Re: how to get people to run lintian on their packages

2011-08-02 Thread Arno Töll
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Paul, On 02.08.2011 23:34, Paul Wise wrote: > Which version of lintian does it use? It would be nice if it were > pinned to sid or backports. I guess it doesn't process the binary > packages? Currently it uses 2.5.1 from Sid. Asheesh installed tha

Re: how to get people to run lintian on their packages

2011-08-02 Thread Paul Wise
On Tue, Aug 2, 2011 at 3:10 PM, Asheesh Laroia wrote: > A quick, much-delayed follow-up to this thread: expo.debian.net shows > lintian output on the web now. Which version of lintian does it use? It would be nice if it were pinned to sid or backports. I guess it doesn't process the binary packag

Re: how to get people to run lintian on their packages

2011-08-02 Thread Asheesh Laroia
On Thu, 7 Jul 2011, Paul Wise wrote: It is rare to see an RFS that says "The package appears to be lintian clean." and the package (especially binary ones) actually be lintian clean. If we were to change the RFS template, what could we change it to in order to encourage accuracy and for people

Re: how to get people to run lintian on their packages

2011-07-09 Thread Jakub Wilk
* Arno Töll , 2011-07-09, 11:13: Automatically running code from random people sounds rather risky to me. ... And now you're even giving them root rights! I suppose this is out of the question. Well, this is not necessarily a problem. There are enough possibilities to come over this problem

Re: how to get people to run lintian on their packages

2011-07-09 Thread Arno Töll
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Sven, On 09.07.2011 10:36, Sven Joachim wrote: > On 2011-07-09 10:20 +0200, Reijo Tomperi wrote: > Automatically running code from random people sounds rather risky to me. ... > And now you're even giving them root rights! I suppose this is out of

Re: how to get people to run lintian on their packages

2011-07-09 Thread Reijo Tomperi
Sven Joachim wrote: And now you're even giving them root rights! I suppose this is out of the question. Is it impossible to setup a sandbox where this is done? Isolate it from everything, except from some trivial output mechanism which will give the results back to service. -- Reijo --

Re: how to get people to run lintian on their packages

2011-07-09 Thread Sven Joachim
On 2011-07-09 10:20 +0200, Reijo Tomperi wrote: > We could have a service where we submit the package. That service will > then run some checks for it. E.g. > - building the package Automatically running code from random people sounds rather risky to me. > - lintian check. > - install & uninstal

Re: how to get people to run lintian on their packages

2011-07-09 Thread Reijo Tomperi
Paul Tagliamonte wrote: We do have part of the upload on m.d.n, I have a hunch it'd be fairly simple to actually run Lintian on it, and report the status of the package. I second this. We could have a service where we submit the package. That service will then run some checks for it. E.g.

Re: how to get people to run lintian on their packages

2011-07-08 Thread Karl Goetz
On Fri, 8 Jul 2011 11:32:20 +0200 "Thomas Preud'homme" wrote: > Le vendredi 8 juillet 2011 11:13:53, Arno Töll a écrit : > > Hi Karl, > > > > On 08.07.2011 05:49, Karl Goetz wrote: > > >> - The -I and --pedantic options should always be used. > > > > > > Why is that? the manual entry for --pe

Re: how to get people to run lintian on their packages

2011-07-08 Thread Thomas Preud'homme
Le vendredi 8 juillet 2011 11:13:53, Arno Töll a écrit : > Hi Karl, > > On 08.07.2011 05:49, Karl Goetz wrote: > >> - The -I and --pedantic options should always be used. > > > > Why is that? the manual entry for --pedantic says > > > >> Pedantic tags are Lintian at its most pick

Re: how to get people to run lintian on their packages

2011-07-08 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Fri, Jul 08, 2011 at 11:13:53AM +0200, Arno Töll a écrit : > > That said, some pedantic tags can probably be ignored but most are > nonetheless still a very helpful addition one better should consider > when packaging software. Hello everybody, I would like to add that in my experience, an in

Re: how to get people to run lintian on their packages

2011-07-08 Thread Arno Töll
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Karl, On 08.07.2011 05:49, Karl Goetz wrote: >> - The -I and --pedantic options should always be used. > > Why is that? the manual entry for --pedantic says >> Pedantic tags are Lintian at its most pickiest and >> include checks fo

Re: how to get people to run lintian on their packages

2011-07-07 Thread Karl Goetz
On Fri, 8 Jul 2011 07:27:21 +0200 Kilian Krause wrote: > Hi Paul, > > On Thu, Jul 07, 2011 at 11:04:49PM +0200, Paul Wise wrote: > > On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 11:01 PM, Kilian Krause > > wrote: > > > Does anyone know the current status of the new mentors.d.n? > > > > Hasn't seen many commits rec

Re: how to get people to run lintian on their packages

2011-07-07 Thread Ben Finney
Paul Wise writes: > It is rare to see an RFS that says "The package appears to be lintian > clean." and the package (especially binary ones) actually be lintian > clean. Thanks for raising this topic for discussion. > If we were to change the RFS template, what could we change it to in > order

Re: how to get people to run lintian on their packages

2011-07-07 Thread Kilian Krause
Hi Paul, On Thu, Jul 07, 2011 at 11:04:49PM +0200, Paul Wise wrote: > On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 11:01 PM, Kilian Krause wrote: > > > Until that happens though I've put together a somewhat lenghty test-script > > that I usually run on my resulting packages after they are built as a review > > proces

Re: how to get people to run lintian on their packages

2011-07-07 Thread Karl Goetz
On Thu, 7 Jul 2011 22:47:24 +0200 Paul Wise wrote: > It is rare to see an RFS that says "The package appears to be lintian > clean." and the package (especially binary ones) actually be lintian > clean. If we were to change the RFS template, what could we change it > to in order to encourage accu

Re: how to get people to run lintian on their packages

2011-07-07 Thread Karl Goetz
On Thu, 7 Jul 2011 23:05:03 +0200 Benoît Knecht wrote: > Hi Paul, > > Paul Wise wrote: > > It is rare to see an RFS that says "The package appears to be > > lintian clean." and the package (especially binary ones) actually > > be lintian clean. If we were to change the RFS template, what could >

Re: how to get people to run lintian on their packages

2011-07-07 Thread Andrew Starr-Bochicchio
On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 6:45 PM, Charles Plessy wrote: > Le Thu, Jul 07, 2011 at 10:47:24PM +0200, Paul Wise a écrit : >> It is rare to see an RFS that says "The package appears to be lintian >> clean." and the package (especially binary ones) actually be lintian >> clean. If we were to change the

Re: how to get people to run lintian on their packages

2011-07-07 Thread Rodolfo kix Garcia
On Fri, 08 Jul 2011 00:35:51 +0200, Niels Thykier wrote: On 2011-07-08 00:34, Rodolfo kix Garcia wrote: One idea about how to check the packages is add the check in the the .dupload.conf file. Not sure about dupload, but dput has a --lintian option. :) Example: $preupload{'deb'} = 'lintia

Re: how to get people to run lintian on their packages

2011-07-07 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Thu, Jul 07, 2011 at 10:47:24PM +0200, Paul Wise a écrit : > It is rare to see an RFS that says "The package appears to be lintian > clean." and the package (especially binary ones) actually be lintian > clean. If we were to change the RFS template, what could we change it > to in order to encou

Re: how to get people to run lintian on their packages

2011-07-07 Thread Niels Thykier
On 2011-07-08 00:34, Rodolfo kix Garcia wrote: > On Thu, 7 Jul 2011 23:05:03 +0200, Benoît Knecht wrote: >> Hi Paul, >> >> Paul Wise wrote: >>> It is rare to see an RFS that says "The package appears to be lintian >>> clean." and the package (especially binary ones) actually be lintian >>> clean. I

Re: how to get people to run lintian on their packages

2011-07-07 Thread Rodolfo kix Garcia
On Thu, 7 Jul 2011 23:05:03 +0200, Benoît Knecht wrote: Hi Paul, Paul Wise wrote: It is rare to see an RFS that says "The package appears to be lintian clean." and the package (especially binary ones) actually be lintian clean. If we were to change the RFS template, what could we change it t

Re: how to get people to run lintian on their packages

2011-07-07 Thread gregor herrmann
On Thu, 07 Jul 2011 23:36:21 +0200, Niels Thykier wrote: > A little heads up; in lintian 2.5.1 and newer you can enable default > settings for some options in your lintianrc (e.g. ~/.lintianrc): Wow, that's cool -- thanks! Cheers, gregor -- .''`. Homepage: http://info.comodo.priv.at/ - P

Re: how to get people to run lintian on their packages

2011-07-07 Thread Niels Thykier
On 2011-07-07 23:05, Benoît Knecht wrote: > Hi Paul, > > Paul Wise wrote: >> [...] > > I think three things are currently unclear: > > - lintian should be run on the .changes file before uploading a > package to mentors, in order to check both the source and binary > package (I know I

Re: how to get people to run lintian on their packages

2011-07-07 Thread Benoît Knecht
Hi Paul, Paul Wise wrote: > It is rare to see an RFS that says "The package appears to be lintian > clean." and the package (especially binary ones) actually be lintian > clean. If we were to change the RFS template, what could we change it > to in order to encourage accuracy and for people to act

Re: how to get people to run lintian on their packages

2011-07-07 Thread Paul Wise
On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 11:01 PM, Kilian Krause wrote: > Until that happens though I've put together a somewhat lenghty test-script > that I usually run on my resulting packages after they are built as a review > process. And if that fails, I'll report it back to the list like anyone > else. Would

Re: how to get people to run lintian on their packages

2011-07-07 Thread Kilian Krause
Paul, On Thu, Jul 07, 2011 at 10:47:24PM +0200, Paul Wise wrote: > It is rare to see an RFS that says "The package appears to be lintian > clean." and the package (especially binary ones) actually be lintian > clean. If we were to change the RFS template, what could we change it > to in order to e

Re: how to get people to run lintian on their packages

2011-07-07 Thread Nicolas
Hi all, I think the main problem is the default level of warning/error for lintian. Even for my first package I ran lintian but my package seems to be lintian clean !! Now I run lintian with theses parameters : lintian -IivEcm --pedantic *.changes It's a but strict but help me find problem. Rega

Re: how to get people to run lintian on their packages

2011-07-07 Thread Paul Tagliamonte
On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 4:47 PM, Paul Wise wrote: > It is rare to see an RFS that says "The package appears to be lintian > clean." and the package (especially binary ones) actually be lintian > clean. If we were to change the RFS template, what could we change it > to in order to encourage accurac