Re: seeking resolution to issues I have raised

2001-02-27 Thread Josip Rodin
On Wed, Feb 28, 2001 at 12:56:38AM +, Julian Gilbey wrote: > > > there is a mixmatch proposal in the BTS, it needs to be ack'ed by the > > > policy > > > group and applied. > > > > Yes, I know the number offhand, it's #66023. :| > > Reading through the bug report, no clear agreement was reac

Re: seeking resolution to issues I have raised

2001-02-27 Thread Julian Gilbey
On Tue, Feb 27, 2001 at 09:46:08PM +0100, Josip Rodin wrote: > > there is a mixmatch proposal in the BTS, it needs to be ack'ed by the policy > > group and applied. > > Yes, I know the number offhand, it's #66023. :| Reading through the bug report, no clear agreement was reached due to various ex

Re: seeking resolution to issues I have raised

2001-02-27 Thread Santiago Vila
On Tue, 27 Feb 2001, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote: > There has not been a consensus on several issues I have raised here: > > what to do about cross-compiler directories? Do they belong in /usr/${arch}? I think they do. GCC explains how to build a cross-compiler, and it says /usr/local/${arch}, so

Re: seeking resolution to issues I have raised

2001-02-27 Thread Brian May
> "Gordon" == Gordon Sadler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Gordon> Clarification here. Since libtool is Priority: Gordon> optional... shouldn't packages that use it Build-depend on Gordon> it? If so you can use that to determine libtool was used, Gordon> therefore .la files should

Re: seeking resolution to issues I have raised

2001-02-27 Thread Sam TH
On Tue, Feb 27, 2001 at 09:40:58PM +, Colin Watson wrote: > Gordon Sadler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >On Tue, Feb 27, 2001 at 10:21:44AM -0800, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote: > >> libtool .la files, how can lintian handle this well? > > > >Clarification here. Since libtool is Priority: optional..

Re: seeking resolution to issues I have raised

2001-02-27 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
>> > Clarification here. Since libtool is Priority: optional... shouldn't > packages that use it Build-depend on it? If so you can use that to > determine libtool was used, therefore .la files should be shipped as > well? interesting ..

Re: seeking resolution to issues I have raised

2001-02-27 Thread Colin Watson
Gordon Sadler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >On Tue, Feb 27, 2001 at 10:21:44AM -0800, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote: >> libtool .la files, how can lintian handle this well? > >Clarification here. Since libtool is Priority: optional... shouldn't >packages that use it Build-depend on it? If so you can use

Re: seeking resolution to issues I have raised

2001-02-27 Thread Gordon Sadler
On Tue, Feb 27, 2001 at 10:21:44AM -0800, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote: > There has not been a consensus on several issues I have raised here: > > what to do about cross-compiler directories? Do they belong in /usr/${arch}? > > what to do about shared objects that are not meant to be linked against

Re: seeking resolution to issues I have raised

2001-02-27 Thread Josip Rodin
On Tue, Feb 27, 2001 at 12:36:46PM -0800, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote: > >> what to do about shared objects that are not meant to be linked against, > >> i.e. > >> plugins? > > > > If a .so is not meant to be linked against and is not in a directory for > > shared libraries (e.g. the linker path), i

Re: seeking resolution to issues I have raised

2001-02-27 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 27-Feb-2001 Josip Rodin wrote: > On Tue, Feb 27, 2001 at 10:21:44AM -0800, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote: >> what to do about shared objects that are not meant to be linked against, >> i.e. >> plugins? > > If a .so is not meant to be linked against and is not in a directory for > shared libraries

Re: seeking resolution to issues I have raised

2001-02-27 Thread Josip Rodin
On Tue, Feb 27, 2001 at 10:21:44AM -0800, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote: > what to do about shared objects that are not meant to be linked against, i.e. > plugins? If a .so is not meant to be linked against and is not in a directory for shared libraries (e.g. the linker path), it's not a shared librar

seeking resolution to issues I have raised

2001-02-27 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
There has not been a consensus on several issues I have raised here: what to do about cross-compiler directories? Do they belong in /usr/${arch}? what to do about shared objects that are not meant to be linked against, i.e. plugins? libtool .la files, how can lintian handle this well? also, I

Processed: amendment has 2 m's not 3 ;p

2001-02-27 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
Processing commands for [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > retitle 76868 [AMENDMENT 2001-02-27] invoke-rc.d interface to invoke > initscripts Bug#76868: [AMMENDMENT 2001-02-27] invoke-rc.d interface to invoke initscripts Changed Bug title. > -- Stopping processing here. Please contact me if you need assistan

Re: only release packages that have maintainers?

2001-02-27 Thread Josip Rodin
On Tue, Feb 20, 2001 at 10:20:36PM +0100, Adrian Bunk wrote: > > If something has been abandoned for a 1 year and a half, you don't > > think it's crufty? > > Not automatically. Just as it can't be stated expressly that the packages are abandoned, it can't be stated that they are not abandoned. I

Processed: proposal has three seconds, changing bug title and severity

2001-02-27 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
Processing commands for [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > retitle 76868 [AMMENDMENT 2001-02-27] invoke-rc.d interface to invoke > initscripts Bug#76868: [PROPOSED] invoke-rc.d interface to invoke initscripts Changed Bug title. > severity 76868 normal Bug#76868: [AMMENDMENT 2001-02-27] invoke-rc.d interface t

Bug#76868: final revision of policy diff, and related scripts

2001-02-27 Thread hmh
This is the final "spellchecked" version of the policy diff. The invoke-rc.d scripts are available in http://people.debian.org/~hmh/ (I think someone might want to test the file-rc one a bit more, it was NOT tested as much as the sysvinit one). If there are no objections, this ammendment should

Processed: Retitle proposal

2001-02-27 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
Processing commands for [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > retitle 72335 [ACCEPTED 31/10/2000] Optional build-arch and build-indep > targets for debian/rules Bug#72335: [PROPOSED] Optional build-arch and build-indep targets for debian/rules Changed Bug title. > severity 72335 normal Bug#72335: [ACCEPTED 31/1

Bug#72335: PROPOSED] Optional build-arch and build-indep targets for debian/rules

2001-02-27 Thread Julian Gilbey
One small correction to the patch provided: The Build-Depends and Build-Conflicts fields apply to the targets - build, binary, binary-arch - and binary-indep. + build, build-arch, binary, + binary-arch and bina

Policy rewrite: chaps 3-6

2001-02-27 Thread Julian Gilbey
Well, I've now gone through the whole of policy making notes and comments, but rather than write a hugely long email, I'm going to write a few shorter ones and spread them out over a few weeks so that people have a chance to digest the material. Again, I am only going to talk about major things, a

Re: should vs must

2001-02-27 Thread Julian Gilbey
On Tue, Feb 27, 2001 at 10:45:32AM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: > If a guideline has exceptions, then they should be documented in policy. > There are MUST guidelines that'll have exceptions too (such as where > djbdns packages will put their files, for example). > > There aren't any exceptions for

Re: should vs must

2001-02-27 Thread Julian Gilbey
On Tue, Feb 27, 2001 at 10:53:59AM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: > One possibility would be to add an extra stage for policy amendments, > something like [BLOCKED], which a proposal can be placed into if it's > objected to, but the objectors and proposers agree that the objection > would be solved if

Bug#87828: [PROPOSAL] Deprecate confusing Build-Depends arch syntax

2001-02-27 Thread Julian Gilbey
Package: debian-policy Version: 3.5.2.0 Severity: wishlist I would like to deprecate one very confusing part of the Build-Depends et al syntax. Currently, policy says (section 7.1): All fields that specify build-time relationships (`Build-Depends', `Build-Depends-Indep', `Build-Conflic