-dev package dependency policy

2004-11-28 Thread Osamu Aoki
Hi, I am sponsoring SCIM and I could not answer question from its maintainer on how FTBFS bug should be resolved for Bug #283047. Key part of discussion goes as folowing. We need to know what is the right way to fix this situation. > - Forwarded message from Ming Hua <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ---

Re: -dev package dependency policy

2004-11-28 Thread Mike Hommey
On Sun, Nov 28, 2004 at 07:27:20AM +0100, Osamu Aoki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > pkg-config --libs "uim >= 0.3.9" > > > > generates "-luim -lm17n" instead of only "-luim" as before. If the pkg-config file of uim gives a -lm17n, then, first of all, libuim-dev should depend on libm17n-dev

Re: -dev package dependency policy

2004-11-28 Thread Osamu Aoki
On Sun, Nov 28, 2004 at 04:53:30PM +0900, Mike Hommey wrote: > On Sun, Nov 28, 2004 at 07:27:20AM +0100, Osamu Aoki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > > pkg-config --libs "uim >= 0.3.9" > > > > > generates "-luim -lm17n" instead of only "-luim" as before. > > If the pkg-config file of uim g

Re: -dev package dependency policy

2004-11-28 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Osamu Aoki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004.11.28.0727 +0100]: > > > > With this new libuim-dev package, the command pkg-config > > > > --libs "uim >= 0.3.9" generates "-luim -lm17n" instead of > > > > only "-luim" as before. pkg-config can specify dependencies. In this case, libuim-dev shoul

Re: -dev package dependency policy

2004-11-28 Thread Mike Hommey
On Sun, Nov 28, 2004 at 09:06:33AM +0100, Osamu Aoki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, Nov 28, 2004 at 04:53:30PM +0900, Mike Hommey wrote: > > On Sun, Nov 28, 2004 at 07:27:20AM +0100, Osamu Aoki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > > > > pkg-config --libs "uim >= 0.3.9" > > > > > > genera

Re: SRPM to deb conversion standard practices and hints

2004-11-28 Thread Shaul Karl
On Sat, Nov 27, 2004 at 11:11:38PM +0100, Osamu Aoki wrote: > Hi, > > Since many GNU/Linux softwares are initially provided not onlr *.tar.gz > but also they come with SRPM, is there any guide to use them as a good > tem,plate to develop Debian package effeciently. > > It does not need to be poin

Re: SRPM to deb conversion standard practices and hints

2004-11-28 Thread Osamu Aoki
On Sun, Nov 28, 2004 at 02:28:09PM +0200, Shaul Karl wrote: > On Sat, Nov 27, 2004 at 11:11:38PM +0100, Osamu Aoki wrote: > > Hi, > > > > Since many GNU/Linux softwares are initially provided not onlr *.tar.gz > > but also they come with SRPM, is there any guide to use them as a good > > tem,plate

advice about splitting a package (libtiff-tools)

2004-11-28 Thread Jay Berkenbilt
The libtiff package (upstream) includes one program, tiffgt, that requires opengl. The current version of libtiff in debian installs tiffgt's manual page but does not install tiffgt. (This is bug 219456.) I have built new libtiff packages that create tiffgt, which seems like a reasonable progra

Re: [Pkg-ime-devel] -dev package dependency policy

2004-11-28 Thread Simon Richter
Hi, "The -dev package should depend on all -dev packages for libraries that the library package depends upon..." But this is actually a very strict requirement (since you are pulling in many -dev packages you don't even know through dependecies). And it generates quite long Depends: li

Re: advice about splitting a package (libtiff-tools)

2004-11-28 Thread Jay Berkenbilt
I think I'll reply to my own post. I brought this up on IRC and was pointed to a better solution. > The libtiff package (upstream) includes one program, tiffgt, that > requires opengl. The current version of libtiff in debian installs > tiffgt's manual page but does not install tiffgt. (

Re: [Pkg-ime-devel] -dev package dependency policy

2004-11-28 Thread Steve Langasek
On Sun, Nov 28, 2004 at 07:17:34PM +0100, Simon Richter wrote: > >> "The -dev package should depend on all -dev packages for libraries > >> that the library package depends upon..." > >>But this is actually a very strict requirement (since you are pulling in > >>many -dev packages you don't ev

Question concerning conffiles

2004-11-28 Thread matolek6
Hi, I'm trying to build a package in Debian Woody, I have only one file in conffiles '/etc/clamsmtp/clamsmtpd.conf', file clamsmtpd.conf is in the same directory as conffiles.After issuing command dpkg-buildpackage I get an error "dpkg-deb: conffile '/etc/clamsmtp/clamsmtpd.conf' does not apper

Re: Question concerning conffiles

2004-11-28 Thread Justin Pryzby
"conffiles" are a special case of "configuration files". They are updated gracefully by the package management system: users are prompted during a package upgrade *only* if 1) the upstream package maintainer updated the conffile and 2) *they* customized the conffile for their own system. A config

Re: -dev package dependency policy

2004-11-28 Thread Osamu Aoki
On Sun, Nov 28, 2004 at 04:53:30PM +0900, Mike Hommey wrote: > On Sun, Nov 28, 2004 at 07:27:20AM +0100, Osamu Aoki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > > pkg-config --libs "uim >= 0.3.9" > > > > > generates "-luim -lm17n" instead of only "-luim" as before. > > If the pkg-config file of uim g

Re: -dev package dependency policy

2004-11-28 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Osamu Aoki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004.11.28.0727 +0100]: > > > > With this new libuim-dev package, the command pkg-config > > > > --libs "uim >= 0.3.9" generates "-luim -lm17n" instead of > > > > only "-luim" as before. pkg-config can specify dependencies. In this case, libuim-dev shoul

Re: -dev package dependency policy

2004-11-28 Thread Mike Hommey
On Sun, Nov 28, 2004 at 09:06:33AM +0100, Osamu Aoki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, Nov 28, 2004 at 04:53:30PM +0900, Mike Hommey wrote: > > On Sun, Nov 28, 2004 at 07:27:20AM +0100, Osamu Aoki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > > > > pkg-config --libs "uim >= 0.3.9" > > > > > > genera

Re: SRPM to deb conversion standard practices and hints

2004-11-28 Thread Shaul Karl
On Sat, Nov 27, 2004 at 11:11:38PM +0100, Osamu Aoki wrote: > Hi, > > Since many GNU/Linux softwares are initially provided not onlr *.tar.gz > but also they come with SRPM, is there any guide to use them as a good > tem,plate to develop Debian package effeciently. > > It does not need to be poin

Re: SRPM to deb conversion standard practices and hints

2004-11-28 Thread Osamu Aoki
On Sun, Nov 28, 2004 at 02:28:09PM +0200, Shaul Karl wrote: > On Sat, Nov 27, 2004 at 11:11:38PM +0100, Osamu Aoki wrote: > > Hi, > > > > Since many GNU/Linux softwares are initially provided not onlr *.tar.gz > > but also they come with SRPM, is there any guide to use them as a good > > tem,plate

advice about splitting a package (libtiff-tools)

2004-11-28 Thread Jay Berkenbilt
The libtiff package (upstream) includes one program, tiffgt, that requires opengl. The current version of libtiff in debian installs tiffgt's manual page but does not install tiffgt. (This is bug 219456.) I have built new libtiff packages that create tiffgt, which seems like a reasonable progra

Re: [Pkg-ime-devel] -dev package dependency policy

2004-11-28 Thread Simon Richter
Hi, "The -dev package should depend on all -dev packages for libraries that the library package depends upon..." But this is actually a very strict requirement (since you are pulling in many -dev packages you don't even know through dependecies). And it generates quite long Depends: list fo

Re: advice about splitting a package (libtiff-tools)

2004-11-28 Thread Jay Berkenbilt
I think I'll reply to my own post. I brought this up on IRC and was pointed to a better solution. > The libtiff package (upstream) includes one program, tiffgt, that > requires opengl. The current version of libtiff in debian installs > tiffgt's manual page but does not install tiffgt. (

Re: [Pkg-ime-devel] -dev package dependency policy

2004-11-28 Thread Steve Langasek
On Sun, Nov 28, 2004 at 07:17:34PM +0100, Simon Richter wrote: > >> "The -dev package should depend on all -dev packages for libraries > >> that the library package depends upon..." > >>But this is actually a very strict requirement (since you are pulling in > >>many -dev packages you don't ev

Question concerning conffiles

2004-11-28 Thread matolek6
Hi, I'm trying to build a package in Debian Woody, I have only one file in conffiles '/etc/clamsmtp/clamsmtpd.conf', file clamsmtpd.conf is in the same directory as conffiles.After issuing command dpkg-buildpackage I get an error "dpkg-deb: conffile '/etc/clamsmtp/clamsmtpd.conf' does not apper

Re: Question concerning conffiles

2004-11-28 Thread Justin Pryzby
"conffiles" are a special case of "configuration files". They are updated gracefully by the package management system: users are prompted during a package upgrade *only* if 1) the upstream package maintainer updated the conffile and 2) *they* customized the conffile for their own system. A config