Re: duplicate library code in a package

2005-10-01 Thread Andreas Fester
Joey Hess wrote: Andreas Fester wrote: not necessarily. It must be the original, but it must not be pristine. That's self-contradictory. And wrong. That's what I learned from other developers during my first packaging experience :-), and its difficult to argue if you are a novice I al

Re: duplicate library code in a package

2005-09-30 Thread Joey Hess
Andreas Fester wrote: > not necessarily. It must be the original, but it must not be pristine. That's self-contradictory. And wrong. > One reason could be to remove autotools dependencies, another could be > to remove files which would otherwise be removed by the "clean" target > and would end up

Re: duplicate library code in a package

2005-09-29 Thread Bas Wijnen
On Thu, Sep 29, 2005 at 06:22:43PM +0200, Thomas Viehmann wrote: > Sorry, but I have to point out that your recommendation describes the > very opposite of Debian best packaging practices. > > - Basically, the only reason to repackage upstream is to avoid license > problems. Dropping unneccessar

Re: duplicate library code in a package

2005-09-29 Thread Thomas Viehmann
Andreas Fester wrote: >> Sorry, but I have to point out that your recommendation describes the >> very opposite of Debian best packaging practices. > I am just not sure how "strong" this practice should be seen. My Quite frankly, I was disappointed that this recommendation didn't get more criticis

Re: duplicate library code in a package

2005-09-29 Thread Andreas Fester
Hi, Thomas Viehmann wrote: [...] not necessarily. It must be the original, but it must not be pristine. One reason could be to remove autotools dependencies, another could be to remove files which would otherwise be removed by the "clean" target and would end up in a huge diff.gz. Sorry, but I

Re: duplicate library code in a package

2005-09-29 Thread Thomas Viehmann
Hi, Andreas Fester wrote: >>> An excellent point. I imagine that it would also be permissible to >>> repackage the .orig.tar.gz file so that it is gone from there as well. >> >> ? orig.tar.gz should be as it says - the original. > not necessarily. It must be the original, but it must not be prist

Re: duplicate library code in a package

2005-09-28 Thread Carlo Segre
On Thu, 29 Sep 2005, François-Denis Gonthier wrote: On 28 September 2005 14:07, Justin Pryzby wrote: When I make a new upstream package for Erlang, I need to extract the upstream tar.gz file, which is named otp_src_[version].tar.gz, rename the created directory to a Debian friendly name and the

Re: duplicate library code in a package

2005-09-28 Thread Justin Pryzby
On Thu, Sep 29, 2005 at 12:05:10AM -0400, Fran?ois-Denis Gonthier wrote: > On 28 September 2005 14:07, Justin Pryzby wrote: > > When I make a new upstream package for Erlang, I need to extract the upstream > tar.gz file, which is named otp_src_[version].tar.gz, rename the created > directory to

Re: duplicate library code in a package

2005-09-28 Thread François-Denis Gonthier
On 28 September 2005 14:07, Justin Pryzby wrote: When I make a new upstream package for Erlang, I need to extract the upstream tar.gz file, which is named otp_src_[version].tar.gz, rename the created directory to a Debian friendly name and then make the .orig.tar.gz. Does that count as repackag

Re: duplicate library code in a package

2005-09-28 Thread Justin Pryzby
On Wed, Sep 28, 2005 at 01:08:47PM -0500, Carlo Segre wrote: > On Wed, 28 Sep 2005, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > >An excellent point. I imagine that it would also be permissible to > >repackage the .orig.tar.gz file so that it is gone from there as well. > True, but then there is an additional ste

Re: duplicate library code in a package

2005-09-28 Thread Bartosz Fenski aka fEnIo
On Wed, Sep 28, 2005 at 12:19:08PM -0400, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > > Is it a Bad Thing to use that library instead of depending on the > > official packaged one? > > Yes(TM), it is a Bad Thing(TM). > > If the official library is suitable, then use it. It will: > > - absolve you of providing

Re: duplicate library code in a package

2005-09-28 Thread Carlo Segre
On Wed, 28 Sep 2005, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: An excellent point. I imagine that it would also be permissible to repackage the .orig.tar.gz file so that it is gone from there as well. -Roberto True, but then there is an additional step to taking a new tarball release and making a packag

Re: duplicate library code in a package

2005-09-28 Thread Justin Pryzby
On Wed, Sep 28, 2005 at 01:36:02PM -0400, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > On Wed, Sep 28, 2005 at 12:07:08PM -0500, Carlo Segre wrote: > > On Wed, 28 Sep 2005, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > > > > >On Wed, Sep 28, 2005 at 06:15:12PM +0200, Tommaso Moroni wrote: > > >>Hi! > > >> > > >>I'm packaging kchmvi

Re: duplicate library code in a package

2005-09-28 Thread Andreas Fester
An excellent point. I imagine that it would also be permissible to repackage the .orig.tar.gz file so that it is gone from there as well. ? orig.tar.gz should be as it says - the original. not necessarily. It must be the original, but it must not be pristine. One reason could be to remove au

Re: duplicate library code in a package

2005-09-28 Thread Neil Williams
On Wednesday 28 September 2005 6:36 pm, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > > Don't delete it form the upstream tarball though or your diffs will be > > huge. Just disable the compilation in the makefiles. > > > > Carlo > > An excellent point. I imagine that it would also be permissible to > repackage the

Re: duplicate library code in a package

2005-09-28 Thread Pradeepto Bhattacharya
Hello Tommaso, Good thing that you are making a debian of kchmviewer. I myself made a debian package a month back or so.I contacted the developer about the same. I got reply just yesterday. Anyways I have already worked on this, so if you want I can send you the debianised source tar and you c

Re: duplicate library code in a package

2005-09-28 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Wed, Sep 28, 2005 at 12:07:08PM -0500, Carlo Segre wrote: > On Wed, 28 Sep 2005, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > > >On Wed, Sep 28, 2005 at 06:15:12PM +0200, Tommaso Moroni wrote: > >>Hi! > >> > >>I'm packaging kchmviewer, which uses a version of chmlib bundled > >>in the upstream tarball. > >> > >

Re: duplicate library code in a package

2005-09-28 Thread Carlo Segre
On Wed, 28 Sep 2005, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: On Wed, Sep 28, 2005 at 06:15:12PM +0200, Tommaso Moroni wrote: Hi! I'm packaging kchmviewer, which uses a version of chmlib bundled in the upstream tarball. Is it a Bad Thing to use that library instead of depending on the official packaged one?

Re: duplicate library code in a package

2005-09-28 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Wed, Sep 28, 2005 at 06:15:12PM +0200, Tommaso Moroni wrote: > Hi! > > I'm packaging kchmviewer, which uses a version of chmlib bundled > in the upstream tarball. > > Is it a Bad Thing to use that library instead of depending on the > official packaged one? Yes(TM), it is a Bad Thing(TM). If

duplicate library code in a package

2005-09-28 Thread Tommaso Moroni
Hi! I'm packaging kchmviewer, which uses a version of chmlib bundled in the upstream tarball. Is it a Bad Thing to use that library instead of depending on the official packaged one? Regards, -- Tommaso Moroni <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject