Bug#39299: PROPOSAL] permit/require use of bz2 for source packages

1999-06-10 Thread Edward Betts
On policy, Chris Lawrence <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Therefore, I propose that we permit the use of bzip2 to compress > source package files (.orig.tar and .diff for most packages, .tar for > native packages). I further propose that the use of bzip2 be > mandatory for newly uploaded source files

Bug#39299: PROPOSAL] permit/require use of bz2 for source packages

1999-06-10 Thread Joseph Carter
On Thu, Jun 10, 1999 at 02:02:35PM -0500, Chris Lawrence wrote: > Package: debian-policy > Version: 2.5.1.0 > Severity: normal > > A recent report on the debian-cd list indicates that space on the > potato source CDs is very tight (around 10 MB of slack). We are > virtually certain to exceed this

Bug#39299: PROPOSAL] permit/require use of bz2 for source packages

1999-06-10 Thread Chris Lawrence
On Jun 10, Marcelo E. Magallon wrote: > On Thu, Jun 10, 1999 at 02:02:35PM -0500, Chris Lawrence wrote: > > > I further propose that the use of bzip2 be mandatory for newly uploaded > > source files > > Upstream doesn't always provide .tar.bz2 packages. (zcat upstream.orig.tar.gz | bzip2 > upstr

Bug#39299: PROPOSAL] permit/require use of bz2 for source packages

1999-06-10 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
On Thu, Jun 10, 1999 at 02:02:35PM -0500, Chris Lawrence wrote: > I further propose that the use of bzip2 be mandatory for newly uploaded > source files Upstream doesn't always provide .tar.bz2 packages. Marcelo

Bug#39299: [PROPOSAL] permit/require use of bz2 for source packages

1999-06-10 Thread Chris Lawrence
Package: debian-policy Version: 2.5.1.0 Severity: normal A recent report on the debian-cd list indicates that space on the potato source CDs is very tight (around 10 MB of slack). We are virtually certain to exceed this space limitation (and thus enter the realm of needing at least 3 source discs

Re: weekly policy summary

1999-06-10 Thread Jim Lynch
Hiya :) > Date:10 Jun 1999 13:05:03 +0200 > To: Jim Lynch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > cc: debian-policy@lists.debian.org > From:"Davide G. M. Salvetti" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: weekly policy summary > > What I do think should be policy is that main (which includes non-US > f

Re: weekly policy summary

1999-06-10 Thread Edward Betts
On debian-policy, "Davide G. M. Salvetti" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Patent restriction does not imply freedom restriction: they are two > very different matters. In other words, gimp-non-free is misnamed, > and (software license permitting) it should go directly to > non-US/main, which is main

Re: weekly policy summary

1999-06-10 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi, >>"DGMS" == Davide G M Salvetti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: DGMS> * MS => Manoj Srivastava DGMS> It is controversial indeed, does this also mean we can't try and have DGMS> it decided? Proabably this is not the right forum for that. The policy process is a light weight proces

Re: weekly policy summary

1999-06-10 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi, >>"DGMS" == Davide G M Salvetti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: DGMS> But I'm really only suggesting that this behavior should be avoided at DGMS> all if possible, I don't aim to have it policy. DGMS> What I do think should be policy is that main (which includes non-US DGMS> free software) sh

Re: Making sure that policy amendments don't die

1999-06-10 Thread Adam Di Carlo
Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I have come to realize that there may be a better method of tracking > the progress of proposals in the BTS. > a) Pre discussion period, an idea is > floated, and kicked around and wishlist bug, titled [PROPOSAL] > polished for a bit >

Re: [ACCEPTED 1999/05/09] Utmp group proposal

1999-06-10 Thread Santiago Vila
On Thu, 10 Jun 1999, Wichert Akkerman wrote: > Previously Joey Hess wrote: > > Would it make sense for any packages that use the new permissions scheme > > make sure they have proper perms in the postinst? > > I think letting base-files fix the permissions and letting other > packages Depend on a

Re: weekly policy summary

1999-06-10 Thread Davide G. M. Salvetti
* MS => Manoj Srivastava MS> If only it were as simple as that. This issue has been brought up MS> on the lists, and, IIRC, it was quite controversial. It is controversial indeed, does this also mean we can't try and have it decided? DGMS> My vote is for free packages not being allowed to

Re: weekly policy summary

1999-06-10 Thread Davide G. M. Salvetti
* EB => Edward Betts EB> Gimp lacks support for GIFs and TIFFs because of pantent problems. [...] EB> How would you suggest he rectifies this problem without mentioning EB> non-free software? Just tell them not to use TIFF or GIF? Patent restriction does not imply freedom restriction: they

Re: weekly policy summary

1999-06-10 Thread Davide G. M. Salvetti
* JL => Jim Lynch JL> I'm afraid, that if it were made illegal to mention non-free JL> things in the expository-but-non-functional parts of debian JL> instalations, people might lose sight of important histories such JL> as in the above exsamp;e. You have a good point. What I was trying to e

Re: [ACCEPTED 1999/05/09] Utmp group proposal

1999-06-10 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Joey Hess wrote: > Would it make sense for any packages that use the new permissions scheme > make sure they have proper perms in the postinst? I think letting base-files fix the permissions and letting other packages Depend on a recent base-files version would be a better solution. (or

translation dictionaries

1999-06-10 Thread Roland Rosenfeld
As I wrote some days ago on debian-devel, I'm packaging "ding" a Tcl/Tk program for translating words. The program is a flexible frontend agrep/egrep which acts on some kind of translation dictionary. A translation dictionary is a file with one word or phrase per line with a separator between the t

Re: [ACCEPTED 1999/05/09] Utmp group proposal

1999-06-10 Thread Joey Hess
Miquel van Smoorenburg wrote: > But /var/log/wtmp and /var/log/lastlog don't belong to a package - how > do we make sure the permissions on those files get changed? Should > base-files take care of that ? Would it make sense for any packages that use the new permissions scheme make sure they have

Re: [ACCEPTED 1999/05/09] Utmp group proposal

1999-06-10 Thread Miquel van Smoorenburg
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Wichert Akkerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >+The files /var/run/utmp, /var/log/wtmp and >+/var/log/lastlog should be installed writeable by group >+utmp. Programs who need to modify those files should be installed >+install setgid u

Re: weekly policy summary

1999-06-10 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi, >>"DGMS" == Davide G M Salvetti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: DGMS> * MS => Manoj Srivastava MS> There is a difference between unmet suggests and depends: in the MS> former case, the packages install, and should work, in the latter MS> case the packages are broken. DGMS> Yes, I do know

Bug#38212: a couple of (very minor) typographical corrections to my proposal

1999-06-10 Thread Branden Robinson
Fixed a couple of grammatical errors and clarified the wording on the bit about pathnames. Attached is a new version of the diff, and a diff of the old version and the new one so people see that I'm not pulling anything funny. I made one change that wasn't in the scope of the original proposal.