Re: Non-Session-Manager

2020-04-30 Thread rosea.grammostola
On 4/30/20 11:19 AM, rosea.grammostola wrote: Anyway, someone made a other GUI for NSM, it also uses the nsmd server API, so sessions are 100% compatible with the ones made in the default NSM GUI. That will be a more easy candidate to package it in Debian: https://laborejo.org/argodejo/ S

Re: Non-Session-Manager

2020-04-30 Thread rosea.grammostola
pstream developer is less responsive lately. For more skilled people in this realm there are certainly some options here though, especially if you decide to only package non-session-manager (NSM). It might then be best to split of the non-session-manager in it's own repo and make it build wit

Re: Non-Session-Manager

2020-04-29 Thread rosea.grammostola
Hi, I came to the conclusion that I'm not able to get this project done, also because upstream developer is less responsive lately. For more skilled people in this realm there are certainly some options here though, especially if you decide to only package non-session-manager (NSM).

Re: Non-Session-Manager

2020-03-08 Thread rosea.grammostola
On 3/7/20 11:30 PM, IOhannes m zmölnig (Debian/GNU) wrote: what really turns*me* away from non, is the use of WAF as the buildsystem. quote from upstream developer: "There was an issue a while I ago that I fixed related to how unique the shipped WAF binary is. I think it should be in a goo

Re: Non-Session-Manager

2020-03-08 Thread rosea.grammostola
here's a couple of packages that are part of the default Ubuntu Studio installation) - that, because Ubuntu Studio already has a similar package (RaySession) in the default installation, Non-Session-Manager will not be part of the default Ubuntu Studio installation? (again: fine; nobody as

Re: Non-Session-Manager

2020-03-08 Thread rosea.grammostola
On 3/7/20 11:30 PM, IOhannes m zmölnig (Debian/GNU) wrote: also, the only tags upstream did in their repository, is about 3 years ago, so their hint that we can get tarballs from github is pretty useless. (unless we consider that the software was dormant in the last years). Yes, less active in

Re: Non-Session-Manager

2020-03-07 Thread Debian/GNU
the default Ubuntu Studio installation) - that, because Ubuntu Studio already has a similar package (RaySession) in the default installation, Non-Session-Manager will not be part of the default Ubuntu Studio installation? (again: fine; nobody asked for that) - that Non-Session-Manager will never be

Re: Non-Session-Manager

2020-03-07 Thread Debian/GNU
On 3/7/20 11:19 PM, rosea.grammostola wrote: >> https://github.com/original-male/non > thanks, but how is one to find that from the homepage? (in theory, that could just be some impostor). also, the only tags upstream did in their repository, is about 3 years ago, so their hint that we can get ta

Re: Non-Session-Manager

2020-03-07 Thread rosea.grammostola
On 3/7/20 11:17 PM, IOhannes m zmölnig (Debian/GNU) wrote: On 3/6/20 9:00 PM, rosea.grammostola wrote: /"You can get a tarball from a tag on github. true, and this is what many projects i maintain for Debian do. but how does github relate to packaging non-*? their homepage does not seem to

Re: Non-Session-Manager

2020-03-07 Thread Debian/GNU
On 3/6/20 9:00 PM, rosea.grammostola wrote: > > /"You can get a tarball from a tag on github. true, and this is what many projects i maintain for Debian do. but how does github relate to packaging non-*? their homepage does not seem to mention that they are using github in any way, instead the

Re: Non-Session-Manager

2020-03-07 Thread Ross Gammon
Hi Rosea, On 06/03/2020 21:54, rosea.grammostola wrote: > > Does someone wants to package NSM without NTK, but with purely FLTK for > Debian? > > > I've good contacts with upstream developer, so I'm able to help to get > things clear for packaging, like I proved already with the quote above ;)

Re: Non-Session-Manager

2020-03-06 Thread rosea.grammostola
On 06-03-2020 21:00, rosea.grammostola wrote: I asked if it would be a idea to package NSM without the non-toolkit first, so with FLTK: /"Totally reasonable. Again, I'm 99% sure that NSM's GUI doesn't use any NTK specific features or controls."/ This would mean that 'we' would package NSM

Re: Non-Session-Manager

2020-03-06 Thread rosea.grammostola
Got some replies from upstream dev /"You can get a tarball from a tag on github. Plus, I thought all packagers have been doing things straight from git (no tarballs) for like half a decade now. I can't remember the last time I touched a tarball..."/ On 06-03-2020 19:07, Ross Gammon wrote:

Re: Non-Session-Manager

2020-03-06 Thread rosea.grammostola
On 06-03-2020 19:17, Ross Gammon wrote: Sorry - I forgot to add. Such a complicated package might not be a good idea for you first package. There are plenty of other Debian Multimedia packages that need some love. You could start with an easier one, and come back to non-* later. Thanks Ross,

Re: Non-Session-Manager

2020-03-06 Thread Ross Gammon
Hi Rosea, On 06/03/2020 19:07, Ross Gammon wrote: > > When learning packaging in Debian, I highly recommend using Debian Mentors: > https://mentors.debian.net/intro-maintainers > On the Mentors mailing list, you will find many kind people willing to > help answers those silly beginner questions.

Re: Non-Session-Manager

2020-03-06 Thread Ross Gammon
Hi Rosea, I looked at helping Jaromir package NTK a long time ago, and looked at packaging the non-* applications more recently. KX-Studio have managed to package them. But now that Erich has packaged Raysession in Ubuntu, I am not in so much of a hurry. I think Jonas is right. It is not impossib

Re: Non-Session-Manager

2020-03-06 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Quoting rosea.grammostola (2020-03-06 16:56:52) > I absolutely can't imagine that NSM can't get it into Debian. I'm > determined to proof if. Any help to help me proof it would be > appreciated. ;) I agree it sounds quite odd if NSM cannot be packaged for Debian. I am already overloaded with pr

Re: Non-Session-Manager

2020-03-06 Thread erich
Hi rosea, On Fri, 2020-03-06 at 16:42 +0100, rosea.grammostola wrote: > Hi, > > Thanks for your reply. I'll contact the main developer about this > and > report back. > > On 06-03-2020 16:27, eeickme...@ubuntu.com wrote: > > In Ubuntu, I have packaged and included RaySession, which is > > compl

Re: Non-Session-Manager

2020-03-06 Thread rosea.grammostola
On 06-03-2020 16:49, er...@ericheickmeyer.com wrote: API compatible does not mean session compatible. It means that it interacts with applications that are NSM ready. It's not meant to load sessions from NSM. That's the misconception. I've heard the objections, but unless the Non-* developers m

Re: Non-Session-Manager

2020-03-06 Thread rosea.grammostola
Hi, Thanks for your reply. I'll contact the main developer about this and report back. On 06-03-2020 16:27, eeickme...@ubuntu.com wrote: In Ubuntu, I have packaged and included RaySession, which is completely API compatible with NSM and uses Qt as opposed to NTK. You can see it at https://la

Re: Non-Session-Manager

2020-03-06 Thread eeickmeyer
Hi rosea, I hate to say this, but you're probably going to get nothing but complete silence on this one. I have tried to package Non-Session-Manager, but the source code is done in a way that is incompatible with Debian packaging. They don't release source tarballs for their releases

Re: Non-Session-Manager

2020-03-06 Thread rosea.grammostola
Let's turn it around. Is there someone who can help me with packaging Non-Session-Manager for Debian? My knowledge is lacking and certainly not up-to-date. http://non.tuxfamily.org/wiki/Non%20Session%20Manager First question: do I need a Debian install for this, or can I use Ubuntu

Re: Non-Session-Manager

2020-02-28 Thread rosea.grammostola
to package this non-session-manager? > > Would be a great addition to the audio packages in Debian. > > The bugreport is here: > > https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=950923 > > Regards, > > \r > > > On 08-02-2020 10:58, rosea.grammostola wro

Re: Non-Session-Manager

2020-02-28 Thread rosea.grammostola
Hi all, Someone who wants to package this non-session-manager? Would be a great addition to the audio packages in Debian. The bugreport is here: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=950923 Regards, \r On 08-02-2020 10:58, rosea.grammostola wrote: > Hi, > > > The

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2020-02-08 Thread rosea.grammostola
flexibility of JACK <http://non.tuxfamily.org/wiki/JACK>. The components of Non work together and separately, allowing you create a studio tailored to your own needs. - Non-Session-Manager The Non Session Manager is an API and an (GUI) implementation for session management in the context of

Re: Non-Session-Manager

2020-02-08 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Hi Rosea, Quoting rosea.grammostola (2020-02-08 10:58:25) > The Non-Session-Manager is a important application when you want to > use audio applications on Linux to make music. The Non Session Manager > is an API and an implementation for session management. It stores and > r

Non-Session-Manager

2020-02-08 Thread rosea.grammostola
Hi, The Non-Session-Manager is a important application when you want to use audio applications on Linux to make music. The Non Session Manager is an API and an implementation for session management. It stores and restores JACK connections, applications in the session and it's state. When y