docs for debconf:db_*

2004-10-14 Thread martin f krafft
folks, I know that debconf-devel(7) lists the debconf protocol and that the shell and Perl wrappers are basically 1:1. Still, I wonder if there is any documentation about these (which may be a little more accessible to new users). Could someone please take a clue stick and whack it over my head if

Watch file

2004-10-14 Thread MiguelGea
Hello mentors, What's watch file? I found that my package don't have it, but I couldn't find the description of this file. -- Miguel Gea Milvaques <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: Watch file

2004-10-14 Thread Alexandre
On Thu, Oct 14, 2004 at 09:25:50AM +0200, MiguelGea wrote: > Hello mentors, > What's watch file? I found that my package don't have it, but I couldn't > find the description of this file. Short answer is man uscan A watch file describes where the ustream tarbals can be found. Scripts such as usca

Re: Watch file

2004-10-14 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach MiguelGea <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004.10.14.0925 +0200]: > What's watch file? I found that my package don't have it, but I couldn't > find the description of this file. Check out uscan(1) in the devscripts package. -- Please do not CC me when replying to lists; I read them! .''`.

Re: Watch file

2004-10-14 Thread Ricardo Mones
On Thu, 14 Oct 2004 09:25:50 +0200 MiguelGea <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello mentors, > What's watch file? I found that my package don't have it, but I couldn't > find the description of this file. $ more /usr/share/debhelper/dh_make/debians/watch.ex regards, -- Ricardo Mones Lastra - [E

transitioning from conffile to ucf

2004-10-14 Thread martin f krafft
I have a package here with a conffile in /etc. I now want to add debconf abilities and convert the conffile to a debconf-managed file. I would like to use ucf to provide policy-compliant configuration file handling. The problem I have is the package upgrade. dh_installdeb (which I want to keep usi

Re: transitioning from conffile to ucf

2004-10-14 Thread Brian Sutherland
On Thu, Oct 14, 2004 at 12:02:32PM +0200, martin f krafft wrote: > - save the conffile in the new preinst to /tmp and use it to seed > the new conffile in the new postinst. The problem here is that > I could potentially override a file in /tmp if I simply cp(1)'d > the file there. Usi

Re: transitioning from conffile to ucf

2004-10-14 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Brian Sutherland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004.10.14.1223 +0200]: > How about installing the config file template into /usr/share/foo > and copying it to the config dir in the postinst? (Policy 10.7.3) And how am I to preserve the user modifications? I can install a config file into /usr/s

Re: transitioning from conffile to ucf

2004-10-14 Thread Frank Küster
martin f krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb: > The problem I have is the package upgrade. dh_installdeb (which > I want to keep using) flags *all* files in /etc as conffiles and > provide no means to exclude patterns. Thus, in order to remove the > file from dpkg's custody, I have to actually *not

Re: transitioning from conffile to ucf

2004-10-14 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Frank Küster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004.10.14.1316 +0200]: > Have you tested this? I think that the file will not be deleted, > because upon upgrade, the old package is only removed, not purged. > Therefore all conffiles stay in /etc. I was about to reply with "of course", but then I t

Re: transitioning from conffile to ucf

2004-10-14 Thread Brian Sutherland
On Thu, Oct 14, 2004 at 01:29:40PM +0200, martin f krafft wrote: > Damn, I don't know what happened earlier, I could have sworn it did > not work. > > So the 'leftover' file /etc/foo.conf is never deleted because > version 1 is not purged and version 2 does not contain the file in > the lists file

Re: Where to submit a bug?

2004-10-14 Thread Adrian von Bidder
On Thursday 14 October 2004 00.33, Justin Pryzby wrote: > You can submit the bug to Debian, and it becomes the maintainer's > responsibility to forward it upstream if so necessary. (There is a > mechanism, too, for tagging a bug as "forwarded to [EMAIL PROTECTED]") such > that > this isn't duplic

Re: RFH lintian too hush

2004-10-14 Thread Jeroen van Wolffelaar
On Sun, Aug 29, 2004 at 10:26:13PM +0200, Geert Stappers wrote: > But I was looking for the hugh /usr/share so I tried > > lintian -C hus conglomerate_0.7.14-1_powerpc.deb > > Two snippets from the lintian manual page > >-C chk1,chk2,..., --check-part chk1,chk2,... > Run

Whats mean ITP:

2004-10-14 Thread MiguelGea
Hello, I see in any bug reports a message like this: Debian Bug report logs - #222894 ITP: dap -- Comprehensive audio sample editing and processing suite What's mean ITP? -- Miguel Gea Milvaques <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: Whats mean ITP:

2004-10-14 Thread Nico Golde
Hallo MiguelGea, * MiguelGea <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004-10-14 22:01]: > I see in any bug reports a message like this: > > Debian Bug report logs - #222894 > ITP: dap -- Comprehensive audio sample editing and processing suite > > What's mean ITP? intent to package: http://www.debian.org/devel/wnp

Re: Whats mean ITP:

2004-10-14 Thread Daniel J. Priem
Am Do, den 14.10.2004 schrieb MiguelGea um 21:42: > Hello, > I see in any bug reports a message like this: > > Debian Bug report logs - #222894 > ITP: dap -- Comprehensive audio sample editing and processing suite > > What's mean ITP? dict ITP ITP Intent to Package (Linux, Debian) :)

New package howto?

2004-10-14 Thread MiguelGea
Hello mentors, I found a RFP: Debian Bug report logs - #250538 RFP: libmatheval -- GNU library for evaluating symbolic mathematical expressions I'm not a DD, but I want to package it. must I send a ITP? this must follow #250538 bug? -- Miguel Gea Milvaques <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: New package howto?

2004-10-14 Thread Justin Pryzby
You should retitle that bug to an ITP. Justin On Thu, Oct 14, 2004 at 11:23:49PM +0200, MiguelGea wrote: > Hello mentors, > I found a RFP: > Debian Bug report logs - #250538 > RFP: libmatheval -- GNU library for evaluating symbolic mathematical > expressions > > I'm not a DD, but I want to package

Re: New package howto?

2004-10-14 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach MiguelGea <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004.10.14.2323 +0200]: > I'm not a DD, but I want to package it. must I send a ITP? this must > follow #250538 bug? Please retitle the book to an ITP and set yourself as owner by mailing [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the following contents: package wnpp retitl

Re: New package howto?

2004-10-14 Thread Nico Golde
Hello MiguelGea, * MiguelGea <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004-10-14 23:44]: > I found a RFP: > Debian Bug report logs - #250538 > RFP: libmatheval -- GNU library for evaluating symbolic mathematical > expressions > > I'm not a DD, but I want to package it. must I send a ITP? this must > follow #250538 b

Re: New package howto?

2004-10-14 Thread martin f krafft
Miguel, Please make sure you understand what I just told you. Thus, please surf to http://www.debian.org/Bugs/server-control and http://www.debian.org/devel/wnpp/ and read both. Then reply to me privately and explain to me what each of the four commands does. That said, I think you shou

Re: New package howto?

2004-10-14 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Nico Golde <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004.10.14.2353 +0200]: > yes, rfp means request for package, people send this because they want > to have a program packaged. if you want to package it, send an itp > (intent to package), package it and close the bug after the upload (do > it in the chan

Re: New package howto?

2004-10-14 Thread Nico Golde
Hello martin, * martin f krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004-10-15 00:05]: > also sprach Nico Golde <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004.10.14.2353 +0200]: > > yes, rfp means request for package, people send this because they want > > to have a program packaged. if you want to package it, send an itp > > (inten

Re: New package howto?

2004-10-14 Thread Nico Golde
* Nico Golde <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004-10-15 00:07]: > * martin f krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004-10-15 00:05]: > > also sprach Nico Golde <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004.10.14.2353 +0200]: > > > yes, rfp means request for package, people send this because they want > > > to have a program packaged. if

Re: docs for debconf:db_*

2004-10-14 Thread Joey Hess
martin f krafft wrote: > I know that debconf-devel(7) lists the debconf protocol and that the > shell and Perl wrappers are basically 1:1. Still, I wonder if there > is any documentation about these (which may be a little more > accessible to new users). Could someone please take a clue stick and >

Re: docs for debconf:db_*

2004-10-14 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004.10.14.2148 +0200]: > Maybe you're looking for Debconf::Client::ConfModule(3)? Not really. debconf-devel(7) is best, but it would be nice to have docs for the confmodule shell commands. then again, they are 1:1 as I found out... -- Please do not CC

Re: docs for debconf:db_*

2004-10-14 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach martin f krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004.10.15.0035 +0200]: > Not really. debconf-devel(7) is best, but it would be nice to have > docs for the confmodule shell commands. then again, they are 1:1 as > I found out... man 3 confmodule. Sorry Joey for taking so long. -- Please do not

Re: transitioning from conffile to ucf

2004-10-14 Thread Darren Salt
I demand that Frank Küster may or may not have written... [snip] > If you happen to have tetex-base installed in sid or sarge and have > continuously updated since woody, you'll find lots of useless *.map files > in /etc/texmf/dvips which are no longer in our *deb. You'll also find > /usr/share/te

Re: Where to submit a bug?

2004-10-14 Thread Craig Small
On Thu, Oct 14, 2004 at 04:50:22PM +0200, Adrian von Bidder wrote: > My experience is that if you can take the time to track down the upstream > bug tracking system and learn how it is used, it is much better (== you > get more reactions) to report a bug upstream for most packages, if it's > cl

Watch file

2004-10-14 Thread MiguelGea
Hello mentors, What's watch file? I found that my package don't have it, but I couldn't find the description of this file. -- Miguel Gea Milvaques <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Watch file

2004-10-14 Thread Alexandre
On Thu, Oct 14, 2004 at 09:25:50AM +0200, MiguelGea wrote: > Hello mentors, > What's watch file? I found that my package don't have it, but I couldn't > find the description of this file. Short answer is man uscan A watch file describes where the ustream tarbals can be found. Scripts such as usca

Re: Watch file

2004-10-14 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach MiguelGea <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004.10.14.0925 +0200]: > What's watch file? I found that my package don't have it, but I couldn't > find the description of this file. Check out uscan(1) in the devscripts package. -- Please do not CC me when replying to lists; I read them! .''`.

Re: Watch file

2004-10-14 Thread Ricardo Mones
On Thu, 14 Oct 2004 09:25:50 +0200 MiguelGea <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello mentors, > What's watch file? I found that my package don't have it, but I couldn't > find the description of this file. $ more /usr/share/debhelper/dh_make/debians/watch.ex regards, -- Ricardo Mones Lastra - [E

transitioning from conffile to ucf

2004-10-14 Thread martin f krafft
I have a package here with a conffile in /etc. I now want to add debconf abilities and convert the conffile to a debconf-managed file. I would like to use ucf to provide policy-compliant configuration file handling. The problem I have is the package upgrade. dh_installdeb (which I want to keep usi

Re: transitioning from conffile to ucf

2004-10-14 Thread Brian Sutherland
On Thu, Oct 14, 2004 at 12:02:32PM +0200, martin f krafft wrote: > - save the conffile in the new preinst to /tmp and use it to seed > the new conffile in the new postinst. The problem here is that > I could potentially override a file in /tmp if I simply cp(1)'d > the file there. Usi

Re: transitioning from conffile to ucf

2004-10-14 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Brian Sutherland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004.10.14.1223 +0200]: > How about installing the config file template into /usr/share/foo > and copying it to the config dir in the postinst? (Policy 10.7.3) And how am I to preserve the user modifications? I can install a config file into /usr/s

Re: transitioning from conffile to ucf

2004-10-14 Thread Frank Küster
martin f krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb: > The problem I have is the package upgrade. dh_installdeb (which > I want to keep using) flags *all* files in /etc as conffiles and > provide no means to exclude patterns. Thus, in order to remove the > file from dpkg's custody, I have to actually *not

Re: transitioning from conffile to ucf

2004-10-14 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Frank Küster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004.10.14.1316 +0200]: > Have you tested this? I think that the file will not be deleted, > because upon upgrade, the old package is only removed, not purged. > Therefore all conffiles stay in /etc. I was about to reply with "of course", but then I t

Re: transitioning from conffile to ucf

2004-10-14 Thread Brian Sutherland
On Thu, Oct 14, 2004 at 01:29:40PM +0200, martin f krafft wrote: > Damn, I don't know what happened earlier, I could have sworn it did > not work. > > So the 'leftover' file /etc/foo.conf is never deleted because > version 1 is not purged and version 2 does not contain the file in > the lists file

Re: Where to submit a bug?

2004-10-14 Thread Adrian von Bidder
On Thursday 14 October 2004 00.33, Justin Pryzby wrote: > You can submit the bug to Debian, and it becomes the maintainer's > responsibility to forward it upstream if so necessary. (There is a > mechanism, too, for tagging a bug as "forwarded to [EMAIL PROTECTED]") such that > this isn't duplicate

Re: RFH lintian too hush

2004-10-14 Thread Jeroen van Wolffelaar
On Sun, Aug 29, 2004 at 10:26:13PM +0200, Geert Stappers wrote: > But I was looking for the hugh /usr/share so I tried > > lintian -C hus conglomerate_0.7.14-1_powerpc.deb > > Two snippets from the lintian manual page > >-C chk1,chk2,..., --check-part chk1,chk2,... > Run

Whats mean ITP:

2004-10-14 Thread MiguelGea
Hello, I see in any bug reports a message like this: Debian Bug report logs - #222894 ITP: dap -- Comprehensive audio sample editing and processing suite What's mean ITP? -- Miguel Gea Milvaques <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe".

Re: Whats mean ITP:

2004-10-14 Thread Nico Golde
Hallo MiguelGea, * MiguelGea <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004-10-14 22:01]: > I see in any bug reports a message like this: > > Debian Bug report logs - #222894 > ITP: dap -- Comprehensive audio sample editing and processing suite > > What's mean ITP? intent to package: http://www.debian.org/devel/wnp

Re: Whats mean ITP:

2004-10-14 Thread Daniel J. Priem
Am Do, den 14.10.2004 schrieb MiguelGea um 21:42: > Hello, > I see in any bug reports a message like this: > > Debian Bug report logs - #222894 > ITP: dap -- Comprehensive audio sample editing and processing suite > > What's mean ITP? dict ITP ITP Intent to Package (Linux, Debian) :)

New package howto?

2004-10-14 Thread MiguelGea
Hello mentors, I found a RFP: Debian Bug report logs - #250538 RFP: libmatheval -- GNU library for evaluating symbolic mathematical expressions I'm not a DD, but I want to package it. must I send a ITP? this must follow #250538 bug? -- Miguel Gea Milvaques <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- To UNSUBSCRIBE

Re: New package howto?

2004-10-14 Thread Justin Pryzby
You should retitle that bug to an ITP. Justin On Thu, Oct 14, 2004 at 11:23:49PM +0200, MiguelGea wrote: > Hello mentors, > I found a RFP: > Debian Bug report logs - #250538 > RFP: libmatheval -- GNU library for evaluating symbolic mathematical > expressions > > I'm not a DD, but I want to package

Re: New package howto?

2004-10-14 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach MiguelGea <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004.10.14.2323 +0200]: > I'm not a DD, but I want to package it. must I send a ITP? this must > follow #250538 bug? Please retitle the book to an ITP and set yourself as owner by mailing [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the following contents: package wnpp retitl

Re: New package howto?

2004-10-14 Thread Nico Golde
Hello MiguelGea, * MiguelGea <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004-10-14 23:44]: > I found a RFP: > Debian Bug report logs - #250538 > RFP: libmatheval -- GNU library for evaluating symbolic mathematical > expressions > > I'm not a DD, but I want to package it. must I send a ITP? this must > follow #250538 b

Re: New package howto?

2004-10-14 Thread martin f krafft
Miguel, Please make sure you understand what I just told you. Thus, please surf to http://www.debian.org/Bugs/server-control and http://www.debian.org/devel/wnpp/ and read both. Then reply to me privately and explain to me what each of the four commands does. That said, I think you shou

Re: New package howto?

2004-10-14 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Nico Golde <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004.10.14.2353 +0200]: > yes, rfp means request for package, people send this because they want > to have a program packaged. if you want to package it, send an itp > (intent to package), package it and close the bug after the upload (do > it in the chan

Re: New package howto?

2004-10-14 Thread Nico Golde
Hello martin, * martin f krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004-10-15 00:05]: > also sprach Nico Golde <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004.10.14.2353 +0200]: > > yes, rfp means request for package, people send this because they want > > to have a program packaged. if you want to package it, send an itp > > (inten

Re: New package howto?

2004-10-14 Thread Nico Golde
* Nico Golde <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004-10-15 00:07]: > * martin f krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004-10-15 00:05]: > > also sprach Nico Golde <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004.10.14.2353 +0200]: > > > yes, rfp means request for package, people send this because they want > > > to have a program packaged. if

Re: docs for debconf:db_*

2004-10-14 Thread Joey Hess
martin f krafft wrote: > I know that debconf-devel(7) lists the debconf protocol and that the > shell and Perl wrappers are basically 1:1. Still, I wonder if there > is any documentation about these (which may be a little more > accessible to new users). Could someone please take a clue stick and >

Re: docs for debconf:db_*

2004-10-14 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004.10.14.2148 +0200]: > Maybe you're looking for Debconf::Client::ConfModule(3)? Not really. debconf-devel(7) is best, but it would be nice to have docs for the confmodule shell commands. then again, they are 1:1 as I found out... -- Please do not CC

Re: docs for debconf:db_*

2004-10-14 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach martin f krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004.10.15.0035 +0200]: > Not really. debconf-devel(7) is best, but it would be nice to have > docs for the confmodule shell commands. then again, they are 1:1 as > I found out... man 3 confmodule. Sorry Joey for taking so long. -- Please do not

Re: transitioning from conffile to ucf

2004-10-14 Thread Darren Salt
I demand that Frank Küster may or may not have written... [snip] > If you happen to have tetex-base installed in sid or sarge and have > continuously updated since woody, you'll find lots of useless *.map files > in /etc/texmf/dvips which are no longer in our *deb. You'll also find > /usr/share/te

Re: Where to submit a bug?

2004-10-14 Thread Craig Small
On Thu, Oct 14, 2004 at 04:50:22PM +0200, Adrian von Bidder wrote: > My experience is that if you can take the time to track down the upstream > bug tracking system and learn how it is used, it is much better (== you > get more reactions) to report a bug upstream for most packages, if it's > cl