Hello,
Upstram of qtecasound has depricated libqtecasound,
and the only application which depended upon libqtecasound (qtecasound, and ecawave)
no longer need the library.
How would I handle this situation smoothly?
Any ideas?
Would I need to make an empty package of libqtecasound to ensure
Robert Bihlmeyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> immo vero scripsit
> If you want to provide further hints, upload a final version containing
> "you can remove me without ill effects" in the description.
I think I would just remove the package, since the package has
only entered unstable, and not on testin
Nikolaus Regnat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> immo vero scripsit
> I'm searching for a manual (like New Maintainers' Guide) how to craete a
> package from a libary. Is there anything like that?
As far as I know, the answer is "No", and I think we need one too.
You can see some of it in the debian-policy.
nstall `opt-downgrade --non-optimised`
> (and the script will insert the right version numbers).
Er.. sounds hacky.
Anyway, I was trying to do this kind of stuff, but I have not gone too
far. I stopped at trying to set up a buildd for athlon (I have effectively
stopped at making athlon-build
several binary versions.
I think it involves
(mkdir BUILD; cd BUILD; ../configure )
kind of thing...
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l when I can't work it out.
Don't use debhelper, or keep your debhelper compatibility level
at "2" or less, because debhelper v3 was not available in potato.
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annoying to see too many notes.
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something else I should do?
I'd recommend build depending on bison, and building it.
Having intermediate files included in the distribution is rather wrong,
and I think the preferred source format for editing is the bison
source, not the bison-generated source.
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> almost, but not quite, lintian clean; it produces one error ---
Have you considered asking the upstream to
change the license ?
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> It is not for a normal user.)
Packaging of setuid programs is very discouraged for first-time packagers.
Are you sure you want to do that ?
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stream ?
My personal feeling is that I don't like large diffs,
and Debian-specific modifications.
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> struct.h says:
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hing more than -O2 has problems on some
architectures, and it is not advisable to use anything more than
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> > o are you sending the mods to the upstream ? / have you
> > contacted the upstream ?
> Not yet.
Please do.
Reducing the -Wall warning
in debian/rules.
I think all it does is set DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS="...", unset,
and then run debuild.
But that is talking about shell.
Try testing this snippet:
muha.sh:
#!/bin/sh
echo $MUHA
and on the command-line run:
$ MUHA="fuu" muha.sh
fuu
$ MUHA="fuu" &a
.
>
> And perhaps a doc package but it would be really small.
I might be missing something, but what is the soname for
libgphoto2 ?
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/usr/lib/libgphoto.so.2.0.0 or something similar
libgphoto2-dev Package would probably contain
/usr/lib/libgphoto.so which is a symlink to
/usr/lib/libgphoto.so.2, and etc. etc. etc.
The soname is the number "2" in this case
(but I have not looked at libgphoto2 to check)
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BLE to the script ?
I've accompanied myself with a testing script to
check that behavior as well, have you tried running it?
> Can you please explain me what I'm missing ?
That's what I want to know too.
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Maybe he was just talking about shell constructs.
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e my package ok both for the former
> and the newer version of the ocaml package.
If that is the case, it should be enough to specify ocaml (>= version)
with high-enough version number (which includes the previous camlp4).
At least from the information given from your mail.
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build, and /etc/sbuild should have been
somewhere like /usr/share/sbuild/sbuild.default.conf.
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Binary package names are incorrect, name them
"lib"mowitz0 and "lib"mowitz-dev
The source package name is fine.
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;s the case, I also have doubts whether it should be
called libmowitz"0"
Are you sure of the soname version number?
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>
> And the version number of the package is 0.2.0 as well.
That sounds like a bad news, a potential sign of
upstream changing binary interface between 0.1.0 and 0.2.0
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incompatible change to the library, and call it
0.3.0 (well, it's only natural).
However, in the library sense, if it is binary-incompatible,
it should have a new soname, i.e. 1.0.0
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st sign of a changed interface are:
o random segfault
o irrational behavior
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could, however, be changes in the source
which does affect.
I don't know if there could be a systematic way to do it.
Warning might be possible, but not strict and real checking.
Lintian won't be able to do this, because lintian only has access
to one version of source at the tim
Junichi Uekawa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> cum veritate scripsit:
Well, now I updated the doc a little bit, I'll post it here.
I've received exactly one response so far, and I'm feeling a bit
naive about the contents of this document.
Please comment:
Library packaging Guide (very m
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> Ok.. so i'm working on packages for jedit .. and I'm contemplating
> splitting the documentation into its own sepperate package.
That I would object.
Splitting the docs when it doessn't have to happen, it not u
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> On Fri, 5 Apr 2002 14:42, Stefan Schwandter wrote:
> > I know that policy recommends not to use uppercase letters in package
> > names, but I'd like to package jack (jackit.sourceforge.net).
> > Unfortunately, there alre
rs don't really need to care about python-version compatibility,
do they ? Their primary aim is to write code that works for them, not
write code that works on both.
maybe I am wrong, I don't code in python (yet).
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rkings of tcl/tk, but they are
provided as shared libraries. I've got an impression
that it will cause problems.
For example, try compiling against tck/tk 8.3, and remove
8.3 and install 8.0, and then run the program.
The program should fail to start.
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a script to do that.
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Should "package" depend on exactly the
> same version of "package-data"?
Why do you have to make it a symlink at all ?
By doing that you are distributing a .deb file
which does not contain copyright information, etc.
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do with providing a symlink to usr/share/doc/package
that's a maintainer decision.
> > Don't just split without good reason.
>
> Just making sure one of the good reasons was seen in the discussion.
Trying,
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having -x version when there is -sdl version ?
(is both of them maintained in a good shape or is only one of them?)
Note: Splitting packages up causes more work, and maintenance
cost.
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(seeing that it is unmaintained) probably decay to unusability.
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ack with more questions.
Are you the upstream to the package too ?
libtool is quite useful.
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btool cc -o whatever.la whatever.lo other.lo -version-info 0:0:0 -export-dynamic
They will make the shared library links properly.
Also, use
libtool install whatever.la $(DESTDIR)/usr/lib/
libtool rm -f *~ *.lo whatever.la
etc.
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unstable, one can look at the changelogs, but is there a way to know
> which packages entered woody last week, or given a package, when it
> entered woody ?
I doubt it, but it would help if you name the # of bug.
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shared libs only?).
I'd rather have shared libs with some Debian-specific
versioning than unversioned static library because it is easier to track
bugs on them, and fix them.
However, please see my libpkg-guide.
I'm trying to collect some more information/examples
into the lis
gets released as a "stable" Debian release,
it will be stable for a long time.
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o.
I do not recommend having so many shared libraries
in one package, but this is what you get as a result
running dpkg-shlibsdeps on such package.
I don't think it will gain anything.
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e will get
> quite long. Should I keep them indefinitely?
Why? The only one required is
Conflicts: libijs-dev.
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config for you (very nice!).
I do have a few packages which auto-generates debian/control.
I am starting to think that it doesn't really scale up, however.
I'm inclined to use a "error-out-if-it-doesn't-match" approach
(d-shlibs)
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lems, since the parsing is done within debian/rules.
I don't know, but it should probably be done in debian/rules clean
target.
I'd rather use objdump -p debian/tmp/usr/lib/libwhatever.so | grep SONAME
than $(UPSTREAM_VERSION).
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radict policy.
Yeah, and that discretion of the individual maintainer has
caused enough problems that I decided to write the guide.
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> > The "x11" section is reserved for X server software, window managers
> > and such.
> >
> > This package should be in "devel".
>
> Hmm. That does seem to make more sense. But... I can't find where this is
> spelled out.
It's not really spelled out. Use of some kind of common sense,
and get
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> >
>
> auto-apt only detects "file not found" and does a look up in the file list for
> the package which owns it. It is not of much help during the package build.
It installs the package.
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> My thoughts:
> This is not my bug but a limitation of buildd. What should I do?
> Why buildd even bother to build documentation (ALL) package?
> Can anyone give me educated guide how to handle this?
My impression is t
erent file when it was compressed
at a different time.
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> Considering a given library libfoo, which of another version supporting
> multithreading is available, called libfoo-mt.
> libfoo-mt offers all the functionnalities offered by libfoo and programs
> compiling with
> I have had a similar problem and solved it by exporting a LIBRARY_PATH
> variable during the install step :
>
> replacing
>$(MAKE) install ...
> by
>export LIBRARY_PATH=`pwd`/debian/tmp/usr/lib; $(MAKE) install ...
>
> NOTE : LIBRARY_PATH not LD_LIBRARY_PATH.
>
Hmm... this hack s
le.am
Add it somewhere with libiiwusynth_la_SOURCES are defined.
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gelse.c other.c
libtarget.whatever.so: ${sources:.c=.lo}
libtarget.a: ${sources:.c=.o}
%.lo: %.c
gcc -fPIC ..
%.o: %.c
gcc
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read it, is in my sig.
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Try something like:
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> Hi,
>
> A package that I maintain -- mp3blaster -- doesn't include libsidplay1
> as a dependency, even though it links against it. I hadn't noticed that
> because I thought everything was working fine, as I hadn't tri
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> > The "average user" shouldn't be running configure with a prefix of /
> > or /usr, and so the default is what they want. /etc and /usr are
> > "owned" by dpkg, so nothing should be installed manually there.
> > Running
s.
So, any file that is in your debian diff will have no executable bit set.
It's a common mistake.
Set the executable bit in your build, or call them like:
/bin/sh some-script.
/bin/perl ...
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> linker.
What would be the point of restricting the shared libraries to
within the software ?
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hared
libs is usually only "--enable-shared=no" away...
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libraries, though most seem to access them directly dlopen().
They are different in that they are plugins.
Some just do dlopen for the sake of it, but there are
applications which are dynamically pluggable.
(like LADSPA).
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> desktops), so I'm going to believe objdump over ldd at this point.
You can try pbuilder.
It is designed to do such jobs.
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"Joel Baker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Is there a way to specify the following in a Debhelper file (such as
> .dirs or .links)?
>
> usr/include/$(SHELLVARIABLE)/foo.h
Why bother using debhelper at all ?
You can use variables in debian/rules all right.
reg
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> > You can use variables in debian/rules all right.
>
> Er. Because it's helpful? Being able to do dh_installdirs, dh_installlinks,
> dh_install (etc) and have the lists in sane files of only that is far
> easier to manag
brief description of what it is and what it does would
be a big plus.
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ades, interface compatibility can
be kept, which means interface number does not need to change.
avifile-player probably ignores that part, or changes
the library version number on every release, or whatever.
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Neil L. Roeth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> due to a compile error. I logged on to trex and attempted to build it in the
> unstable chroot. It built without error. Then I noticed that the error in
> the buildd log referred to a file /usr/include/c++/3.2/backwa
At Thu, 31 Oct 2002 06:58:00 -0500,
Neil L. Roeth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > So, gcc 2.95 is still supposed to be what s390 uses. Sounds like someone
> > has "tweaked" the s390 buildd.
>
> Who can I ask to untweak the s390 buildd, and get my package rebuilt?
>
That's not the point of the
> > > Who can I ask to untweak the s390 buildd, and get my package rebuilt?
> > >
> > That's not the point of the bug report,
> > you should fix your package to build with gcc-3.2, so
> > that the switchover may happen with less pain.
>
> I will attempt to build it with 3.2 on i386. I was a
> But the plan is to move all architectures to gcc-3.2 for sarge.
> I don't know why this hasn't happened already.
That at least requires working gcc-3.2 and hence probably working
glibc 2.3 for all arches, which has not happened yet.
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> The plan I have come up with is to put all the files it needs into a
> debian/patches directory, and alter the Makefile accordingly. This
> works just fine, although it makes the resulting .diff about twice the
> size of the original source code, and it means it need to be redone
> every time th
> Putting script libraries into /usr/lib does not break systems mounted in
> such manner, it only increases number of files that should be stored
> separately for each architecture.
Yes, I was quite wondering that too, and people tend to disagree
on that point, and some people tend to be walking
Hi,
I have a question.
There are packages which probably need to be changed the owner (or suid)
in .deb packages.
Trying to chown to a user which does not exist will obviously emit an error
like this:
dh_link
dh_strip
dh_compress
dh_fixperms
chown netsaint debian/netsaint-neat/usr/lib/cgi-bin/
> smlnj-lib : misc libs for sml
At least, I don't want binary packages to be named -lib.
If they are shared libraries, make it
libwhateverX
and read libpkg-guide.
if they are some SML libraries, name them
libsml-whatever-whatever
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> I am (have already) building a new package from the cvs tree, but my question
> is:
>
> Shall I run the autobuild (called bootstrap) on my system and go with the
> package using those results or I shall modify my debian/rules to create the
> Makefile.in and friends during compilation time?
>
>
> > Since I'm behind a 64-k ISDN line, I would like pbuilder to use cached
> > packages from /var/cache/apt/archives, if available instead of
> > unconditionally downloading all the stuff. But unfortunately,
> > /var/cache/apt/archives doesn't seem to be accessible from within the
> > chroot.
> >
> Hi.
> (A special hello to Junichi who is CCed because of his libpkg-guide.)
>
> I'm having a package that will probably use the age feature of release
> numbering. (I.e. libfoo.a.b.1 to indicate that programs linked against libfoo.a
> and libfoo.(a-1) can use it as documented in the libtool doc
> To my knowledge, Netfilter's ULOG target (and thus ipt_ULOG.h)
> appeared in kernel version 2.4.18. On neither architecture, kernel
> versions greater than 2.4.17 are available, so I guess using
> ulog-acctd on those architectures would not make much sense, anyhow.
I don't think it is intended
> I am currently preparing a NMU for libgtop2, which is broken and whose
> maintainer told me has no time to fix right now.
>
> Now, the problem was that the libgtop library moved from 0.so.0.0.1 to
> 0.so.1.0.1, and the install rules didn't catch this changes.
The normal procedure is to rename
> > The normal procedure is to rename the binary package to
> > libgtop2-1 (it should probably have been libgtop2.0-1, but
> > people seem to have their own tastes about this.)
>
> Ok, thanks for the info, and what is the procedure concerning this and
> NMUs ? Also, while this name change mean
>Commercialization of this product is prohibited without notifying the
>Department of Energy (DOE) or Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory
>(LLNL)."
>
> This seems to me to conflict with the GPL, and I'd like confirmation on
> that. I guess if it is, then the proper procedure would
> Pdsh is a high-performance, parallel remote shell utility. It has
> built-in, thread-safe clients for Berkeley and Kerberos V4 rsh, and can
> call SSH externally (though with reduced performance). Pdsh uses a
> "sliding window" parallel algorithm to conserve socket resources on the
> initiating n
> Lintian, however, can't know that this particular library usually is
> preloaded, not linked to. Hence the override.
If its use is going to be something like that, please don't put it in
/usr/lib. That's what the lintian warning is about.
regards,
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> Lintian, however, can't know that this particular library usually is
> preloaded, not linked to. Hence the override.
If its use is going to be something like that, please don't put it in
/usr/lib. That's what the lintian warning is about.
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>
> > > Is there a policy for audio apps in this regard?
> >
> > No, but there should be, probably.
>
> Since there are a lot of audio applications starting to
> hit sid, eg. jackd, ardour, etc, where would be the place to
> discuss "policy" in this regard - eg., having an audio group,
> and sui
> >
> > AFAIR, you have to change
> > CFLAGS=$(CFLAGS) ./configure [...]
> > to
> > CFLAGS="$(CFLAGS)" ./configure [...]
> > in debian/rules.
>
> Wouldn't
>
> CFLAGS += .configure [...]
>
> be a lot easier in most cases?
That's a totally different notion :P
We're trying to se
> I am responsible for the package htdig. Htdig is a full-text indexer for
> (local) sites, ie. will generate a full-text (searchable) index of that
> site.
> The thing is written in C++, and comes with loads of libraries. While
> the procedure described in the various manuals (the shlibs syste
currently seen as a bad
idea to do this on ia64. The details are not available
to me.
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en I can't work it out.
Don't use debhelper, or keep your debhelper compatibility level
at "2" or less, because debhelper v3 was not available in potato.
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annoying to see too many notes.
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ething else I should do?
I'd recommend build depending on bison, and building it.
Having intermediate files included in the distribution is rather wrong,
and I think the preferred source format for editing is the bison
source, not the bison-generated source.
regards,
junichi
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It's
> almost, but not quite, lintian clean; it produces one error ---
Have you considered asking the upstream to
change the license ?
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> It is not for a normal user.)
Packaging of setuid programs is very discouraged for first-time packagers.
Are you sure you want to do that ?
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m ?
My personal feeling is that I don't like large diffs,
and Debian-specific modifications.
regards,
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