Re: Stripping ELF .note and .comment sections?

1998-03-20 Thread Martin Schulze
On Fri, Mar 20, 1998 at 11:20:36PM +0200, Topi Miettinen wrote: > Shaleh writes: > > Before you register bugs, how about updating the build apps to do this. > > Then new packages are correct and only old ones get bug reports. > > Relax, I'm not going to submit any bug reports. If this becomes pol

Re: Stripping ELF .note and .comment sections?

1998-03-20 Thread Shaleh
Before you register bugs, how about updating the build apps to do this. Then new packages are correct and only old ones get bug reports. --- How can you see, when your mind is not open? How can you think, when your eyes are closed? - Jason Bonham Band,

Re: need input: essential packages and pre-depends

1998-03-20 Thread Santiago Vila
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On Fri, 20 Mar 1998, Ian Jackson wrote: > Santiago Vila writes ("Re: need input: essential packages and pre-depends"): > ... > > For example, if diff is essential, it should Pre-Depends on libc6, because > > otherwise maintainer scripts which use it would fail.

Re: csh-considered-harmful is a lintian warning??

1998-03-20 Thread Richard Braakman
Herbert Xu wrote: > Surely this kind of religious zeal should not be reflected in lintian. I have no particular opinion about the use of csh for scripts, and I hope to stay out of the actual policy discussion. But since I'm the one who wrote the actual csh-considered-harmful check for linti

Re: Proposal how to handle mass bug reports

1998-03-20 Thread Richard Braakman
Ian Jackson wrote: > Santiago Vila writes ("Re: Proposal how to handle mass bug reports"): > ... > > Mmm, well, what if I sent just one bug against ftp.debian.org saying > > "these 100 packages should not have `optional' priority but `extra'"? > > > > I would say your proposed policy is incomplete

Re: PW#5-16: Use of /usr/src

1998-03-20 Thread Ian Jackson
Dale: you're the libc maintainer - are you following this discussion ? The fundamental problem here is that Manoj wants kernel-headers-* for development of weirdo programs which require particular kernel headers to compile. I don't think this is something that many people will need - after all, t

Re: Bug#19920: Packages Optional, should be Extra

1998-03-20 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi, >>"Anand" == Anand Kumria <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Anand> On Thu, 19 Mar 1998, Marcus Brinkmann wrote: >> On Thu, Mar 19, 1998 at 06:02:54PM +, Ian Jackson wrote: I >> think we should indeed have such a new priority level. I like the >> label `preferred'. Anand> Another possibility co

Re: Proposal how to handle mass bug reports

1998-03-20 Thread Ian Jackson
Santiago Vila writes ("Re: Proposal how to handle mass bug reports"): ... > Mmm, requiring a lot of action for a lot of packages has not to be > discussed also? This is also a problem, not only getting rid of the bug > themselves, because people may disagree very easily. By sending my bug report I

Re: need input: essential packages and pre-depends

1998-03-20 Thread Ian Jackson
Santiago Vila writes ("Re: need input: essential packages and pre-depends"): ... > For example, if diff is essential, it should Pre-Depends on libc6, because > otherwise maintainer scripts which use it would fail. Right? Yes. But if diff3 uses a different library, that wouldn't need a Pre-Depends

Re: Bug#19920: Packages Optional, should be Extra

1998-03-20 Thread Anand Kumria
On Thu, 19 Mar 1998, Marcus Brinkmann wrote: > On Thu, Mar 19, 1998 at 06:02:54PM +, Ian Jackson wrote: > > I think we should indeed have such a new priority level. I like the > > label `preferred'. Another possibility could be `recommended'. > > This should include the `best example' of ev

Re: PW#5-16: Use of /usr/src

1998-03-20 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi, >>"Ian" == Ian Jackson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Ian> Manoj Srivastava writes ("Re: PW#5-16: Use of /usr/src"): ... >> Umm, no. The kernel-* package maintainers use kernel-package, which >> produces (and has produced, in the past) the packages >> kernel-{headers,source,doc,image}-. There is

Re: need input: essential packages and pre-depends

1998-03-20 Thread Santiago Vila
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On Fri, 20 Mar 1998, Ian Jackson wrote: > I'm sorry, what precise policy change is being proposed ? > > It is currently policy that Essential packages have to use Pre-Depends > for things which they need to support the packaging system. They > should use Depen

Re: Proposal how to handle mass bug reports

1998-03-20 Thread Santiago Vila
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On Fri, 20 Mar 1998, Ian Jackson wrote: > Santiago Vila writes ("Re: Proposal how to handle mass bug reports"): > ... > > Mmm, well, what if I sent just one bug against ftp.debian.org saying > > "these 100 packages should not have `optional' priority but `extra'

Re: need input: essential packages and pre-depends

1998-03-20 Thread Ian Jackson
Christian Schwarz writes ("Re: need input: essential packages and pre-depends"): > On Wed, 11 Mar 1998, Jason Gunthorpe wrote: > > On Wed, 11 Mar 1998, Christian Schwarz wrote: > > > Recall, that there was a discussion on this topic between Feb 9 and Feb > > > 18, with subject line "awk: essential

Re: Proposal how to handle mass bug reports

1998-03-20 Thread Ian Jackson
Christian Schwarz writes ("Re: Proposal how to handle mass bug reports"): ... > You're proposal (at least, something very similar) is already policy. The > `Debian Developer's Reference' reads: [...] Ah. My new phrasing is somewhat stronger, and covers any kind of bulk mail (the current policy on

Re: Proposal how to handle mass bug reports

1998-03-20 Thread Ian Jackson
Santiago Vila writes ("Re: Proposal how to handle mass bug reports"): ... > Mmm, well, what if I sent just one bug against ftp.debian.org saying > "these 100 packages should not have `optional' priority but `extra'"? > > I would say your proposed policy is incomplete. I would add the following > p

Re: PW#5-16: Use of /usr/src

1998-03-20 Thread Ian Jackson
Manoj Srivastava writes ("Re: PW#5-16: Use of /usr/src"): ... > Umm, no. The kernel-* package maintainers use kernel-package, > which produces (and has produced, in the past) the packages > kernel-{headers,source,doc,image}-. There is no interaction > required between the two sets of maint

Re: Dealing with bugs fixed in non-maintainer releases (was Re: List of bugs that *must* be fixed before releasing Hamm)

1998-03-20 Thread Joey Hess
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > No objections here. However, I think we must agree on how to handle the bug > reports; the situation is like this: > - Non-maintainer releases should not close bug reports > - We don't have a "Severity: fixed" yet. There's really no problem for a lot of them, becuase the

Re: Proposal how to handle mass bug reports

1998-03-20 Thread Brian White
> > > Noone may submit many bug reports or send mail to many maintainers > > > without prior approval for the specific person in question to send > > > mail under those specific circumstances. > > > > approval from whom? > > Several people already have "mass mailer" scripts (bcwhite, Christian,

Re: HAMM FREEZE (removed packages)

1998-03-20 Thread Brian White
> > Non maintainer releases do not close bugs. However, a non maintainer > > release that *just* fixes a bug because a bad building environment > > (buggy debstd, in this case) should probably be able to close such > > bugs. What do others think about this? > > Just downgrade the severity of the

Re: Proposal how to handle mass bug reports (was: Re: Bug Terrorism?

1998-03-20 Thread Brian White
> 1) The bug server takes care of reminding maintainers that have packages >with old unattended bugs. Everyone knows that there are old bugs open. >There is no need to send reminders without additional information specific >to the bug. Therefore, sending reminders to a bunch of old bu

Re: What's the status coexistance between egcs and gcc packages?

1998-03-20 Thread Scott K. Ellis
On 19 Mar 1998, Rob Browning wrote: > The changelog for egcc claims it's now the standard for Debian. Is > that true? I'm asking because I need it here for other projects, and > I want to know how that can/should interact with building my Debian > packges. > > Is it OK to compile Debian package

Re: Supporting upstream .tar.bz2

1998-03-20 Thread Anthony Fok
On Thu, Mar 19, 1998 at 04:49:17PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I see more and more software being offered in .tar.bz2 format (e.g. kernel, > egcs), which appears to be a lot more space efficient for source code. > > I'd like to request that our policy wrt sources be extended to accept > .tar

What's the status coexistance between egcs and gcc packages?

1998-03-20 Thread Rob Browning
(I had a hard time deciding if this was -devel or -policy material.) The changelog for egcc claims it's now the standard for Debian. Is that true? I'm asking because I need it here for other projects, and I want to know how that can/should interact with building my Debian packges. Is it OK to