Re: Development packages.

2004-03-22 Thread Steve Langasek
On Mon, Mar 22, 2004 at 09:59:34PM +, Scott James Remnant wrote: > > pkg-config is a *far* worse offender than libtool. With libtool, we > > have some hope of getting these things right in the near future; > > pkg-config, OTOH, doesn't even know there *is* a difference between > > static and s

Re: Development packages.

2004-03-22 Thread Scott James Remnant
On Mon, 2004-03-22 at 22:15, Steve Langasek wrote: > On Mon, Mar 22, 2004 at 09:59:34PM +, Scott James Remnant wrote: > > > But shipping .la files in non-dev packages should still be a hanging > > > offense. > > > Plugins using libltdl probably need them ... though not until some of > > the mo

Re: Development packages.

2004-03-22 Thread Stephen Frost
* Roger Leigh ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > I used a statically-linked binary just a few days ago. I needed to > resize an NTFS partition on a newly-delivered system which came with > Windows XP. In the event, I was able to get a statically linked > binary, copy it onto a floppy and run this after

Re: Development packages.

2004-03-22 Thread Stephen Frost
* Scott James Remnant ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > But shipping .la files in non-dev packages should still be a hanging > > offense. > > Plugins using libltdl probably need them ... though not until some of > the more exotic ports come to fruition. > > "Debian Solaris" anyone? :o) I'm not 100%

Re: Development packages.

2004-03-22 Thread Alexander Winston
On Mon, 2004-03-22 at 20:54 +, Roger Leigh wrote: > On a related note, I'd also be very happy if it was a requirement to > build libraries with a miniumum of "-g -ggdb -gdwarf-2", and not strip > them. We could provide some mechanism to automatically strip > binaries, surely? I believe that

Re: Development packages.

2004-03-22 Thread Roger Leigh
Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Mon, Mar 22, 2004 at 09:59:34PM +, Scott James Remnant wrote: >> > pkg-config is a *far* worse offender than libtool. With libtool, we >> > have some hope of getting these things right in the near future; >> > pkg-config, OTOH, doesn't even know

Re: Development packages.

2004-03-22 Thread Stephen Frost
* Scott James Remnant ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > If you are creating a library package, you should ship the shared > library (and SONAME symlink) in the libxxxN package and the static > library, name-only symlink *AND* .la file (if relevant) in the > libxxx[N]-dev package. Right, on Debian shipp

Re: RFS: mimms - MMS (mms://) streaming media download utility

2004-03-22 Thread Wesley J Landaker
On Sunday 07 March 2004 9:59 pm, Wesley J Landaker wrote: > Hi folks, > > I'm looking for a sponsor for the mimms package. This upload would > close ITP bug #221806. I've gettextized mimms, so now have a new version available that has i18n support for all of it's messages. > Source and binary pa

Re: Development packages.

2004-03-22 Thread Andreas Metzler
On 2004-03-22 Roger Leigh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Andreas Metzler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > On Mon, Mar 22, 2004 at 04:26:49PM +0100, Frank Küster wrote: > [libtool brokenness] > >> Yes, it did :-|. Could you point me to a documentation where I could > >> read about these problems, and

Re: Development packages.

2004-03-22 Thread Roger Leigh
Alexander Winston <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Mon, 2004-03-22 at 20:54 +, Roger Leigh wrote: > >> On a related note, I'd also be very happy if it was a requirement to >> build libraries with a miniumum of "-g -ggdb -gdwarf-2", and not strip >> them. We could provide some mechanism to aut

Re: Development packages.

2004-03-22 Thread Roger Leigh
Stephen Frost <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > * Roger Leigh ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: >> I used a statically-linked binary just a few days ago. I needed to >> resize an NTFS partition on a newly-delivered system which came with >> Windows XP. In the event, I was able to get a statically linked >>

Re: Development packages.

2004-03-22 Thread Roger Leigh
Stephen Frost <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > * Scott James Remnant ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: >> > But shipping .la files in non-dev packages should still be a hanging >> > offense. >> >> Plugins using libltdl probably need them ... though not until some of >> the more exotic ports come to fruition

Re: Development packages.

2004-03-22 Thread Anibal Monsalve Salazar
On Mon, Mar 22, 2004 at 05:26:39PM -0500, Stephen Frost wrote: >* Roger Leigh ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: >>I used a statically-linked binary just a few days ago. I needed to >>resize an NTFS partition on a newly-delivered system which came with >>Windows XP. In the event, I was able to get a stat

Re: Development packages.

2004-03-22 Thread Stephen Frost
* Roger Leigh ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > Stephen Frost <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > I'm not 100% sure but I actually thought that's what OpenLDAP used > > (libltdl) and it works just fine w/o the stupid .la files. > > Have you actually *used* libltdl yourself? For several reasons, it's > oft

Re: Development packages.

2004-03-22 Thread Stephen Frost
* Bernhard R. Link ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > * Stephen Frost <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [040322 21:14]: > > Pffft. Honestly, I think that claim of end-users and local > > administrators using static libraries is rather dated and rarely the > > case these days. > > I do not know, if they are used to

Re: Development packages.

2004-03-22 Thread Stephen Frost
* Anibal Monsalve Salazar ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > On Mon, Mar 22, 2004 at 05:26:39PM -0500, Stephen Frost wrote: > >Boot Knoppix or similar from a CD. PCs today are more often installed > >with CDs than floppies anyway. That's really a pretty poor reason. > > I cannot use a Knoppix CD to re

Re: Development packages.

2004-03-22 Thread Stephen Frost
* Roger Leigh ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > Consider this situation: Situations can be derived for anything. :) > > Joe Average installs Debian which *handles* all of the dependencies. > > Come on, this isn't even a reason to keep them. > > What about users who don't run Debian, or who don't run

Re: Need a sponsor to upload #234303

2004-03-22 Thread Everton da Silva Marques
Hi Mentors, I have added minimum support for both PHP and Perl into ruli-0.19. The new Debian packages are uploaded to mentors.debian.net and are also available in the usual place: http://savannah.nongnu.org/download/ruli/ I have a signature of [EMAIL PROTECTED] on my gpg key. I suppose that is

Re: Development packages.

2004-03-22 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Mon, Mar 22, 2004 at 08:54:17PM +, Roger Leigh wrote: > I used a statically-linked binary just a few days ago. I needed to > resize an NTFS partition on a newly-delivered system which came with > Windows XP. In the event, I was able to get a statically linked > binary, copy it onto a flop

Advice on adopting a package: relay-ctrl

2004-03-22 Thread Brian T Glenn
I have submitted an ITA (Bug#238972), but the original RFA is Bug#238972. I have new packages created for relay-ctrl at the current version per the RFA. I attempted to contact the current maintainer, but i have received no response after a few days. What else should I be doing in order to execute

Re: Should I always clean in debian/rules before making binary?

2004-03-22 Thread Peter Samuelson
[Bob Proulx] > There appear to be three cases. > > 1. The developer wrote the Makefiles by hand and did not supply any >support for DESTDIR natively. Actually there is also: 1a. The developer wrote Makefiles by hand, but also happens to have a clue, so at some point added DESTDIR su

uploaded my pim project to mentors.debian.net

2004-03-22 Thread Tom Ballard
Forum: http://mentors.debian.net/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=35&sid=d33a77afe7960fb079f69e21927abb6f Also: http://freshmet.net/projects/pim-tb http://freshmeat.net/screenshots/45596/ http://sourceforge.net/projects/pim-tb I'm working on the 1.5 version. The package name is "pim" which is somewhat gene

Re: uploaded my pim project to mentors.debian.net

2004-03-22 Thread Anibal Monsalve Salazar
On Mon, Mar 22, 2004 at 09:19:58PM -0800, Tom Ballard wrote: >Forum: >http://mentors.debian.net/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=35&sid=d33a77afe7960fb079f69e21927abb6f > >Also: >http://freshmet.net/projects/pim-tb >http://freshmeat.net/screenshots/45596/ >http://sourceforge.net/projects/pim-tb > >I'm working

Re: uploaded my pim project to mentors.debian.net

2004-03-22 Thread Tom Ballard
On Tue, Mar 23, 2004 at 05:10:29PM +1100, Anibal Monsalve Salazar wrote: > Please read [0] if you haven't done so. For one, there is no ITP record > at [1]. > > [0] http://people.debian.org/~mpalmer/debian-mentors_FAQ.html > [1] http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?pkg=wnpp Okay, did that

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