Re: dpkg speed (was: Re: PROPOSAL: Extrafiles)

1998-06-06 Thread Jason Gunthorpe
On Fri, 5 Jun 1998, Joey Hess wrote: > > If I am correct, this means that dpkg only needs to rebuild the database > > from scratch if the sysadmin has edited one or more of the text files. > > This could mean a much shorter startup time for dpkg. > > Doesn't apt already use a cache database? See

Re: dpkg speed (was: Re: PROPOSAL: Extrafiles)

1998-06-06 Thread Joey Hess
Remco Blaakmeer wrote: > That's why I and several other people have proposed a cache database. The > text files will still be the authoritative source of information for dpkg. > But after dpkg has read them and built its database in memory (as it does > now), it can save this database to disk. The

Re: Proposed amendment (compiling non-free packages from source in main)

1998-06-06 Thread mdorman-debian-policy
On Sat, Jun 06, 1998 at 02:52:10PM -0700, Jim Pick wrote: > I don't know if just a plain makefile like debian/rules is enough > though. I think a more powerful approach is to use a configure-style > script to generate the debian/rules file. I'm doing this with some of > the Gnome packages. If mi

Re: Proposed amendment (compiling non-free packages from source in main)

1998-06-06 Thread Richard Braakman
Jim Pick wrote: > Here's a middle ground solution: > >Have an optional "debconfigure" script that would be run before >running dpkg-buildpackage. You would pass options to it, and it >would generate the appropriate debian/rules file. It seems more consistent with current practice to

Re: Proposal: Automatic query servicing for dpkg installation scripts

1998-06-06 Thread Joey Hess
Ian Jackson wrote: > The way I see this working is that there is only one per-host local > database, but you preload it with the information you want before you > start the installation. That way databases from other hosts and > things like that are just special kinds of preloading. Yes, that's t

Re: Proposed amendment (compiling non-free packages from source in main)

1998-06-06 Thread Jim Pick
Shaleh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > As the other half of the imlib question, let me put in my two cents. As > a developer and a free software lover I would hate to see this type of > thing. I see a fix, but am not sure if it is possible. I use > dpkg-buildpackage. Is there some way analagous

Re: Proposed amendment (compiling non-free packages from source in main)

1998-06-06 Thread Jim Pick
James Troup <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Jim Pick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Of course, in reality, none of the ports is building only the "main" > > part of the Debian - they are also building the "contrib" and > > "non-free" parts.. > > What reality are *you* living in? Not one I rec

Re: Proposed amendment (compiling non-free packages from source in main)

1998-06-06 Thread Shaleh
As the other half of the imlib question, let me put in my two cents. As a developer and a free software lover I would hate to see this type of thing. I see a fix, but am not sure if it is possible. I use dpkg-buildpackage. Is there some way analagous to "make foo" for this. We could then do "b

Re: Proposed amendment (compiling non-free packages from source in main)

1998-06-06 Thread James Troup
Jim Pick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Of course, in reality, none of the ports is building only the "main" > part of the Debian - they are also building the "contrib" and > "non-free" parts.. What reality are *you* living in? Not one I recognize. I know that several (of the tiny numbers of the

Re: Proposed amendment (compiling non-free packages from source in main)

1998-06-06 Thread aqy6633
> * must be manually compilable using only packages from within >"main". It is permissible to have source packages which are >also configured to produce binary packages that are not to >be installed in "main", and which require tools from outside >of "main" to

Proposed amendment (compiling non-free packages from source in main)

1998-06-06 Thread Jim Pick
Hello, I was going to over gdk-imlib from Shaleh so I can release Gnome 0.20, and I encountered this policy issue. (Shaleh may be keeping gdk-imlib now) One of the outstanding bugs is #22096, where James Troup complains that gdk-imlib depends on a non-free library to build (giflib, for the non-