Re: Should -dev and -dbg libary packages depend on ${Source-Version}?

1998-11-09 Thread Richard Braakman
Ben Gertzfield wrote: > So I was thinking it'd be nice to warn developers of shared library > packages that they should have the -dev file depend with a versioned > depends on the real lib file. Either that or make the .so link point to the soname link, instead of to the actual library. Then the

Re: Should -dev and -dbg libary packages depend on ${Source-Version}?

1998-11-09 Thread Ben Gertzfield
> "Adam" == Adam Di Carlo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Adam> Well, rather than making an exemption, the point is pretty Adam> simple: Adam> If a package depends on a specific version of a -dev or Adam> lib* pacakge, that dependancy should be reflected in the Adam> control

Re: keeping a fixed bug fixed (was Re: proving a bug is gone)

1998-11-09 Thread Daniel Martin
Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Hi > >>"Raul" == Raul Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Raul> I'm not talking about a complete regression test suite here. > Raul> I'm talking about simple test cases. If the code dumps core > Raul> under some condition, reproduce the conditio

Re: keeping a fixed bug fixed (was Re: proving a bug is gone)

1998-11-09 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi >>"Raul" == Raul Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Raul> Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Writing regression tests for real is a hard, painstaking effort, >> often requiring intimate knowledge of the code, and often needs to be >> tied up with the code itself, changing as the

Re: proving a bug is gone

1998-11-09 Thread Brandon Mitchell
On 8 Nov 1998, Adam Di Carlo wrote: > >> The debian-testing group is actually working on this issue as well, > >> someone should liase with them. > > Agreed. But I'm at a loss here -- I don't see a debian-testing > > mailing list, and I don't see any testing links off of the > > developer's corn

Re: It is ok to have a hardcoded Depends: libc6-dev ?

1998-11-09 Thread Santiago Vila
On 6 Nov 1998, James Troup wrote: > What exactly is the problem with glibc2-dev providing libc6-dev? > (Apart from the fact that you find it aesthetically displeasing). The > alpha people do it and it works for them. There is not any problem with glibc2-dev providing libc6-dev. [ As I said, we wi

Re: proving a bug is gone

1998-11-09 Thread Adam Di Carlo
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Raul Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Adam Di Carlo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Raul, I really think the proof is in the pudding. If you can help >> shape a working, easy enough to manage test suite, and start >> filling that in (even, just start with base pack

keeping a fixed bug fixed (was Re: proving a bug is gone)

1998-11-09 Thread Raul Miller
Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Writing regression tests for real is a hard, painstaking effort, > often requiring intimate knowledge of the code, and often needs to be > tied up with the code itself, changing as the source changes. I'm not talking about a complete regression test

Re: proving a bug is gone

1998-11-09 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi, I have a package where I wrote a test suite. It is pkg-order. I think I spent about a fifth of the total time creating the package in writing the test suite. I don't think I could have written the tests had I not also been the author of the package. Writing regression test

Re: proving a bug is gone

1998-11-09 Thread Raul Miller
Adam Di Carlo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Raul, I really think the proof is in the pudding. If you can help > shape a working, easy enough to manage test suite, and start filling > that in (even, just start with base packages), we'll be able to look > at it from there and decide if there's a polic

Re: Should -dev and -dbg libary packages depend on ${Source-Version}?

1998-11-09 Thread Adam Di Carlo
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Ben Gertzfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: James> BTW: this isn't quite right; the source version doesn't James> necessarily match the version number of the binary packages James> (e.g. bash && libreadline). Some allowance must be made for James> this. > Ahh, so ho

Re: proving a bug is gone

1998-11-09 Thread Adam Di Carlo
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Raul Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Adam Di Carlo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Raul has suggested to add test cases to debian/rules to certify >> that a bug is gone. As much as I think our documentation should >> encourage maintainers to write test cases, I be

Re: proving a bug is gone

1998-11-09 Thread Raul Miller
Daniel Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Perhaps a "checklist" of manual tests for bugs combined with an > automated script to check for bugs that can be tested that way (Hmm - > perhaps a strongly suggested /usr/doc//bugfixlist ?) might be > an option, but really I'd just prefer to rely on maint

Re: proving a bug is gone

1998-11-09 Thread Raul Miller
Adam Di Carlo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Raul has suggested to add test cases to debian/rules to certify that > a bug is gone. As much as I think our documentation should encourage > maintainers to write test cases, I believe this puts undue stress > on package maintainers. Moreover, if we do not