Re: Preparing Debian for using capabilities: file ownership.

2000-09-20 Thread Nicolás Lichtmaier
> Nicolás> That's because root will be just another user, with its set of > Nicolás> capabilities, and you may like to prevent him from altering > Nicolás> system files. > > Nicolás> As this is a major change, we'd better start now. This will > Nicolás> also help people who want to implement

Re: New packaging manual draft

2000-09-20 Thread Manoj Srivastava
>>"Joey" == Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Joey> But my point is that this is an implementation detail. I can Joey> envision systems that have no point of return, and can always Joey> be rolled back (think journaling filesystems). I guess I do not agree. At this point, the detai

Re: Preparing Debian for using capabilities: file ownership.

2000-09-20 Thread Manoj Srivastava
>>"Nicolás" == Nicolás Lichtmaier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Nicolás> That's because root will be just another user, with its set of Nicolás> capabilities, and you may like to prevent him from altering Nicolás> system files. Nicolás> As this is a major change, we'd better start now. This wi

Re: New packaging manual draft

2000-09-20 Thread Jason Gunthorpe
On Wed, 20 Sep 2000, Joey Hess wrote: > I don't know about the actual code, but that's what the packaging manual > says and I've never actually seen anyone wrap eg, a depends line (though > I have a few I'd like to wrap..) I have, long ago, and I think I've encouraged people to do it.. Can't

Preparing Debian for using capabilities: file ownership.

2000-09-20 Thread Nicolás Lichtmaier
It seems that in order to take full advantage of capabilities, files should not be owned by root. Files should be owned by a non-login user (e.g. bin). Currently: -rwxr-xr-x1 root root42300 jul 29 13:26 /bin/ls* It should be: -rwxr-xr-x1 bin bin 42300 jul 29

Re: New packaging manual draft

2000-09-20 Thread Joey Hess
Jason Gunthorpe wrote: > > We're not really that different. The rfc allows any line to be wrapped, > > we do not. > > Erm, I'd consider any parser which does not allow this to be broken.. I don't know about the actual code, but that's what the packaging manual says and I've never actually seen an

Re: New packaging manual draft

2000-09-20 Thread Jason Gunthorpe
On Wed, 20 Sep 2000, Joey Hess wrote: > > Joey> think you should point to that RFC in that section BTW, even > > Joey> though control file format varies from it in several ways. > > > > Color me puzzled. If we are so different from teh RFC, why > > should we mention it? > > We're not rea

Re: New packaging manual draft

2000-09-20 Thread Joey Hess
Manoj Srivastava wrote: > Joey> the line. Horizontal whitespace (spaces and tabs) may occur before or > Joey> after the value and is ignored there; it is conventional to put a > Joey> single space after the colon. > > Joey> Is the space before the colon truely optional? I expect > Joey>

Re: New packaging manual draft

2000-09-20 Thread Jason Gunthorpe
On 19 Sep 2000, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > I have put an initial draft of the new package related policy > manual on http://master.debian.org/%7Esrivasta/new-packaging.txt. I > have tried to trim tis down to include only stuff I think ought to be AFIAK this is an error: All but `Pre

Re: New packaging manual draft

2000-09-20 Thread Manoj Srivastava
>>"Zed" == Zed Pobre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Zed> I think the confusion lies in the "Horizontal whitespace" line; Zed> whitespace before the colon is certainly whitespace before the value. Zed> To make it clearer, perhaps it should read "may occur immediately Zed> before or after the v

Re: New packaging manual draft

2000-09-20 Thread Manoj Srivastava
>>"Joey" == Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Joey> I've seen some typos and typographical errors but I won't Joey> bother to detail them at this point. I have now run the manual thriguh ispell, so things should be better. A new version resides, as usual, at the location: http://m

missing link to package creator FAQ

2000-09-20 Thread bboett
Hello, i am trying to package a program, wnet over the policy, tryed deb-make didn't found all the info i searched 8means comprehensible examples ot copy of...) searched for the FAQ and the HOWTO it seamed ot me that they exist somewhere, would be nice if the links where included in the policy

Re: New packaging manual draft

2000-09-20 Thread Joey Hess
I've seen some typos and typographical errors but I won't bother to detail them at this point. Each paragraph is a series of fields and values; each field consists of a name, followed by a colon and the value. It ends at the end of the line. Horizontal whitespace (spaces and tabs)