Re: How to be a great Debian Developer

2003-01-28 Thread Thomas Viehmann
Hi Chad. I did not answer to your first post for various reasons. While I thank you for your answers, I strongly disagree with some of your views to the point that I wondered why it was my package that prompted you to write about "pet-packages". Just as your advice was not only to me, please take

Re: How to be a great Debian Developer

2003-01-28 Thread Russell Coker
On Tue, 28 Jan 2003 08:55, Thomas Viehmann wrote: > still left, but you should well know that a volunteer project needs to > distribute the dull jobs amongst those that are working for the main cause. That is a fair point. However you may have noticed that there are difficulties in becoming a ne

How to debug apt-get dependencies

2003-01-28 Thread Karolina Lindqvist
The subject line says it all. I have a condition where apt-get refuses to upgrade. How can I figure out exactly what apt-get does not like: Here follows my example run. The reason I use a versioned install is just because otherwise apt-get just refuses to consider the upgrade. This is a problem

Re: How to be a great Debian Developer

2003-01-28 Thread Chad Miller
Hi, Thomas. On Tue, Jan 28, 2003 at 08:55:32AM +0100, Thomas Viehmann wrote: > Taking your answer literally, the conclusion is that you think that debian > has enough package maintainers and the others should bother about the crums > that fall from the table that existing DDs are not interested in

Re: OpenEXR beta packages.

2003-01-28 Thread Andrew Lau
On Mon, Jan 27, 2003 at 04:30:32PM +0100, Jesus Climent wrote: > They are lintian clean, but linda reports an odd error. Let me guess, netsnipe@espresso:/usr/src/debian-devel/active% linda -i libopenexr0_1.0.4-1_i386.deb X: libopenexr0; Package name doesn't contain one of the SONAMEs. This packa

RE: How to be a great Debian Developer

2003-01-28 Thread deFreese, Barry
>[...] Don't expect anyone to join > debian just to do the odd jobs and wanting to be "a slave to Debian". And > don't think that telling people "the contribution you want to offer is not > needed, please do the stuff we don't like" is a successful way

Re: How to be a great Debian Developer

2003-01-28 Thread Tom Marshall
> Unfortunately, it's hard to tell who is serious about Debian and who is, > for instance, likely to do work for a month, decide RedHat is what they > want to run at home, and never be seen again. > > A long NM process used to weed out people joining Debian on a whim > (good), but it also weede

Re: How to be a great Debian Developer

2003-01-28 Thread Stephen Gran
This one time, at band camp, deFreese, Barry said: > Hey I've offer to be a "slave" to Debian but no one seems to be taking > me seriously. I'll write man pages, clean up code, test, whatever, I > just need some guidance in the right direction. The way I look at it, > the more exposure I get, the

Re: How to be a great Debian Developer

2003-01-28 Thread Russell Coker
On Tue, 28 Jan 2003 17:55, deFreese, Barry wrote: > Hey I've offer to be a "slave" to Debian but no one seems to be taking me > seriously. I'll write man pages, clean up code, test, whatever, I just One thing you could do is write a script that searches for a man page for every binary on your sy

Re: How to be a great Debian Developer

2003-01-28 Thread Colin Watson
On Tue, Jan 28, 2003 at 01:03:11PM -0500, Stephen Gran wrote: > That's at least a start. I'm sure there must be a way to get a list of > bugs with a specific tag; e.g 'help' or 'unreproducable' that need some > help to fix, but I can't find it right now. Colin, is that possible? Not for tags in

Re: How to be a great Debian Developer

2003-01-28 Thread Bas Zoetekouw
Hi Russell! You wrote: > One thing you could do is write a script that searches for a man page for > every binary on your system. /usr/bin and /bin binaries deserve man pages in > section 1, /usr/sbin and /sbin binaries deserve man pages in section 8. If > you write a Perl script to search f

RE: How to be a great Debian Developer

2003-01-28 Thread deFreese, Barry
Bas, I've looked at this page and had a brief discussion with Bastian on it. I'm somewhat of a noob to Linux and really green on the development side so my question was. How do I know if any of these packages listed on this page are even still in use? Many of the bug reports for a lot of these

Question about lintian's shell-script-fails-syntax-check

2003-01-28 Thread Marco Kuhlmann
Hi all. A package of mine, mozart, uses some rather informal shell scripts. The idea is to provide a wrapper around one of their tools, ozengine -- the shell script passes its arguments and a kind of initialisation code to ozengine. To illustrate this, the beginning of one script looks like

joining Debian / packaging buildd

2003-01-28 Thread Jeremy Lainé
Hi! I am interested in becoming a Debian developer and have already produced a number of Debian packages, but they fall in the "pet packages" category referred to in another thread on this list. The most recent ones are mpf70-source and mpf70-utils, respectively the source for a kernel module (bui

Re: OpenEXR beta packages.

2003-01-28 Thread Michel Dänzer
On Die, 2003-01-28 at 17:35, Andrew Lau wrote: > * libopenexr0-dev should Depends: libopenexr0 (= ${Source-Version}), > xlibmesa-gl-dev, xlibmesa-glu-dev. "grep #include > /usr/include/OpenEXR/*" to see why. You probably mean libgl-dev and libglu-dev instead of xlibmesa-gl-dev and xlibmesa-gl

Re: Question about lintian's shell-script-fails-syntax-check

2003-01-28 Thread Bastian Kleineidam
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Marco, On Tue, Jan 28, 2003 at 09:39:15PM +0100, Marco Kuhlmann wrote: > The scripts seem to work fine in spite of their syntax > errors, but I am not sure how to convince lintian about that. Read file:///usr/share/doc/lintian/lintian.html/ch2.html#s2

Re: joining Debian / packaging buildd

2003-01-28 Thread Roger Leigh
Jeremy Lainé <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > In the meantime, I think I've found something to sink my teeth in, > namely packaging buildd. I realise it's a big bugger, but as packaging > it seems to have been on the TODO list for a while I suppose any work > I put into it is that much done.. You mi

Mathwar - Orphaned Package

2003-01-28 Thread David Lloyd
Hi There, * http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=174700 A few really silly questions: 1) Is that package still orphaned? - I'd say so because upstream has gone to version 0.2.X 2) I want to adopt it - upstream author is happy - haven't heard from the maintainer Peter Crystal <[E

Re: Question about lintian's shell-script-fails-syntax-check

2003-01-28 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On Tuesday 28 January 2003 13:51, Bastian Kleineidam wrote: > Marco, > > On Tue, Jan 28, 2003 at 09:39:15PM +0100, Marco Kuhlmann wrote: > > The scripts seem to work fine in spite of their syntax > > errors, but I am not sure how to convince lintian about that. > > Read file:///usr/share/doc/lintia

Re: Mathwar - Orphaned Package

2003-01-28 Thread Joe Nahmias
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 David, > 1) Is that package still orphaned? > - I'd say so because upstream has gone to version 0.2.X No new information has been sent to the bug since the original report, and the title still says "O:", so I'd say it is orphaned. > ..but I can't wo

Re: How to be a great Debian Developer

2003-01-28 Thread Sven Luther
On Mon, Jan 27, 2003 at 05:48:19PM -0500, Chad Miller wrote: > Let me give a personal example: I wrote a program that uses the XMLRPC > features of Advogato to edit one's diary there. People loved it. There > are about two dozen people who regularly use it. I made it into a > package, and put i

Re: How to be a great Debian Developer

2003-01-28 Thread Thomas Viehmann
Hi Chad. I did not answer to your first post for various reasons. While I thank you for your answers, I strongly disagree with some of your views to the point that I wondered why it was my package that prompted you to write about "pet-packages". Just as your advice was not only to me, please take

Re: How to be a great Debian Developer

2003-01-28 Thread Russell Coker
On Tue, 28 Jan 2003 08:55, Thomas Viehmann wrote: > still left, but you should well know that a volunteer project needs to > distribute the dull jobs amongst those that are working for the main cause. That is a fair point. However you may have noticed that there are difficulties in becoming a ne

How to debug apt-get dependencies

2003-01-28 Thread Karolina Lindqvist
The subject line says it all. I have a condition where apt-get refuses to upgrade. How can I figure out exactly what apt-get does not like: Here follows my example run. The reason I use a versioned install is just because otherwise apt-get just refuses to consider the upgrade. This is a problem

Re: How to be a great Debian Developer

2003-01-28 Thread Chad Miller
Hi, Thomas. On Tue, Jan 28, 2003 at 08:55:32AM +0100, Thomas Viehmann wrote: > Taking your answer literally, the conclusion is that you think that debian > has enough package maintainers and the others should bother about the crums > that fall from the table that existing DDs are not interested in

Re: OpenEXR beta packages.

2003-01-28 Thread Andrew Lau
On Mon, Jan 27, 2003 at 04:30:32PM +0100, Jesus Climent wrote: > They are lintian clean, but linda reports an odd error. Let me guess, [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/src/debian-devel/active% linda -i libopenexr0_1.0.4-1_i386.deb X: libopenexr0; Package name doesn't contain one of the SONAMEs. This packa

RE: How to be a great Debian Developer

2003-01-28 Thread deFreese, Barry
>[...] Don't expect anyone to join > debian just to do the odd jobs and wanting to be "a slave to Debian". And > don't think that telling people "the contribution you want to offer is not > needed, please do the stuff we don't like" is a successful way

Re: How to be a great Debian Developer

2003-01-28 Thread Tom Marshall
> Unfortunately, it's hard to tell who is serious about Debian and who is, > for instance, likely to do work for a month, decide RedHat is what they > want to run at home, and never be seen again. > > A long NM process used to weed out people joining Debian on a whim > (good), but it also weede

Re: How to be a great Debian Developer

2003-01-28 Thread Stephen Gran
This one time, at band camp, deFreese, Barry said: > Hey I've offer to be a "slave" to Debian but no one seems to be taking > me seriously. I'll write man pages, clean up code, test, whatever, I > just need some guidance in the right direction. The way I look at it, > the more exposure I get, the

Re: How to be a great Debian Developer

2003-01-28 Thread Russell Coker
On Tue, 28 Jan 2003 17:55, deFreese, Barry wrote: > Hey I've offer to be a "slave" to Debian but no one seems to be taking me > seriously. I'll write man pages, clean up code, test, whatever, I just One thing you could do is write a script that searches for a man page for every binary on your sy

Re: How to be a great Debian Developer

2003-01-28 Thread Colin Watson
On Tue, Jan 28, 2003 at 01:03:11PM -0500, Stephen Gran wrote: > That's at least a start. I'm sure there must be a way to get a list of > bugs with a specific tag; e.g 'help' or 'unreproducable' that need some > help to fix, but I can't find it right now. Colin, is that possible? Not for tags in

Re: How to be a great Debian Developer

2003-01-28 Thread Bas Zoetekouw
Hi Russell! You wrote: > One thing you could do is write a script that searches for a man page for > every binary on your system. /usr/bin and /bin binaries deserve man pages in > section 1, /usr/sbin and /sbin binaries deserve man pages in section 8. If > you write a Perl script to search f

RE: How to be a great Debian Developer

2003-01-28 Thread deFreese, Barry
Bas, I've looked at this page and had a brief discussion with Bastian on it. I'm somewhat of a noob to Linux and really green on the development side so my question was. How do I know if any of these packages listed on this page are even still in use? Many of the bug reports for a lot of these

Question about lintian's shell-script-fails-syntax-check

2003-01-28 Thread Marco Kuhlmann
Hi all. A package of mine, mozart, uses some rather informal shell scripts. The idea is to provide a wrapper around one of their tools, ozengine -- the shell script passes its arguments and a kind of initialisation code to ozengine. To illustrate this, the beginning of one script looks like

joining Debian / packaging buildd

2003-01-28 Thread Jeremy Lainé
Hi! I am interested in becoming a Debian developer and have already produced a number of Debian packages, but they fall in the "pet packages" category referred to in another thread on this list. The most recent ones are mpf70-source and mpf70-utils, respectively the source for a kernel module (bui

Re: OpenEXR beta packages.

2003-01-28 Thread Michel Dänzer
On Die, 2003-01-28 at 17:35, Andrew Lau wrote: > * libopenexr0-dev should Depends: libopenexr0 (= ${Source-Version}), > xlibmesa-gl-dev, xlibmesa-glu-dev. "grep #include > /usr/include/OpenEXR/*" to see why. You probably mean libgl-dev and libglu-dev instead of xlibmesa-gl-dev and xlibmesa-gl

Re: Question about lintian's shell-script-fails-syntax-check

2003-01-28 Thread Bastian Kleineidam
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Marco, On Tue, Jan 28, 2003 at 09:39:15PM +0100, Marco Kuhlmann wrote: > The scripts seem to work fine in spite of their syntax > errors, but I am not sure how to convince lintian about that. Read file:///usr/share/doc/lintian/lintian.html/ch2.html#s2

Re: joining Debian / packaging buildd

2003-01-28 Thread Roger Leigh
Jeremy Lainé <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > In the meantime, I think I've found something to sink my teeth in, > namely packaging buildd. I realise it's a big bugger, but as packaging > it seems to have been on the TODO list for a while I suppose any work > I put into it is that much done.. You mi

Mathwar - Orphaned Package

2003-01-28 Thread David Lloyd
Hi There, * http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=174700 A few really silly questions: 1) Is that package still orphaned? - I'd say so because upstream has gone to version 0.2.X 2) I want to adopt it - upstream author is happy - haven't heard from the maintainer Peter Crystal <[E

Re: Question about lintian's shell-script-fails-syntax-check

2003-01-28 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On Tuesday 28 January 2003 13:51, Bastian Kleineidam wrote: > Marco, > > On Tue, Jan 28, 2003 at 09:39:15PM +0100, Marco Kuhlmann wrote: > > The scripts seem to work fine in spite of their syntax > > errors, but I am not sure how to convince lintian about that. > > Read file:///usr/share/doc/lintia

Re: Mathwar - Orphaned Package

2003-01-28 Thread Joe Nahmias
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 David, > 1) Is that package still orphaned? > - I'd say so because upstream has gone to version 0.2.X No new information has been sent to the bug since the original report, and the title still says "O:", so I'd say it is orphaned. > ..but I can't wo