Re: Let's Debian blow...

1999-05-26 Thread Darren O. Benham
Propose this though the -policy mechanism... On Wed, May 26, 1999 at 05:37:15PM -0400, Fabien Ninoles wrote: > Although I tend to agreed with Joseph on this point, I also think that > the main problem is still the same as with the Anarchy FAQ: No other > cool place (personal web page is not the an

Re: Let's Debian blow... gracefully! [was Re: Intent to package GNU Philosophy web pages]

1999-05-26 Thread Ivan E. Moore II
On Wed, May 26, 1999 at 05:37:15PM -0400, Fabien Ninoles wrote: > The reason for a seperate directory is for ease of mirroring and CD > building. It gives us also an easy way to check if a package can be > on data. > > I will really like to see this one at least second. It's an old thread > that I

Re: pre-draft of FHS 2.1

1999-05-26 Thread James Troup
Jason Gunthorpe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Wed, 26 May 1999, Daniel Quinlan wrote: > > >/var/state is back at /var/lib, but using the /var/state > >specification. Moving the directory was unnecessary and was a > >stopping point for distributions. Tweaking the specification a >

Re: pre-draft of FHS 2.1

1999-05-26 Thread Jason Gunthorpe
On Wed, 26 May 1999, Daniel Quinlan wrote: >/var/state is back at /var/lib, but using the /var/state >specification. Moving the directory was unnecessary and was a >stopping point for distributions. Tweaking the specification a >little was okay, but moving it was evidently not.

Re: Let's Debian blow... gracefully! [was Re: Intent to package GNU Philosophy web pages]

1999-05-26 Thread shaleh
Seconded, this seems a good solution.

Let's Debian blow... gracefully! [was Re: Intent to package GNU Philosophy web pages]

1999-05-26 Thread Fabien Ninoles
Quoting Joseph Carter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Tue, May 25, 1999 at 10:35:57AM +0100, Edward Betts wrote: > > I changed the description so it does not say it is a mirror anymore: > > > > [..] > > > > Does that help at all? > > Not really, but if enough people really think I'm wrong on this I wo

pre-draft of FHS 2.1

1999-05-26 Thread Daniel Quinlan
Just in case anyone missed the pre-draft of FHS 2.1 message that was forwarded to debian-devel, here it is. It tries to address some of the problems that have been holding up adoption by Debian and other distributions. Also, if you have any proposed patches (against the troff), comments, or quest

Bug#38212: debian-policy: [PROPOSAL] rewrite of section 5.7

1999-05-26 Thread Branden Robinson
On Wed, May 26, 1999 at 11:25:19AM +0200, Santiago Vila wrote: > The fact that I am able to execute emacs or ghostscript in console mode > without xfree86-common shows that the dependency of xlib6g on > xfree86-common is not absolute, and therefore a "Depends:" field should > not be used for that.

Re: md5sum proposal

1999-05-26 Thread Joey Hess
Goswin Brederlow wrote: > It could set up hooks, as defined in my proposal on > > ftp://mirjam.informatik.uni-tuebingen.de/pub/debian/proposal.txt > > A Package can say that it will need reconfiguration every time package > foo changes. Adding wildchar support to that and you got what you > want

Re: Dead packages bugs

1999-05-26 Thread Remco Blaakmeer
On Wed, 26 May 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I agree with leaving them so later developers might choose to pick them > up and close them. But others (like libc4) should just be trashed. In that case, you might want to re-open the bugs against the ncftp package. On May 11th, the maintainer of

Re: Dead packages bugs

1999-05-26 Thread Josip Rodin
[please cc: replies to me, i'm not on -policy list] [although i don't know why this isn't on -devel instead] On Wed, May 26, 1999 at 08:57:54PM +0200, J.H.M. Dassen wrote: > > > close 9362 > > Bug#9362: gopherd: missing /etc/gopherd.conf > > Bug closed, ack sent to submitter - they'd better know

Re: Dead packages bugs

1999-05-26 Thread shaleh
> > [As an aside, please use [EMAIL PROTECTED] rather than control's > "close" command, so that submitters receive an explanation] > Does Guy's hack to dpkg-dev do this? I close most of my bugs via my changelog. > A large fraction of the "Maintainer Unknown" bug reports > (http://www.debian.org

Dead packages bugs

1999-05-26 Thread J.H.M. Dassen
On Wed, May 26, 1999 at 12:49:00 -0500, Debian Bug Tracking System wrote: > > close 9362 > Bug#9362: gopherd: missing /etc/gopherd.conf > Bug closed, ack sent to submitter - they'd better know why ! etc. [As an aside, please use [EMAIL PROTECTED] rather than control's "close" command, so that subm

md5ums: Why tripwire etc is no solution

1999-05-26 Thread Christoph Lameter
1. There is a time between the installation of the package and the run of any tool to generate checksums. Things can happen to a file in that time period. Files can even be damaged while being installed by dpkg. One example is a broken hardware writing faulty data to the HD on occasion

Re: PROPOSAL: automatic installation and configuration

1999-05-26 Thread Goswin Brederlow
Amos Shapira <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > [1 ] > From: Massimo Dal Zotto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: PROPOSAL: automatic installation and configuration > Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 00:01:57 +0200 (MEST) > > > Hi, > > > > I have done a few experiments about automatic configuration of packages >

Bug#37999: PROPOSED]: A pre-install required space checking mechanism for Debian packages

1999-05-26 Thread Goswin Brederlow
Richard Braakman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Is a pregenerated du file necessary? You already assume that you have > the package at hand, so you might as well collect size information from > the package directly. That way, you can also handle differences in block > sizes. And it means that yo

Re: md5sum proposal

1999-05-26 Thread Goswin Brederlow
Michael Stone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Tue, May 25, 1999 at 04:42:13PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > > Putting things in the packaging system so that we can be sure > > they have it in the system is really silly, seeing that we have this > > marvelous dependency mechanism. >

Re: md5sum proposal

1999-05-26 Thread Christoph Lameter
On 25 May 1999, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > I still do not see why this has anything to do with the > packaging system. If all you want is to ensure that the files on your > system have not been modified since the time you installed them (and, > frankly, I think you really really should a

Re: md5sum proposal

1999-05-26 Thread Goswin Brederlow
Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Hi, > >>"Goswin" == Goswin Brederlow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> This also has more complicated issues than just generating md5sums (find > >> | xargs will do that for you). In particular making sure your list of > >> md5sums isn't equally vu

Bug#38212: debian-policy: [PROPOSAL] rewrite of section 5.7

1999-05-26 Thread Santiago Vila
On Tue, 25 May 1999, Branden Robinson wrote: > On Tue, May 25, 1999 at 05:36:09PM +0200, Santiago Vila wrote: > > Such programs should be configured with X support, > > + and should declare a dependency on xlib6g (which > > + contains X shared libraries). Users who wish to use the >

Re: md5sum proposal

1999-05-26 Thread Michael Stone
On Tue, May 25, 1999 at 04:42:13PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > Putting things in the packaging system so that we can be sure > they have it in the system is really silly, seeing that we have this > marvelous dependency mechanism. Maybe, maybe not. How would it work as a dependency?

Re: utmp group proposal

1999-05-26 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Chris Waters wrote: > I posted an objection that I thought we should check with a security > expert to make sure there aren't any known security issues with this > idea. I don't know if that's been done, but the moment it is, my > objection will be (has been?:) withdrawn. As a member o