On Mon, Sep 02, 2002 at 02:05:48AM +0200, Peter Palfrader wrote:
> On Sun, 01 Sep 2002, Kristis Makris wrote:
> > On Tue, 2002-08-27 at 04:15, Peter Palfrader wrote:
> > > Colin Watson wrote:
> > > > Currently I see no way at all to find out whose requests for sponsorship
> > > > have gone unnotice
On Sun, 01 Sep 2002, Kristis Makris wrote:
> On Tue, 2002-08-27 at 04:15, Peter Palfrader wrote:
>
> > > Currently I see no way at all to find out whose requests for sponsorship
> > > have gone unnoticed in a practical way, which I think is important.
> > > Using the BTS would offer this quite ea
On Tue, 2002-08-27 at 04:15, Peter Palfrader wrote:
> > Currently I see no way at all to find out whose requests for sponsorship
> > have gone unnoticed in a practical way, which I think is important.
> > Using the BTS would offer this quite easily. I'd love to know how you
> > keep track of this
On Mon, Sep 02, 2002 at 02:05:48AM +0200, Peter Palfrader wrote:
> On Sun, 01 Sep 2002, Kristis Makris wrote:
> > On Tue, 2002-08-27 at 04:15, Peter Palfrader wrote:
> > > Colin Watson wrote:
> > > > Currently I see no way at all to find out whose requests for sponsorship
> > > > have gone unnotic
On Sun, 01 Sep 2002, Kristis Makris wrote:
> On Tue, 2002-08-27 at 04:15, Peter Palfrader wrote:
>
> > > Currently I see no way at all to find out whose requests for sponsorship
> > > have gone unnoticed in a practical way, which I think is important.
> > > Using the BTS would offer this quite e
On Tue, 2002-08-27 at 04:15, Peter Palfrader wrote:
> > Currently I see no way at all to find out whose requests for sponsorship
> > have gone unnoticed in a practical way, which I think is important.
> > Using the BTS would offer this quite easily. I'd love to know how you
> > keep track of this
* Raphael Hertzog
| Fortunately, it looks like some people are more constructive than you.
| Tollef and Rune are going to look for a new "sponsor tracking system"
| this weekend.
some random notes are now available at
http://home.mihtjel.dk/~mihtjel/sponsorship/ and
http://sponsor.raw.no/
Comme
* Raphael Hertzog
| Fortunately, it looks like some people are more constructive than you.
| Tollef and Rune are going to look for a new "sponsor tracking system"
| this weekend.
some random notes are now available at
http://home.mihtjel.dk/~mihtjel/sponsorship/ and
http://sponsor.raw.no/
Comm
On Thu, Aug 29, 2002 at 04:43:18PM +0200, Tollef Fog Heen wrote:
> * Jérôme Marant
>
> | On Thu, Aug 29, 2002 at 03:21:11PM +0200, Tollef Fog Heen wrote:
> |
> | > Then I suggest you scratch your itch without forcing everybody else to
> | > have the same itch as you.
> |
> | I want something t
On Thu, Aug 29, 2002 at 04:43:18PM +0200, Tollef Fog Heen wrote:
> * Jérôme Marant
>
> | On Thu, Aug 29, 2002 at 03:21:11PM +0200, Tollef Fog Heen wrote:
> |
> | > Then I suggest you scratch your itch without forcing everybody else to
> | > have the same itch as you.
> |
> | I want something
On 29 Aug 2002 16:43:18 +0200,
Tollef Fog Heen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> | It is a matter of practice. The one Raphaël is proposing would not
> | be annoying at all.
> For me it would, because of the amount of noise. The BTS is quite
> noisy.
I don't know why another pseudo package is neces
Le Thu, Aug 29, 2002 at 10:12:18PM +0100, Andrew Suffield écrivait:
> We've had this discussion before, on -newmaint, and other places. "Go
> and find a better idea" does not mean "Try and push the same idea on a
> different group of people".
Because you're the one who will make the ultimate decis
We've had this discussion before, on -newmaint, and other places. "Go
and find a better idea" does not mean "Try and push the same idea on a
different group of people".
And, surprise surprise, there's no new content this time around.
On Thu, Aug 29, 2002 at 04:41:47PM +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote
On 29 Aug 2002 16:43:18 +0200,
Tollef Fog Heen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> | It is a matter of practice. The one Raphaël is proposing would not
> | be annoying at all.
> For me it would, because of the amount of noise. The BTS is quite
> noisy.
I don't know why another pseudo package is nece
Le Thu, Aug 29, 2002 at 10:12:18PM +0100, Andrew Suffield écrivait:
> We've had this discussion before, on -newmaint, and other places. "Go
> and find a better idea" does not mean "Try and push the same idea on a
> different group of people".
Because you're the one who will make the ultimate deci
We've had this discussion before, on -newmaint, and other places. "Go
and find a better idea" does not mean "Try and push the same idea on a
different group of people".
And, surprise surprise, there's no new content this time around.
On Thu, Aug 29, 2002 at 04:41:47PM +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrot
On Thu, Aug 29, 2002 at 03:05:52PM +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
> It's not a real concern anyway, since the BTS is not meant to contact
> someone directly but more to keep a record of what's going on.
It bothers me that if you e-mail the bug report you won't reach a
responsible person (either or
On Thu, Aug 29, 2002 at 02:59:54PM +0200, Jérôme Marant wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 29, 2002 at 01:49:29PM +0100, Mark Brown wrote:
> > Remember that with a BTS based solution the e-mails aren't going to miss
> > either you or the person being sponsored by default and there's no
> > particular reason why
On Thu, Aug 29, 2002 at 03:05:52PM +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
> It's not a real concern anyway, since the BTS is not meant to contact
> someone directly but more to keep a record of what's going on.
It bothers me that if you e-mail the bug report you won't reach a
responsible person (either o
* Jérôme Marant
| On Thu, Aug 29, 2002 at 03:21:11PM +0200, Tollef Fog Heen wrote:
|
| > Then I suggest you scratch your itch without forcing everybody else to
| > have the same itch as you.
|
| I want something that you don't need. Then, I win.
|
| 'Tell me what you need and I'll tell you
Le Thu, Aug 29, 2002 at 03:27:17PM +0200, Tollef Fog Heen écrivait:
> | That's why I want us to switch to use the BTS.
>
> This is usually called shotgun debugging. Try another solution until
> you find one which fits. Obviously, this is not a good way to debug
> problems.
Well, I have reasons
On Thu, Aug 29, 2002 at 02:59:54PM +0200, Jérôme Marant wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 29, 2002 at 01:49:29PM +0100, Mark Brown wrote:
> > Remember that with a BTS based solution the e-mails aren't going to miss
> > either you or the person being sponsored by default and there's no
> > particular reason wh
On Thu, 2002-08-29 at 13:59, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
> You don't know if the current system works well enough (neither do I).
> Do you know if all sponsoree find a sponsor ?
They don't.
I recently though about packaging a program called metacity-setup. There
was an open RFP, so I thought no develop
On Thu, Aug 29, 2002 at 03:22:37PM +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
> Le Tue, Aug 27, 2002 at 12:16:11PM -0300, Leo Costela écrivait:
> > (again, I obviously don't), but you could be more concise and just make
> > up a list of Pro's and Con's for each system, then we could stand on
>
> Duh, the vario
On Thu, Aug 29, 2002 at 03:21:11PM +0200, Tollef Fog Heen wrote:
> * Jérôme Marant
>
> | On Thu, Aug 29, 2002 at 02:00:40PM +0200, Tollef Fog Heen wrote:
> |
> | > So, even though you might know stuff about sponsorship, you do not own
> | > the term. What I (and it seems a lot of other people) t
* Raphael Hertzog
| And I'm going to push the BTS as long as nobody provides me
| another working replacement to the current CGI.
How about scratching your own itch instead of forcing everybody else
to have the same itch _and_ scratch yours?
--
Tollef Fog Heen
* Raphael Hertzog
| Le Thu, Aug 29, 2002 at 02:00:40PM +0200, Tollef Fog Heen écrivait:
|
| > Most of my sponsorees haven't come from the CGI of yours, but from
| > this list, or #debian-devel.
|
| I know that. I observe myself that the CGI is most of the time out of
| touch with the reality. Th
Le Tue, Aug 27, 2002 at 12:16:11PM -0300, Leo Costela écrivait:
> (again, I obviously don't), but you could be more concise and just make
> up a list of Pro's and Con's for each system, then we could stand on
Duh, the various arguments have been given numerous times already.
I'll sum up yet anothe
* Jérôme Marant
| On Thu, Aug 29, 2002 at 02:00:40PM +0200, Tollef Fog Heen wrote:
|
| > So, even though you might know stuff about sponsorship, you do not own
| > the term. What I (and it seems a lot of other people) think is that
| > the current system works fine. At least, it works a lot bet
Le Tue, Aug 27, 2002 at 06:09:53PM +0100, Mark Brown écrivait:
> The BTS is all well and good but it isn't the answer to all our
> problems.
It's the same for all bugs (even bugs on usual packages), people learn
to CC the submitter or to use the [EMAIL PROTECTED] form. And as you
said, debian-ment
On Thu, Aug 29, 2002 at 01:49:29PM +0100, Mark Brown wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 29, 2002 at 02:11:20PM +0200, Jérôme Marant wrote:
>
> > I have a recent case of someone who NMU'ed packages of someone
> > I do sponsor but I wasn't aware of that.
>
> For things like that the PTS is probably the way t
Le Thu, Aug 29, 2002 at 02:00:40PM +0200, Tollef Fog Heen écrivait:
> Most of my sponsorees haven't come from the CGI of yours, but from
> this list, or #debian-devel.
I know that. I observe myself that the CGI is most of the time out of
touch with the reality. That's why I want to get rid of it.
On Thu, Aug 29, 2002 at 02:11:20PM +0200, Jérôme Marant wrote:
> I have a recent case of someone who NMU'ed packages of someone
> I do sponsor but I wasn't aware of that.
For things like that the PTS is probably the way to go.
> I would like an entry point for communicating with the sponso
* Jérôme Marant
| On Thu, Aug 29, 2002 at 03:21:11PM +0200, Tollef Fog Heen wrote:
|
| > Then I suggest you scratch your itch without forcing everybody else to
| > have the same itch as you.
|
| I want something that you don't need. Then, I win.
|
| 'Tell me what you need and I'll tell you
Le Thu, Aug 29, 2002 at 03:27:17PM +0200, Tollef Fog Heen écrivait:
> | That's why I want us to switch to use the BTS.
>
> This is usually called shotgun debugging. Try another solution until
> you find one which fits. Obviously, this is not a good way to debug
> problems.
Well, I have reasons
On Thu, Aug 29, 2002 at 02:00:40PM +0200, Tollef Fog Heen wrote:
> * Raphael Hertzog
>
> | I'm the guy who invented sponsorship, I'm the one who wrote the
> | sponsorhip CGI.
>
> Most of my sponsorees haven't come from the CGI of yours, but from
> this list, or #debian-devel.
>
> So, even thoug
* Raphael Hertzog
| I'm the guy who invented sponsorship, I'm the one who wrote the
| sponsorhip CGI.
Most of my sponsorees haven't come from the CGI of yours, but from
this list, or #debian-devel.
So, even though you might know stuff about sponsorship, you do not own
the term. What I (and it
On Thu, 2002-08-29 at 13:59, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
> You don't know if the current system works well enough (neither do I).
> Do you know if all sponsoree find a sponsor ?
They don't.
I recently though about packaging a program called metacity-setup. There
was an open RFP, so I thought no develo
On Thu, Aug 29, 2002 at 03:22:37PM +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
> Le Tue, Aug 27, 2002 at 12:16:11PM -0300, Leo Costela écrivait:
> > (again, I obviously don't), but you could be more concise and just make
> > up a list of Pro's and Con's for each system, then we could stand on
>
> Duh, the vari
On Thu, Aug 29, 2002 at 03:21:11PM +0200, Tollef Fog Heen wrote:
> * Jérôme Marant
>
> | On Thu, Aug 29, 2002 at 02:00:40PM +0200, Tollef Fog Heen wrote:
> |
> | > So, even though you might know stuff about sponsorship, you do not own
> | > the term. What I (and it seems a lot of other people)
* Raphael Hertzog
| And I'm going to push the BTS as long as nobody provides me
| another working replacement to the current CGI.
How about scratching your own itch instead of forcing everybody else
to have the same itch _and_ scratch yours?
--
Tollef Fog Heen
* Raphael Hertzog
| Le Thu, Aug 29, 2002 at 02:00:40PM +0200, Tollef Fog Heen écrivait:
|
| > Most of my sponsorees haven't come from the CGI of yours, but from
| > this list, or #debian-devel.
|
| I know that. I observe myself that the CGI is most of the time out of
| touch with the reality. T
Le Tue, Aug 27, 2002 at 12:16:11PM -0300, Leo Costela écrivait:
> (again, I obviously don't), but you could be more concise and just make
> up a list of Pro's and Con's for each system, then we could stand on
Duh, the various arguments have been given numerous times already.
I'll sum up yet anoth
* Jérôme Marant
| On Thu, Aug 29, 2002 at 02:00:40PM +0200, Tollef Fog Heen wrote:
|
| > So, even though you might know stuff about sponsorship, you do not own
| > the term. What I (and it seems a lot of other people) think is that
| > the current system works fine. At least, it works a lot be
Le Tue, Aug 27, 2002 at 06:09:53PM +0100, Mark Brown écrivait:
> The BTS is all well and good but it isn't the answer to all our
> problems.
It's the same for all bugs (even bugs on usual packages), people learn
to CC the submitter or to use the [EMAIL PROTECTED] form. And as you
said, debian-men
On Thu, Aug 29, 2002 at 01:49:29PM +0100, Mark Brown wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 29, 2002 at 02:11:20PM +0200, Jérôme Marant wrote:
>
> > I have a recent case of someone who NMU'ed packages of someone
> > I do sponsor but I wasn't aware of that.
>
> For things like that the PTS is probably the way
Le Thu, Aug 29, 2002 at 02:00:40PM +0200, Tollef Fog Heen écrivait:
> Most of my sponsorees haven't come from the CGI of yours, but from
> this list, or #debian-devel.
I know that. I observe myself that the CGI is most of the time out of
touch with the reality. That's why I want to get rid of it.
On Thu, Aug 29, 2002 at 02:11:20PM +0200, Jérôme Marant wrote:
> I have a recent case of someone who NMU'ed packages of someone
> I do sponsor but I wasn't aware of that.
For things like that the PTS is probably the way to go.
> I would like an entry point for communicating with the spons
On Thu, Aug 29, 2002 at 02:00:40PM +0200, Tollef Fog Heen wrote:
> * Raphael Hertzog
>
> | I'm the guy who invented sponsorship, I'm the one who wrote the
> | sponsorhip CGI.
>
> Most of my sponsorees haven't come from the CGI of yours, but from
> this list, or #debian-devel.
>
> So, even thou
* Raphael Hertzog
| I'm the guy who invented sponsorship, I'm the one who wrote the
| sponsorhip CGI.
Most of my sponsorees haven't come from the CGI of yours, but from
this list, or #debian-devel.
So, even though you might know stuff about sponsorship, you do not own
the term. What I (and it
On Mon, Aug 26, 2002 at 04:40:51PM +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
> That's why I went away and requested what's necessary :
> http://bugs.debian.org/151949
> Unfortunately, Anthony Towns doesn't agree with me because some IRCers
> misinterpreted the last thread about it.
No, I'm pretty sure there
Le Tue, Aug 27, 2002 at 05:31:20PM +0200, Rune B. Broberg écrivait:
> You are the person trying to change something, you should prove your
> point, instead of worrying about people not proving why this should not
> be established.
I'm the guy who invented sponsorship, I'm the one who wrote the
spo
On Tue, Aug 27, 2002 at 01:51:59PM +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
> You don't proove anything neither ...
You are the person trying to change something, you should prove your
point, instead of worrying about people not proving why this should not
be established.
At least, please try to summarize
On Tue, 2002-08-27 at 10:31, Peter Palfrader wrote:
> > But aj is using people like you to tell me "you have no consensus, I
> > won't create what you want" ... sorry, but by beeing unconstructive
> > here, you just block my work.
>
> Sorry, I had the impression you asked for opinions on the subje
On Mon, Aug 26, 2002 at 04:40:51PM +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
> That's why I went away and requested what's necessary :
> http://bugs.debian.org/151949
> Unfortunately, Anthony Towns doesn't agree with me because some IRCers
> misinterpreted the last thread about it.
No, I'm pretty sure ther
On Tue, 27 Aug 2002, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
> > benefits are real and obvious does not really convince me. OTOH you
> > don't need to convince me, I have no special priviliges anyway.
>
> But aj is using people like you to tell me "you have no consensus, I
> won't create what you want" ... sorry
Le Tue, Aug 27, 2002 at 05:31:20PM +0200, Rune B. Broberg écrivait:
> You are the person trying to change something, you should prove your
> point, instead of worrying about people not proving why this should not
> be established.
I'm the guy who invented sponsorship, I'm the one who wrote the
sp
On Tue, Aug 27, 2002 at 01:51:59PM +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
> You don't proove anything neither ...
You are the person trying to change something, you should prove your
point, instead of worrying about people not proving why this should not
be established.
At least, please try to summarize
On Tue, 2002-08-27 at 10:31, Peter Palfrader wrote:
> > But aj is using people like you to tell me "you have no consensus, I
> > won't create what you want" ... sorry, but by beeing unconstructive
> > here, you just block my work.
>
> Sorry, I had the impression you asked for opinions on the subj
Le Tue, Aug 27, 2002 at 01:05:31PM +0200, Stefano Zacchiroli écrivait:
> It's not bad, is an hack. Fullfill our need but isn't the right place.
It's a smart hack. As is the "ftp.debian.org" or "lists.debian.org"
pseudo-package ...
> This has also a drawback: reconstructing history of threads betw
Le Tue, Aug 27, 2002 at 01:12:46PM +0200, Peter Palfrader écrivait:
> > Sorry, you're just unconstructive... what overhead
>
> The overhead of managing the bug.
It's not your work, but the sponsoree work. And managing the bug is not
harder for the sponsoree than managing its CGI entry or anything
On Tue, Aug 27, 2002 at 01:12:46PM +0200, Peter Palfrader wrote:
> On Tue, 27 Aug 2002, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
>
> > Le Tue, Aug 27, 2002 at 07:21:35AM +0200, Peter Palfrader écrivait:
> > > On Mon, 26 Aug 2002, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
> > >
> > > > Also, if you realize a bit, mailing the BTS mean
On Tue, 27 Aug 2002, Colin Watson wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 27, 2002 at 07:21:35AM +0200, Peter Palfrader wrote:
> > On Mon, 26 Aug 2002, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
> > > Also, if you realize a bit, mailing the BTS means mailing debian-mentors
> > > as a side effect since debian-mentors is the maintainer o
> > This just means that you never installed a BTS yourself ... :-)
>
> Surely, this is probably my major fault in this discussion ... I was
> supposing that start up a new BTS is an easy task, if this is not the
> case, never mind.
It is not that hard but it is not needed. Virtual packages are e
On Tue, 27 Aug 2002, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
> Le Tue, Aug 27, 2002 at 07:21:35AM +0200, Peter Palfrader écrivait:
> > On Mon, 26 Aug 2002, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
> >
> > > Also, if you realize a bit, mailing the BTS means mailing debian-mentors
> > > as a side effect since debian-mentors is the m
On Tue, 27 Aug 2002, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
> > benefits are real and obvious does not really convince me. OTOH you
> > don't need to convince me, I have no special priviliges anyway.
>
> But aj is using people like you to tell me "you have no consensus, I
> won't create what you want" ... sorr
On Tue, Aug 27, 2002 at 12:48:20PM +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
> Why is it bad ? It does fullfull our needs ... you recognize it
> yourself. That's enough to start using it.
It's not bad, is an hack. Fullfill our need but isn't the right place.
Anyway, yes, it's enough to start using it, but ...
Le Tue, Aug 27, 2002 at 07:21:35AM +0200, Peter Palfrader écrivait:
> On Mon, 26 Aug 2002, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
>
> > Also, if you realize a bit, mailing the BTS means mailing debian-mentors
> > as a side effect since debian-mentors is the maintainer of the
> > sponsorship entry. We have the bes
Le Tue, Aug 27, 2002 at 09:55:45AM +0200, Stefano Zacchiroli écrivait:
> IMO a BTS based approach is a nice idea expecially for the availability
> of history (usefull for the AM) and (even if less important) because
> it's more 'official' than the current CGI approach to my eyes.
>
> Anyway pollut
Le Tue, Aug 27, 2002 at 01:05:31PM +0200, Stefano Zacchiroli écrivait:
> It's not bad, is an hack. Fullfill our need but isn't the right place.
It's a smart hack. As is the "ftp.debian.org" or "lists.debian.org"
pseudo-package ...
> This has also a drawback: reconstructing history of threads bet
Le Tue, Aug 27, 2002 at 01:12:46PM +0200, Peter Palfrader écrivait:
> > Sorry, you're just unconstructive... what overhead
>
> The overhead of managing the bug.
It's not your work, but the sponsoree work. And managing the bug is not
harder for the sponsoree than managing its CGI entry or anythin
On Tue, Aug 27, 2002 at 01:12:46PM +0200, Peter Palfrader wrote:
> On Tue, 27 Aug 2002, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
>
> > Le Tue, Aug 27, 2002 at 07:21:35AM +0200, Peter Palfrader écrivait:
> > > On Mon, 26 Aug 2002, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
> > >
> > > > Also, if you realize a bit, mailing the BTS mea
On Tue, 27 Aug 2002, Colin Watson wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 27, 2002 at 07:21:35AM +0200, Peter Palfrader wrote:
> > On Mon, 26 Aug 2002, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
> > > Also, if you realize a bit, mailing the BTS means mailing debian-mentors
> > > as a side effect since debian-mentors is the maintainer
> > This just means that you never installed a BTS yourself ... :-)
>
> Surely, this is probably my major fault in this discussion ... I was
> supposing that start up a new BTS is an easy task, if this is not the
> case, never mind.
It is not that hard but it is not needed. Virtual packages are
On Tue, 27 Aug 2002, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
> Le Tue, Aug 27, 2002 at 07:21:35AM +0200, Peter Palfrader écrivait:
> > On Mon, 26 Aug 2002, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
> >
> > > Also, if you realize a bit, mailing the BTS means mailing debian-mentors
> > > as a side effect since debian-mentors is the
On Tue, Aug 27, 2002 at 07:21:35AM +0200, Peter Palfrader wrote:
> On Mon, 26 Aug 2002, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
> > Also, if you realize a bit, mailing the BTS means mailing debian-mentors
> > as a side effect since debian-mentors is the maintainer of the
> > sponsorship entry. We have the best of b
On Tue, Aug 27, 2002 at 12:48:20PM +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
> Why is it bad ? It does fullfull our needs ... you recognize it
> yourself. That's enough to start using it.
It's not bad, is an hack. Fullfill our need but isn't the right place.
Anyway, yes, it's enough to start using it, but ..
Le Tue, Aug 27, 2002 at 07:21:35AM +0200, Peter Palfrader écrivait:
> On Mon, 26 Aug 2002, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
>
> > Also, if you realize a bit, mailing the BTS means mailing debian-mentors
> > as a side effect since debian-mentors is the maintainer of the
> > sponsorship entry. We have the be
Le Tue, Aug 27, 2002 at 09:55:45AM +0200, Stefano Zacchiroli écrivait:
> IMO a BTS based approach is a nice idea expecially for the availability
> of history (usefull for the AM) and (even if less important) because
> it's more 'official' than the current CGI approach to my eyes.
>
> Anyway pollu
On Mon, Aug 26, 2002 at 04:40:51PM +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
> If you agree with me, please send a mail to the bug log so that
> aj can be convinced (just use reply all to this mail). If you don't
> agree, feel free to voice you opinion and justify your position.
I will not cc the bug report,
On Tue, Aug 27, 2002 at 07:21:35AM +0200, Peter Palfrader wrote:
> On Mon, 26 Aug 2002, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
> > Also, if you realize a bit, mailing the BTS means mailing debian-mentors
> > as a side effect since debian-mentors is the maintainer of the
> > sponsorship entry. We have the best of
On Mon, Aug 26, 2002 at 04:40:51PM +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
> If you agree with me, please send a mail to the bug log so that
> aj can be convinced (just use reply all to this mail). If you don't
> agree, feel free to voice you opinion and justify your position.
I will not cc the bug report,
On Mon, 26 Aug 2002, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
> Also, if you realize a bit, mailing the BTS means mailing debian-mentors
> as a side effect since debian-mentors is the maintainer of the
> sponsorship entry. We have the best of both world.
We have the overhead of the BTS with no gain (imho) at all.
On Mon, 26 Aug 2002, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
> Also, if you realize a bit, mailing the BTS means mailing debian-mentors
> as a side effect since debian-mentors is the maintainer of the
> sponsorship entry. We have the best of both world.
We have the overhead of the BTS with no gain (imho) at all.
On Mon, Aug 26, 2002 at 05:18:29PM -0300, Leo Costela wrote:
> We could use another tag to the wnpp pseudo-package, like RFS (Request
> For Sponsor), wich would be a second step, after an ITP has been filled
> by a New Maintainer...
How about just adding 'tags n +help' to an ITP?
would that h
On Mon, 2002-08-26 at 16:45, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
> The BTS is to keep track of who request uploads of each package. A mail
> is so easily forgotten in debian-mentors ... and the web archive of the
> list is really not useful at all.
I agree with finding a BTS solution to the yet informal way sp
Le Mon, Aug 26, 2002 at 07:38:17PM +0200, Peter Palfrader écrivait:
> I disagree. I don't see how this could work. FWIW I sponsor single
> uploads of single packages. People seeking sponsors should mail to
> -mentors. a BTS is not needed.
The BTS is to keep track of who request uploads of each pac
On Mon, Aug 26, 2002 at 05:18:29PM -0300, Leo Costela wrote:
> We could use another tag to the wnpp pseudo-package, like RFS (Request
> For Sponsor), wich would be a second step, after an ITP has been filled
> by a New Maintainer...
How about just adding 'tags n +help' to an ITP?
would that
On Mon, 2002-08-26 at 16:45, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
> The BTS is to keep track of who request uploads of each package. A mail
> is so easily forgotten in debian-mentors ... and the web archive of the
> list is really not useful at all.
I agree with finding a BTS solution to the yet informal way s
On Mon, 26 Aug 2002, Filip Van Raemdonck wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 26, 2002 at 04:40:51PM +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
> >
> > If you agree with me, please send a mail to the bug log so that
> > aj can be convinced (just use reply all to this mail). If you don't
> > agree, feel free to voice you opin
Le Mon, Aug 26, 2002 at 07:38:17PM +0200, Peter Palfrader écrivait:
> I disagree. I don't see how this could work. FWIW I sponsor single
> uploads of single packages. People seeking sponsors should mail to
> -mentors. a BTS is not needed.
The BTS is to keep track of who request uploads of each pa
On Mon, Aug 26, 2002 at 04:40:51PM +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
>
> If you agree with me, please send a mail to the bug log so that
> aj can be convinced (just use reply all to this mail). If you don't
> agree, feel free to voice you opinion and justify your position.
I do agree.
In #151949 Rap
On Mon, 26 Aug 2002, Filip Van Raemdonck wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 26, 2002 at 04:40:51PM +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
> >
> > If you agree with me, please send a mail to the bug log so that
> > aj can be convinced (just use reply all to this mail). If you don't
> > agree, feel free to voice you opi
On Mon, Aug 26, 2002 at 04:40:51PM +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
>
> If you agree with me, please send a mail to the bug log so that
> aj can be convinced (just use reply all to this mail). If you don't
> agree, feel free to voice you opinion and justify your position.
I do agree.
In #151949 Ra
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