Re: Package split/merge advice

2004-12-07 Thread Steve Kemp
On Tue, Dec 07, 2004 at 01:30:31AM -0500, Rudy Godoy wrote: > I don't want to have a package for every upstream data file which is > DFSG free. So I'm strongly considering to merge these and work that > way. I'd like to receive advices about the matter. If it were me I'd have just two packagse:

Re: Package split/merge advice

2004-12-07 Thread Frank Küster
Rudy Godoy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, I'm the maintainer of torcs[0], a car racing game. Initially > I've made four -data packages, one is the base data files, and the > others are for -tracks and -cars. Due some filled bugs I've > discovered that it needs another -cars package to have the

Re: shared libraries

2004-12-07 Thread Frank Küster
Justin Pryzby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb: > How can I modify the path to the libraries? During compilation, the > build system has to see $buildpath/iraf/lib/libfoo.so.0, but once > installed, the executables must see > /usr/lib/iraf/iraf/lib/libfoo.so.0. There are a bunch of executables, > so

Re: Package split/merge advice

2004-12-07 Thread Andreas Rottmann
Frank KÃster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > There are also disadvantages, however. Most importantly, you should only > do that if upstream always releases the data files in one go. If they > are released separately, at different times and with different version > numbers, you probably won't be happ

Re: Package split/merge advice

2004-12-07 Thread Frank Küster
Andreas Rottmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb: > Frank Küster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> There are also disadvantages, however. Most importantly, you should only >> do that if upstream always releases the data files in one go. If they >> are released separately, at different times and with di

Re: Package split/merge advice

2004-12-07 Thread Rudy Godoy
On 07/12/2004 at 04:49 Frank Küster wrote... > I didn't check how big the individual upstream data files are, but yes, > if they are rather small, you can consider creating a merged > "orig".tar.gz file from all of them. > Most of it are small, and the packages for other systems have gone from o

experimental uploads and closed bugs

2004-12-07 Thread Frank Küster
Hi, I'm quite sure I read it somewhere, but cannot currently find it: How does the archive software treat bugs that are closed in the changelog of an upload to experimental? Are the bugs tagged fixed, or is nothing done at all? Regards, Frank -- Frank Küster Inst. f. Biochemie der Univ. Zürich D

Re: shared libraries

2004-12-07 Thread martin f krafft
Either move libfoo to its own package, or tell the build tool where to look. dpkg-shlibdeps has the -l option, gcc and co. use -L. Why do you need LD_LIBRARY_PATH? are you running the binary during the build process? -- Please do not send copies of list mail to me; I read the list! .''`. m

Re: experimental uploads and closed bugs

2004-12-07 Thread Adeodato Simó
* Frank Küster [Tue, 07 Dec 2004 17:36:16 +0100]: > I'm quite sure I read it somewhere, but cannot currently find it: How > does the archive software treat bugs that are closed in the changelog of > an upload to experimental? Are the bugs tagged fixed, or is nothing done > at all? they are tagg

Re: shared libraries

2004-12-07 Thread Adeodato Simó
* martin f krafft [Tue, 07 Dec 2004 12:26:41 +0100]: > Why do you need LD_LIBRARY_PATH? are you running the binary during the > build process? in the shipped binaries, I think he meant. -- Adeodato Simó EM: asp16 [ykwim] alu.ua.es | PK: DA6AE621 Listening to: Manzanita - Talco y bronce

Re: experimental uploads and closed bugs

2004-12-07 Thread Andreas Barth
* Frank Küster ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [041207 17:40]: > I'm quite sure I read it somewhere, but cannot currently find it: How > does the archive software treat bugs that are closed in the changelog of > an upload to experimental? Are the bugs tagged fixed, or is nothing done > at all? +fixed-in-exper

Re: shared libraries

2004-12-07 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Adeodato Simó <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004.12.07.1742 +0100]: > * martin f krafft [Tue, 07 Dec 2004 12:26:41 +0100]: > > Why do you need LD_LIBRARY_PATH? are you running the binary during the > > build process? > > in the shipped binaries, I think he meant. what, rpath? noo! do

RFS: backup-manager -- Powerful and easy-to-use backup tool.

2004-12-07 Thread Alexis Sukrieh
Hello mentors. I would like to introduce the backup-manager[1] software to the Debian community. It is a shell script, written with care and which is 100% debianized (including the use of Debconf). This backup tool can generate tar, tar.gz, tar.bz2 and zip archives, upload them to remote hosts wi

Re: shared libraries

2004-12-07 Thread Justin Pryzby
On Tue, Dec 07, 2004 at 05:50:01PM +0100, martin f krafft wrote: > also sprach Adeodato Simó <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004.12.07.1742 +0100]: > > * martin f krafft [Tue, 07 Dec 2004 12:26:41 +0100]: > > > Why do you need LD_LIBRARY_PATH? are you running the binary during the > > > build process? > > >

Re: shared libraries

2004-12-07 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Justin Pryzby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004.12.07.1811 +0100]: > I think I will actually be installing them into /usr/lib/, with a > proper soname (even though the soname won't serve any purpose, as the > executables are bundled with the library). Make sure to read http://wiki.debian.net/i

Re: shared libraries

2004-12-07 Thread Frank Küster
martin f krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > also sprach Justin Pryzby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004.12.07.1811 +0100]: >> I think I will actually be installing them into /usr/lib/, with a >> proper soname (even though the soname won't serve any purpose, as the >> executables are bundled with the libr

Re: experimental uploads and closed bugs

2004-12-07 Thread Frank Küster
Andreas Barth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb: > * Frank Küster ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [041207 17:40]: >> I'm quite sure I read it somewhere, but cannot currently find it: How >> does the archive software treat bugs that are closed in the changelog of >> an upload to experimental? Are the bugs tagged fix

Re: experimental uploads and closed bugs

2004-12-07 Thread Adeodato Simó
* Frank Küster [Tue, 07 Dec 2004 19:38:21 +0100]: > > +fixed-in-experimental for maintainer-uploads > > +fixed for NMUs > Thank for giving me the fish, also to Adeoato. Will you also teach me > how to catch it? well, I know just for having seen it. -- Adeodato Simó EM: a

Re: experimental uploads and closed bugs

2004-12-07 Thread Stephen Gran
This one time, at band camp, Frank Küster said: > Andreas Barth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb: > > > * Frank Küster ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [041207 17:40]: > >> I'm quite sure I read it somewhere, but cannot currently find it: How > >> does the archive software treat bugs that are closed in the changelo

Re: shared libraries

2004-12-07 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Frank Küster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004.12.07.1937 +0100]: > As I understood it, this is exactly the situation Justin is in. Also read the LD_LIBRARY_PATH document. Instead of setting LD_LIBRARY_PATH, I'd rather suggest calling the linker directly. -- Please do not send copies of list

Re: RFS: backup-manager -- Powerful and easy-to-use backup tool.

2004-12-07 Thread Philipp Meier
On Tue, Dec 07, 2004 at 06:12:34PM +0100, Alexis Sukrieh wrote: > This backup tool can generate tar, tar.gz, tar.bz2 and zip archives, > upload them to remote hosts with scp or ftp and burn them to CDR/CDRW > media using mkisofs and cdrecord. I'm no DD so I cannot sponsor the package. But I looke

Re: substitution variables

2004-12-07 Thread Nico Golde
Hello Matthew, * Matthew Palmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004-12-07 11:55]: > On Mon, Dec 06, 2004 at 03:31:02PM +0100, Nico Golde wrote: > > Hi, > > dh_make genererated control files which usually include something > > like this: > > Depends: ${shlibs:Depends},${misc:Depends} > > Can someone explain

Re: Winmodems in debian

2004-12-07 Thread Nico Golde
hi, * Justin Pryzby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004-12-06 20:07]: > On Mon, Dec 06, 2004 at 07:26:58PM +0100, Frank Küster wrote: > > Andrew Zajac <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb: > > > > > The scanmodem script. > > > http://linmodems.technion.ac.il/packages/scanModem.gz > > > > > > I have emailed the maint

RFS: elizatalk simple chatbot for IM

2004-12-07 Thread Nico Golde
Hi, i search a sponsor for my new package elizatalk. My regular sponsor Michael Schiansky writes his diploma at the moment so i hasn't got the time to sponsor this package. But it would be nice, if someone else would sponsor this upload. The package is linda and lintian clean: * Package name:

Re: RFS: backup-manager -- Powerful and easy-to-use backup tool.

2004-12-07 Thread Alexis Sukrieh
* Philipp Meier ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) disait : > I'm no DD so I cannot sponsor the package. But I looked at it and it > contains some bashism. I does not run with dash as /bin/sh because of > the use of "$UID" and some trap issues. Yes it does contain bashism. Moreover the uploader is written in Per

Re: RFS: backup-manager -- Powerful and easy-to-use backup tool.

2004-12-07 Thread Alec Berryman
begin quotation of Alexis Sukrieh on 2004-12-07 20:24:09 +0100: > * Philipp Meier ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) disait : > > I'm no DD so I cannot sponsor the package. But I looked at it and it > > contains some bashism. I does not run with dash as /bin/sh because of > > the use of "$UID" and some trap iss

Re: RFS: backup-manager -- Powerful and easy-to-use backup tool.

2004-12-07 Thread Alexis Sukrieh
* Alec Berryman ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) disait : > Writing a program in bash isn't; using bashisms with #!/bin/sh is, as > you can't assume /bin/sh = /bin/bash. If you want to use the > bashisms in your script, change #!/bin/sh to #!/bin/bash. Oups ! :) Sorry for my misunderstanding. I'll release a

Re: RFS: backup-manager -- Powerful and easy-to-use backup tool.

2004-12-07 Thread Alexis Sukrieh
The 0.5.5-2 package is up on my repository. It will fix the bashism in /usr/bin/backup-manager and suggests a dependence to gettext-base (which provides /usr/bin/gettext.sh). Thanks to Philipp and Alec for the comments. Regards, Alexis. -- Alexis Sukrieh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Another Lin

Re: experimental uploads and closed bugs

2004-12-07 Thread Andreas Barth
* Stephen Gran ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [041207 20:10]: > This one time, at band camp, Frank Küster said: > > Andreas Barth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb: > > > > > * Frank Küster ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [041207 17:40]: > > >> I'm quite sure I read it somewhere, but cannot currently find it: How > > >> does

Re: shared libraries

2004-12-07 Thread Michael K. Edwards
On Tue, 7 Dec 2004 17:50:01 +0100, martin f krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > what, rpath? noo! > do not hardcode the path. Could you expand on the scope of this advice? I'm in the process of repairing a broken build procedure (for a commercial app that runs on Debian) and would appreci

Re: shared libraries

2004-12-07 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Michael K. Edwards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004.12.07.2147 +0100]: > So the server core can load these shared libraries with dlopen(), get > the "factory" routines with dlsym(), With dlopen(), why care about rpath or LD_LIBRARY_PATH? Just give the full path or implement your own search pa

Re: experimental uploads and closed bugs

2004-12-07 Thread Stephen Gran
This one time, at band camp, Andreas Barth said: > * Stephen Gran ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [041207 20:10]: > > /usr/share/doc/developers-reference/developers-reference.txt.gz: > > 4.6.4: > >When uploading to unstable a package which had bugs fixed in > >experimental, please consider using the op

Re: shared libraries

2004-12-07 Thread Michael K. Edwards
On Tue, 7 Dec 2004 22:04:22 +0100, martin f krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > also sprach Michael K. Edwards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004.12.07.2147 +0100]: > > So the server core can load these shared libraries with dlopen(), get > > the "factory" routines with dlsym(), > > With dlopen(), why care

Re: shared libraries

2004-12-07 Thread Michael K. Edwards
I wrote: > ... a quick > perusal of the manpage suggests that RPATH in the loaded object has no > effect, but I think I'd better UTSL before relying on that. Note that I haven't verified whether RPATH in the loaded object has an effect on dlopen(), but it clearly does have an effect on the use of

change DESTDIR

2004-12-07 Thread Yan
Hi: I am trying to create a .deb file. If i do not change the rules, it create the correct .deb file. However, when i changed DESTDIR=/usr/tmp, it install all the stuff in /usr/tmp correctly, however did not include those in the .deb.   Anyone can help?   THANKS. Yan

Re: change DESTDIR

2004-12-07 Thread Nico Golde
Hello Yan, * Yan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004-12-07 23:36]: > Hi: > I am trying to create a .deb file. If i do not change > the rules, it create the correct .deb file. However, > when i changed DESTDIR=/usr/tmp, it install all > the stuff in /usr/tmp correctly, however did not > include those in the

Re: change DESTDIR

2004-12-07 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Yan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004.12.08.0209 +0100]: > I am trying to create a .deb file. If i do not change > the rules, it create the correct .deb file. However, > when i changed DESTDIR=/usr/tmp, it install all > the stuff in /usr/tmp correctly, however did not > include those in the .de