up being disagreeable about "must"s. :) Actually, we might be rather disappointed or disillusioned.

Bug#91257: re-proposing this

2001-05-06 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Sun, May 06, 2001 at 01:45:28AM -0500, Sam TH wrote: > On Sun, May 06, 2001 at 12:46:04AM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: > > > fonts shipped, such as their license information). If one > > or more of the fonts so packaged are necessary for proper > >

Bug#91257: re-proposing this

2001-05-06 Thread Anthony Towns
On Sun, May 06, 2001 at 12:46:04AM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: > I am re-proposing this. The only change is the following two paragraphs: > > Fonts of any type supported by the X Window System must be > be in a separate binary package from any execut

Tasks policy

2001-05-06 Thread Anthony Towns
(Cc'ed to debian-boot) (First in porbably a series of policy changes needed for woody...) So, here's the deal. We need to get a proper policy for tasks fairly soon. tasksel in sid supports a "Task:" header for packages so we can be a little more flexible than having every task- depend on everyth

Bug#91257: re-proposing this

2001-05-06 Thread Sam TH
On Sun, May 06, 2001 at 12:46:04AM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: > fonts shipped, such as their license information). If one > or more of the fonts so packaged are necessary for proper > operation of the package with which they are associated the >

Processed: damnit

2001-05-06 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
Processing commands for [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > severity 91252 normal Bug#91252: [AMENDMENT 2001-05-06] enhanced x-terminal-emulator policy, second try Severity set to `normal'. > thanks Stopping processing here. Please contact me if you need assistance. Darren Benham (administrator, Debian Bugs

Processed: 91252 becoming an amendment

2001-05-06 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
Processing commands for [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > close 91252 Bug#91252: [PROPOSED] enhanced x-terminal-emulator policy, second try Bug closed, send any further explanations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Branden Robinson) > reopen 91252 Bug#91252: [PROPOSED] enhanced x-terminal-emulator policy, second try Bu

Processed: re-proposing this

2001-05-06 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
Processing commands for [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > close 91257 Bug#91257: [PROPOSED] changes to X font policy Bug closed, send any further explanations to Branden Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > reopen 91257 Bug#91257: [PROPOSED] changes to X font policy Bug reopened, originator not changed. > thanks

Bug#91257: re-proposing this

2001-05-06 Thread Branden Robinson
close 91257 reopen 91257 thanks I am re-proposing this. The only change is the following two paragraphs: Fonts of any type supported by the X Window System must be be in a separate binary package from any executables, libraries, or doc

Bug#91252: PROPOSED] enhanced x-terminal-emulator policy, second try

2001-05-06 Thread Anthony Towns
On Sun, Mar 25, 2001 at 02:22:54AM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: > --- policy.sgml Sun Mar 25 01:34:33 2001 > +++ policy.sgml.x-terminal-emulator Sun Mar 25 02:17:56 2001 > @@ -5976,13 +5976,31 @@ > > > Packages that provide a terminal emulator for the X > - Window S

91252 becoming an amendment

2001-05-06 Thread Branden Robinson
close 91252 reopen 91252 retitle 91252 [AMENDMENT 2001-05-06] enhanced x-terminal-emulator policy, second try thanks Per these seconds: Julian Gilbey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Anthony Towns <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I am marking this proposal as a formal amendment, and s