Re: Conflicts between developers and policy

1998-04-30 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
On Thu, Apr 30, 1998 at 06:36:37PM -0400, Dale Scheetz wrote: > On Thu, 30 Apr 1998, Marcus Brinkmann wrote: > > While I agree with much of what you say about the need for policy to be > clear, I will continue to urge caution when being dictatorial about > policy. > > I only disagree with Manoj's

Re: Conflicts between developers and policy

1998-04-30 Thread Dale Scheetz
On Thu, 30 Apr 1998, Marcus Brinkmann wrote: > On Thu, Apr 30, 1998 at 04:06:44AM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > > Hi, > > >>"Philip" == Philip Hands <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > I may have over reacted to being the lone voice crying in the > > wilderness bit. > > I prefer to keep

Package modifying its conffile (was Re: X and Window Mangers)

1998-04-30 Thread Andy Mortimer
On debian-devel, Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > FWIW, 2 and 4 conflict. I think it's in policy now (or soon will be) that a > package cannot modify any conffile, even if the conffile in in the package. Oh, dear. This means that the clever bit of code I've put into svgalib will suddenly b

Re: Conflicts between developers and policy

1998-04-30 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
On Thu, Apr 30, 1998 at 04:06:44AM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > Hi, > >>"Philip" == Philip Hands <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > I may have over reacted to being the lone voice crying in the > wilderness bit. I prefer to keep away from such discussions until the air cleaned up a bit, b

Re: Conflicts between developers and policy

1998-04-30 Thread James Troup
Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Well, it was gfetting frustating, what with being in the middle of > two conversations, one with Dale and James, who are of the opinion > that policy is a guideline, and not a set of rules adopted by the > project Again, please don't misrepresent my

Re: first proposal for a new maintainer policy

1998-04-30 Thread James Troup
Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > OK. I give. And, on the principle that if you can't beat 'em, join > 'em, I now agree with Jame Troup and Dale Scheetz and formally > declare that Policy does not govern may packages from this point on, > and shall close any policy related Bugs ASAP.

Re: Conflicts between developers and policy

1998-04-30 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi, >>"Philip" == Philip Hands <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Philip> Manoj, Was my previous mail really that annoying ? If so, I Philip> apologise profusely (I was fairly tired at the time I wrote Philip> it, so may have started to be rather more argumentative that I Philip> meant to be) W

Re: Conflicts between developers and policy

1998-04-30 Thread Philip Hands
Manoj, Was my previous mail really that annoying ? If so, I apologise profusely (I was fairly tired at the time I wrote it, so may have started to be rather more argumentative that I meant to be) I think we actually hold fairly similar opinions about this subject. Did you ever see my previou

Re: Conflicts between developers and policy

1998-04-30 Thread Raul Miller
Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Again, this happens not to be the case. I was perfectly happy > letting policy be policy until a well respected senior Debian > developer made statements to the effect "Go right ahead and > violate policy. Thats what I do" > > And anoth

Re: first proposal for a new maintainer policy

1998-04-30 Thread Raul Miller
Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > OK. I give. And, on the principle that if you can't beat 'em, > join 'em, I now agree with Jame Troup and Dale Scheetz and formally > declare that Policy does not govern may packages from this point on, > and shall close any policy related Bugs

Re: first proposal for a new maintainer policy

1998-04-30 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi, >>"Philip" == Philip Hands <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Philip> 2) this is going way off topic, and has been quite tedious for Philip> some time. OK. I give. And, on the principle that if you can't beat 'em, join 'em, I now agree with Jame Troup and Dale Scheetz and formally declare

Re: first proposal for a new maintainer policy

1998-04-30 Thread Philip Hands
On 29 Apr 1998, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > Hi, > >>"Dale" == Dale Scheetz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Dale> The Policy Statement is a set of rules for the behavior of > Dale> developers, set down by the "ruling body", sometimes referred to > Dale> as "the government". When those rules are view