On Tue, Mar 14, 2006 at 12:05:21AM +0100, Michelle Konzack wrote:
> I have a script which do:
[...]
> 1) Create a directory with the source and a debian/ directors
> 2) cd into the source root to create a "pristine" package
> 3) type: tdbuildpackage --make-orig
FYI, I'm doing this now with ma
Hi Panu,
Am 2006-02-28 19:18:31, schrieb Panu Kalliokoski:
> Thank you for this explanation. Although I still have some issues with
> it, it seems I should build infrastructure for building source packages.
> (Earlier, one just needed dpkg-source -b; now it seems there must be
> some script or m
Hello Panu,
A little bit late, but was over 2 weeks not @home...
Am 2006-02-28 19:31:22, schrieb Panu Kalliokoski:
> I'm familiar with this section, but it does not say so, and it isn't
> true that native packages can't be pristine: my .tar.gz's are pristine,
> and they build native packages.
H
On Wed, Mar 01, 2006 at 04:57:15PM +, Jon Dowland wrote:
> > But when the package is native, you get to real _all_ changes in
> > changelog, so the situation is at least not worse in that case?
> It depends on if you wanted to read the `upstream' changes or not :)
> What are you currently putti
On Tue, Feb 28, 2006 at 07:41:43PM +0200, Panu Kalliokoski wrote:
> But when the package is native, you get to real _all_ changes in
> changelog, so the situation is at least not worse in that case?
It depends on if you wanted to read the `upstream' changes or not :)
What are you currently putting
I have updated these packages to build separate .orig.tar.gz and
.diff.gz sources.
Panu
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On Wed, 2006-03-01 at 09:13 +0200, Panu Kalliokoski wrote:
> It seems the only sensible way, then, because I really want to include
> the debian/ files in my real release (they contain possibly useful
> metadata, like the changelog, after all).
You would best place the changelog in the root of you
On Tue, Feb 28, 2006 at 07:32:28PM +0100, Bas Wijnen wrote:
> Oh no, please don't. You should use the same release tarball for Debian that
> you actually release. That's what "pristine source tarball" means. If you
That's what I thought, too. I just happened to think that it also
implies that
On Tue, Feb 28, 2006 at 07:55:35PM -0500, Justin Pryzby wrote:
> > Thank you for this explanation. Although I still have some issues with
> > it, it seems I should build infrastructure for building source packages.
> > (Earlier, one just needed dpkg-source -b; now it seems there must be
> > some s
On Tue, Feb 28, 2006 at 07:55:35PM -0500, Justin Pryzby wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 28, 2006 at 07:18:31PM +0200, Panu Kalliokoski wrote:
> > On Wed, Mar 01, 2006 at 03:52:04AM +1100, skaller wrote:
> > > > It's your call, but since making them non-native is not really that much
> > > > more work, I'd rec
On Tue, Feb 28, 2006 at 07:18:31PM +0200, Panu Kalliokoski wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 01, 2006 at 03:52:04AM +1100, skaller wrote:
> > > It's your call, but since making them non-native is not really that much
> > > more work, I'd recommend doing it that way.
> > However there is a reason, it is politica
On Tue, 2006-02-28 at 19:18 +0200, Panu Kalliokoski wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 01, 2006 at 03:52:04AM +1100, skaller wrote:
> > > It's your call, but since making them non-native is not really that much
> > > more work, I'd recommend doing it that way.
> > However there is a reason, it is political, it i
On Tue, Feb 28, 2006 at 08:12:45PM +0200, Panu Kalliokoski wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 28, 2006 at 06:57:38PM +0100, Bas Wijnen wrote:
> > Having the debian/ directory under version control is useful. But it
> > shouldn't be included in the tarball when you run "make dist".
>
> I've never used "make dis
On Tue, Feb 28, 2006 at 06:57:38PM +0100, Bas Wijnen wrote:
> I see what you mean. However, both from a technical point of view, and from a
> philosophical point of view, it makes sense: People who are getting your
> release tarball will not want to build a Debian package (if they did, they'd
> ge
On Tue, 2006-02-28 at 17:12 +0100, Thijs Kinkhorst wrote:
> It's your call, but since making them non-native is not really that much
> more work, I'd recommend doing it that way.
It can be quite a lot more work if you have powerful scripts
that can generate the required meta-information during t
Hi,
On Tue, Feb 28, 2006 at 07:18:31PM +0200, Panu Kalliokoski wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 01, 2006 at 03:52:04AM +1100, skaller wrote:
> Thank you for this explanation. Although I still have some issues with
> it, it seems I should build infrastructure for building source packages.
> (Earlier, one just
On Wed, 2006-03-01 at 03:52 +1100, skaller wrote:
> On Tue, 2006-02-28 at 17:12 +0100, Thijs Kinkhorst wrote:
>
> > It's your call, but since making them non-native is not really that much
> > more work, I'd recommend doing it that way.
>
> It can be quite a lot more work if you have powerful scr
On Tue, Feb 28, 2006 at 04:27:00PM +, Jon Dowland wrote:
> > Really? I've never seen such a guideline (although I admit it's been
> > a long time since I read the relevant documents). In fact, the Debian
> > Developer's Reference, section 5.4, seems to suggest that the
> > difference is purel
On Tue, Feb 28, 2006 at 05:55:13PM +0200, Panu Kalliokoski wrote:
> Really? I've never seen such a guideline (although I admit it's been
> a long time since I read the relevant documents). In fact, the Debian
> Developer's Reference, section 5.4, seems to suggest that the
> difference is purely t
On Tue, Feb 28, 2006 at 11:05:32AM -0500, Justin Pryzby wrote:
> I think the reason is that native packages can't be pristine, and
> pristine packages are preferred.
>
> http://www.us.debian.org/doc/developers-reference/ch-best-pkging-practices.en.html#s-bpp-origtargz
I'm familiar with this sec
On Wed, Mar 01, 2006 at 03:52:04AM +1100, skaller wrote:
> > It's your call, but since making them non-native is not really that much
> > more work, I'd recommend doing it that way.
> However there is a reason, it is political, it is
> relevant -- it convinced me anyhow :) I also initially
> produc
On Tue, Feb 28, 2006 at 05:55:13PM +0200, Panu Kalliokoski wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 28, 2006 at 04:32:16PM +0100, Thijs Kinkhorst wrote:
> > Native packages should ideally only be packages that have no real use
> > outside of Debian.
>
> Really? I've never seen such a guideline (although I admit it's
On Tue, Feb 28, 2006 at 04:32:16PM +0100, Thijs Kinkhorst wrote:
> Hello Panu,
>
> On Tue, 2006-02-28 at 16:05 +0200, Panu Kalliokoski wrote:
> > Where to get it:
> > http://sange.fi/~atehwa/debian/b5_2.3.dsc
> > http://sange.fi/~atehwa/debian/b5_2.3.tar.gz
> > http://sange.fi/~atehwa/debian/b5_2.
On Wed, Mar 01, 2006 at 12:09:49AM +0800, Ying-Chun Liu wrote:
> >>Native packages should ideally only be packages that have no real use
> >>outside of Debian.
[...]
> > If you could show me some document that explains whether and why
> > native packages are not preferred for software that could li
On Tue, 2006-02-28 at 17:55 +0200, Panu Kalliokoski wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 28, 2006 at 04:32:16PM +0100, Thijs Kinkhorst wrote:
> > Native packages should ideally only be packages that have no real use
> > outside of Debian.
>
> Really? I've never seen such a guideline (although I admit it's been a
Panu Kalliokoski wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 28, 2006 at 04:32:16PM +0100, Thijs Kinkhorst wrote:
>
>>Native packages should ideally only be packages that have no real use
>>outside of Debian.
>
>
> Really? I've never seen such a guideline (although I admit it's been a
> long time since I read the rel
On Tue, Feb 28, 2006 at 04:32:16PM +0100, Thijs Kinkhorst wrote:
> Native packages should ideally only be packages that have no real use
> outside of Debian.
Really? I've never seen such a guideline (although I admit it's been a
long time since I read the relevant documents). In fact, the Debian
Hello Panu,
On Tue, 2006-02-28 at 16:05 +0200, Panu Kalliokoski wrote:
> Where to get it:
> http://sange.fi/~atehwa/debian/b5_2.3.dsc
> http://sange.fi/~atehwa/debian/b5_2.3.tar.gz
> http://sange.fi/~atehwa/debian/b5_2.3_all.deb
> http://sange.fi/~atehwa/debian/b5_2.3_i386.changes
The same goes f
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