Re: [PROPOSAL DRAFT]: editor and sensible-editor

1999-06-05 Thread Charles C. Fu
On debian-policy, Chris Waters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> The EDITOR and VISUAL variables are *NIX traditions, and are >> already supported by most well-written programs, and even many >> badly written ones. Edward Betts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Talking about the enviroment variables EDITO

Re: Bug#38902: PROPOSED] data section

1999-06-05 Thread Branden Robinson
On Sat, Jun 05, 1999 at 02:00:42PM -0700, Joey Hess wrote: > Branden Robinson wrote: > > If I understood the proposal correctly, bible-kjv and verse would both go > > into the new data section. "verse" because it's designed to work only with > > only one data file -- bible-kjv. > > That's silly.

Re: weekly policy summary, /etc/rc.boot

1999-06-05 Thread Richard Braakman
Joey Hess wrote: > Policy still suggests /etc/rc.boot instead of /etc/rcS.d (#32448) > * Proposed on 26 Jan 1999 by Brian Servis; seconded by Julian > Gilbey. > * Change policy to refer to /etc/rcS.d instead of the old > /etc/rc.boot/ > ( No packages in potato still use /etc/rc.boot

Re: FHS's /usr/share/*

1999-06-05 Thread Nicolás Lichtmaier
> I have been using /usr/share for some time now in all my packages, including > ones > that were in the slink, release. So?

weekly policy summary

1999-06-05 Thread Joey Hess
Here's what's been happening on debian-policy this week. Thanks to Julian Gilbey, every old proposal on the BTS has been added to this list. Most of them are marked "old". At least two of them seem to be consesnsuses already and appear as accepted amendments. Note: for details of the policy proce

Re: [PROPOSAL DRAFT]: editor and sensible-editor

1999-06-05 Thread Edward Betts
On debian-policy, Chris Waters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Making this policy would require modifying a *huge* number of > programs. The EDITOR and VISUAL variables are *NIX traditions, and > are already supported by most well-written programs, and even many > badly written ones. > > IOW, we sup

Bug#38902: PROPOSED] data section

1999-06-05 Thread Joey Hess
Branden Robinson wrote: > If I understood the proposal correctly, bible-kjv and verse would both go > into the new data section. "verse" because it's designed to work only with > only one data file -- bible-kjv. That's silly. 'passwd' is a program designed to work with only 1 data file, I don't t

Bug#38902: PROPOSED] data section

1999-06-05 Thread Oliver Elphick
Edward Betts wrote: >On policy, Oliver Elphick wrote: >> verse doesn't use bible-kjv-text for its source, but a compilation of >> quotes that its original author put together. It is actually a rather >> small package, with a 38Kb deb, including the verses. It's on a par >> with, say, f

Re: sensible-editor - let the user decied

1999-06-05 Thread Joey Hess
Edward Betts wrote: > The solution to that battle is to ask the user. No it's not. sensible-editor already uses $EDITOR if that is set. There's no need to ask the user, they would indicate what editor they prefer in the usual way. > Debian has a lot of programs that do the same thing. These funct

Re: [PROPOSAL DRAFT]: editor and sensible-editor

1999-06-05 Thread Joey Hess
J.H.M. Dassen wrote: > One reason that I can think of is that with $EDITOR, a program can look at > what editor the user wants, and choose command line options on the basis of > that; that doesn't work with sensible-editor. Look at sensible-editor: #!/bin/bash shopt -s execfail exec ${VISUAL:-${E

Re: Security team and NMUs

1999-06-05 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Josip Rodin wrote: > Note that the previously proposed QA policy includes much wider range > of NMU power for the security fixes, and nobody has commented negatively > on it, so... I haven't seen that so I can't comment on that... this is a sufficient minimum though though. Wichert. -

Re: FHS's /usr/share/*

1999-06-05 Thread Brian Almeida
I have been using /usr/share for some time now in all my packages, including ones that were in the slink, release. On Sat, Jun 05, 1999 at 04:31:31PM -0300, Nicolás Lichtmaier wrote: > > Could sbdy explain me why? > > Why would I need to share this static data among several machines? This > mig

FHS's /usr/share/*

1999-06-05 Thread Nicolás Lichtmaier
Could sbdy explain me why? Why would I need to share this static data among several machines? This might mave been a concern when dskspace where a problem... Think that this breaks the idea of a packaging system too. And because this breaks the idea of a packaging system (the packaging system i

Re: [PROPOSAL DRAFT]: editor and sensible-editor

1999-06-05 Thread Chris Waters
Nicolás Lichtmaier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I think we should extend policy by adding a XEDITOR variable that when > defined overrides de EDITOR var iff we are in X. Making this policy would require modifying a *huge* number of programs. The EDITOR and VISUAL variables are *NIX traditions,

Re: Security team and NMUs

1999-06-05 Thread James LewisMoss
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > On Sat, 5 Jun 1999 02:47:05 +0200, Wichert Akkerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > said: Wichert> As some people may have noted we're in the process of Wichert> creating security.debian.org, which will be a location where Wichert> security fixes are install

Re: Security team and NMUs

1999-06-05 Thread Josip Rodin
On Sat, Jun 05, 1999 at 02:47:05AM +0200, Wichert Akkerman wrote: > As some people may have noted we're in the process of creating > security.debian.org, which will be a location where security > fixes are installed as fast as possible, without having to > wait for a daily dinstall and mirror run.

Re: [PROPOSAL DRAFT]: editor and sensible-editor

1999-06-05 Thread Nicolás Lichtmaier
> sensible-editor will behave as needed by the current policy, but is > more flexible. It could start xemacs on X and zile on console or do > other additional checks. I think policy should state that programs > should use sensible-editor as their editor. I think we should extend policy by adding

Re: Security team and NMUs

1999-06-05 Thread Darren O. Benham
On Sat, Jun 05, 1999 at 02:47:05AM +0200, Wichert Akkerman wrote: > > As some people may have noted we're in the process of creating > security.debian.org, which will be a location where security > fixes are installed as fast as possible, without having to > wait for a daily dinstall and mirror r

Bug#38902: PROPOSED] data section

1999-06-05 Thread Darren O. Benham
On Fri, Jun 04, 1999 at 06:46:47PM -0400, Fabien Ninoles wrote: > > The data section would be governed by the following rules: > > - No package can depend on a package in data. > > Can *solely* depends on a package in data. ORed Depends, if > it's also resolved by a default package in main, is goo

Security team and NMUs

1999-06-05 Thread Wichert Akkerman
As some people may have noted we're in the process of creating security.debian.org, which will be a location where security fixes are installed as fast as possible, without having to wait for a daily dinstall and mirror run. To make this truely effective though the security team has to be able to