Re: Porting of non-free packages

2001-02-21 Thread Richard Braakman
On Wed, Feb 21, 2001 at 10:00:51AM -0500, Peter S Galbraith wrote: > Perhaps someone can run through a case where using bugs against > ftp.debian.org can't solve the problem? I think it would solve all problems, but the load on the archive maintainers might get too high. Imagine the situation whe

Re: Porting of non-free packages

2001-02-21 Thread Peter S Galbraith
Richard Braakman wrote: > On Tue, Feb 20, 2001 at 02:50:15PM +0900, Tomohiro KUBOTA wrote: > > There are a few solutions. > > > > - Buildd supports non-free also. (with lower priority so that > >non-free packages should not affect building of main packages... > >any idea of "lower prior

Re: Porting of non-free packages

2001-02-21 Thread Richard Braakman
On Wed, Feb 21, 2001 at 10:00:51AM -0500, Peter S Galbraith wrote: > Perhaps someone can run through a case where using bugs against > ftp.debian.org can't solve the problem? I think it would solve all problems, but the load on the archive maintainers might get too high. Imagine the situation wh

Re: Porting of non-free packages

2001-02-21 Thread Peter S Galbraith
Richard Braakman wrote: > On Tue, Feb 20, 2001 at 02:50:15PM +0900, Tomohiro KUBOTA wrote: > > There are a few solutions. > > > > - Buildd supports non-free also. (with lower priority so that > >non-free packages should not affect building of main packages... > >any idea of "lower prio

Re: Porting of non-free packages

2001-02-21 Thread Richard Braakman
On Wed, Feb 21, 2001 at 10:49:13AM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: > > This list will be different from the "Architecture:" field, which > > lists on what platforms the package can be built at all. > > Would the list ever be different from the union of the Architecture: > field and the architectures t

Re: Porting of non-free packages

2001-02-21 Thread Richard Braakman
On Wed, Feb 21, 2001 at 10:49:13AM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: > > This list will be different from the "Architecture:" field, which > > lists on what platforms the package can be built at all. > > Would the list ever be different from the union of the Architecture: > field and the architectures

Re: Porting of non-free packages

2001-02-20 Thread Anthony Towns
On Wed, Feb 21, 2001 at 12:51:13AM +0200, Richard Braakman wrote: > > - Non-free packages can be included in testing without having > >binaries for all architectures. (Since non-free is not an official > >part of Debian, this doesn't mean degrading quality of Debian.) Not having binaries

Re: Porting of non-free packages

2001-02-20 Thread Richard Braakman
On Tue, Feb 20, 2001 at 02:50:15PM +0900, Tomohiro KUBOTA wrote: > There are a few solutions. > > - Buildd supports non-free also. (with lower priority so that >non-free packages should not affect building of main packages... >any idea of "lower priority"? "after freeze" is a good idea.)

Re: Porting of non-free packages

2001-02-20 Thread Anthony Towns
On Wed, Feb 21, 2001 at 12:51:13AM +0200, Richard Braakman wrote: > > - Non-free packages can be included in testing without having > >binaries for all architectures. (Since non-free is not an official > >part of Debian, this doesn't mean degrading quality of Debian.) Not having binarie

Re: Porting of non-free packages

2001-02-20 Thread Richard Braakman
On Tue, Feb 20, 2001 at 02:50:15PM +0900, Tomohiro KUBOTA wrote: > There are a few solutions. > > - Buildd supports non-free also. (with lower priority so that >non-free packages should not affect building of main packages... >any idea of "lower priority"? "after freeze" is a good idea.

Re: Porting of non-free packages

2001-02-20 Thread Brian Russo
On Tue, Feb 20, 2001 at 02:50:15PM +0900, Tomohiro KUBOTA wrote: > Hi, > > I see. I understand the limitation of the resource. It is reasonable > that main packages have priority in such a case. definitely. > Xearth is the package I want to build now. Though it may be free in > future (with r

Re: Porting of non-free packages

2001-02-20 Thread Brian Russo
On Tue, Feb 20, 2001 at 02:50:15PM +0900, Tomohiro KUBOTA wrote: > Hi, > > I see. I understand the limitation of the resource. It is reasonable > that main packages have priority in such a case. definitely. > Xearth is the package I want to build now. Though it may be free in > future (with

Re: Porting of non-free packages

2001-02-19 Thread Tomohiro KUBOTA
Hi, At Mon, 19 Feb 2001 04:40:31 -0600, Christian T. Steigies <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What do you want to have built? Maybe I can give it a shot. Otherwise I > propose to convince the author of your package to make it free, it will be > built by the buildds then. After all, non-free is not p

Re: Porting of non-free packages

2001-02-19 Thread Tomohiro KUBOTA
Hi, At Mon, 19 Feb 2001 04:40:31 -0600, Christian T. Steigies <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What do you want to have built? Maybe I can give it a shot. Otherwise I > propose to convince the author of your package to make it free, it will be > built by the buildds then. After all, non-free is not

Re: Porting of non-free packages

2001-02-19 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Mon, Feb 19, 2001 at 11:52:54AM -0600, Christian T. Steigies wrote: > An 060, lots of RAM and HDD space and a NIC. See my potato page for some > links. You can do with an 030 or 040, but you _want_ an 060. What a pitty > that there are no vendors donating m68k hardware... Does anyone know if th

Re: Porting of non-free packages

2001-02-19 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Mon, Feb 19, 2001 at 11:52:54AM -0600, Christian T. Steigies wrote: > An 060, lots of RAM and HDD space and a NIC. See my potato page for some > links. You can do with an 030 or 040, but you _want_ an 060. What a pitty > that there are no vendors donating m68k hardware... Does anyone know if t

Re: Porting of non-free packages

2001-02-19 Thread Joe Drew
> I can't get updated versions of my packages into testing, even if I wanted > to. Of course this should have read "I can't get updated versions of my packages into testing, even though I want to."

Re: Porting of non-free packages

2001-02-19 Thread Christian T. Steigies
On Mon, Feb 19, 2001 at 06:49:24PM +0100, peter karlsson wrote: > Christian T. Steigies: > > > And you will note m68k is not the fastest arch on the world > > (allthough the nicest ;-) > > Hmm, perhaps I should dust off the Amiga 1200 that is lying in a > desktop drawer¹ doing nothing. Wonder how

Re: Porting of non-free packages

2001-02-19 Thread peter karlsson
Christian T. Steigies: > And you will note m68k is not the fastest arch on the world > (allthough the nicest ;-) Hmm, perhaps I should dust off the Amiga 1200 that is lying in a desktop drawer¹ doing nothing. Wonder how much I extra stuff I need to equip it with to get it running Debian and conne

Re: Porting of non-free packages

2001-02-19 Thread Joe Drew
On Mon, Feb 19, 2001 at 11:26:32AM -0600, Christian T. Steigies wrote: > > If not, during freeze (when presumably the buildds are less busy, once > > they've caught up), can we get access to these machines to build our > > non-free and contrib packages? > > During the freeze is before the freeze, n

Re: Porting of non-free packages

2001-02-19 Thread Christian T. Steigies
On Mon, Feb 19, 2001 at 11:45:34AM -0500, Joe Drew wrote: > On Mon, Feb 19, 2001 at 04:40:31AM -0600, Christian T. Steigies wrote: > > [...] After all, non-free is not part of debian AFAIK, > > thats why the buildds prefer to spend their time on main packages. > > This I understand; but, before re

Re: Porting of non-free packages

2001-02-19 Thread Joe Drew
On Mon, Feb 19, 2001 at 04:40:31AM -0600, Christian T. Steigies wrote: > [...] After all, non-free is not part of debian AFAIK, > thats why the buildds prefer to spend their time on main packages. This I understand; but, before releasing stable (ie during freeze), do the buildds build non-free and

Re: Porting of non-free packages

2001-02-19 Thread Joe Drew
> I can't get updated versions of my packages into testing, even if I wanted > to. Of course this should have read "I can't get updated versions of my packages into testing, even though I want to." -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contac

Re: Porting of non-free packages

2001-02-19 Thread Christian T. Steigies
On Mon, Feb 19, 2001 at 06:49:24PM +0100, peter karlsson wrote: > Christian T. Steigies: > > > And you will note m68k is not the fastest arch on the world > > (allthough the nicest ;-) > > Hmm, perhaps I should dust off the Amiga 1200 that is lying in a > desktop drawer¹ doing nothing. Wonder ho

Re: Porting of non-free packages

2001-02-19 Thread peter karlsson
Christian T. Steigies: > And you will note m68k is not the fastest arch on the world > (allthough the nicest ;-) Hmm, perhaps I should dust off the Amiga 1200 that is lying in a desktop drawer¹ doing nothing. Wonder how much I extra stuff I need to equip it with to get it running Debian and conn

Re: Porting of non-free packages

2001-02-19 Thread Joe Drew
On Mon, Feb 19, 2001 at 11:26:32AM -0600, Christian T. Steigies wrote: > > If not, during freeze (when presumably the buildds are less busy, once > > they've caught up), can we get access to these machines to build our > > non-free and contrib packages? > > During the freeze is before the freeze,

Re: Porting of non-free packages

2001-02-19 Thread Christian T. Steigies
On Mon, Feb 19, 2001 at 11:45:34AM -0500, Joe Drew wrote: > On Mon, Feb 19, 2001 at 04:40:31AM -0600, Christian T. Steigies wrote: > > [...] After all, non-free is not part of debian AFAIK, > > thats why the buildds prefer to spend their time on main packages. > > This I understand; but, before r

Re: Porting of non-free packages

2001-02-19 Thread Joe Drew
On Mon, Feb 19, 2001 at 04:40:31AM -0600, Christian T. Steigies wrote: > [...] After all, non-free is not part of debian AFAIK, > thats why the buildds prefer to spend their time on main packages. This I understand; but, before releasing stable (ie during freeze), do the buildds build non-free an

Re: Porting of non-free packages

2001-02-19 Thread Christian T. Steigies
On Sat, Feb 17, 2001 at 11:43:14AM +0900, Tomohiro KUBOTA wrote: > On which machines? The machines list web page says that > chroot is available on vore.debian.org (sparc). I used it > to build a sparc port but I could not find other chroot-available > machines. > > machines list: http://db.debi

Re: Porting of non-free packages

2001-02-19 Thread Christian T. Steigies
On Sat, Feb 17, 2001 at 11:43:14AM +0900, Tomohiro KUBOTA wrote: > On which machines? The machines list web page says that > chroot is available on vore.debian.org (sparc). I used it > to build a sparc port but I could not find other chroot-available > machines. > > machines list: http://db.deb

Re: Porting of non-free packages

2001-02-16 Thread Brian Russo
On Sat, Feb 17, 2001 at 11:43:14AM +0900, Tomohiro KUBOTA wrote: > At Fri, 16 Feb 2001 16:15:17 -1000, > Brian Russo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > However, I checked Debian machines list and found there are no > > > m68k and arm machines for "woody". How can I build packages > > > for these

Re: Porting of non-free packages

2001-02-16 Thread Tomohiro KUBOTA
Hi, At Fri, 16 Feb 2001 16:15:17 -1000, Brian Russo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > However, I checked Debian machines list and found there are no > > m68k and arm machines for "woody". How can I build packages > > for these architectures? > > I thought there were chroot's available? On which m

Re: Porting of non-free packages

2001-02-16 Thread Brian Russo
On Sat, Feb 17, 2001 at 02:05:07AM +0900, Tomohiro KUBOTA wrote: > Thank you. I built packages for powerpc and sparc. Thus, now > xearth has packages for i386, alpha, powerpc, and sparc. > > However, I checked Debian machines list and found there are no > m68k and arm machines for "woody". How

Re: Porting of non-free packages

2001-02-16 Thread Brian Russo
On Sat, Feb 17, 2001 at 11:43:14AM +0900, Tomohiro KUBOTA wrote: > At Fri, 16 Feb 2001 16:15:17 -1000, > Brian Russo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > However, I checked Debian machines list and found there are no > > > m68k and arm machines for "woody". How can I build packages > > > for these

Re: Porting of non-free packages

2001-02-16 Thread Tomohiro KUBOTA
Hi, At Fri, 16 Feb 2001 16:15:17 -1000, Brian Russo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > However, I checked Debian machines list and found there are no > > m68k and arm machines for "woody". How can I build packages > > for these architectures? > > I thought there were chroot's available? On which

Re: Porting of non-free packages

2001-02-16 Thread Brian Russo
On Sat, Feb 17, 2001 at 02:05:07AM +0900, Tomohiro KUBOTA wrote: > Thank you. I built packages for powerpc and sparc. Thus, now > xearth has packages for i386, alpha, powerpc, and sparc. > > However, I checked Debian machines list and found there are no > m68k and arm machines for "woody". How

Re: Porting of non-free packages

2001-02-16 Thread Peter S Galbraith
Ben Collins wrote: > On Fri, Feb 16, 2001 at 05:24:56PM +0900, Tomohiro KUBOTA wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I uploaded a non-free package xearth at the end of last year for unstable. > > I uploaded source and binary for i386. However, I cannot see any binaries > > for other than alpha and i386 in the

Re: Porting of non-free packages

2001-02-16 Thread Tomohiro KUBOTA
Hi, At Fri, 16 Feb 2001 08:46:05 -0500, Ben Collins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Most autobuilders do not build for non-free, simply because they like to > keep things prinstine for main. If you want to build your package for > other archs, check the machines listing and login using your Debian >

Re: Porting of non-free packages

2001-02-16 Thread Peter S Galbraith
Ben Collins wrote: > On Fri, Feb 16, 2001 at 05:24:56PM +0900, Tomohiro KUBOTA wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I uploaded a non-free package xearth at the end of last year for unstable. > > I uploaded source and binary for i386. However, I cannot see any binaries > > for other than alpha and i386 in th

Re: Porting of non-free packages

2001-02-16 Thread Tomohiro KUBOTA
Hi, At Fri, 16 Feb 2001 08:46:05 -0500, Ben Collins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Most autobuilders do not build for non-free, simply because they like to > keep things prinstine for main. If you want to build your package for > other archs, check the machines listing and login using your Debian

Re: Porting of non-free packages

2001-02-16 Thread Ben Collins
On Fri, Feb 16, 2001 at 05:24:56PM +0900, Tomohiro KUBOTA wrote: > Hi, > > I uploaded a non-free package xearth at the end of last year for unstable. > I uploaded source and binary for i386. However, I cannot see any binaries > for other than alpha and i386 in the package pool so far. > > Are th

Re: Porting of non-free packages

2001-02-16 Thread Ben Collins
On Fri, Feb 16, 2001 at 05:24:56PM +0900, Tomohiro KUBOTA wrote: > Hi, > > I uploaded a non-free package xearth at the end of last year for unstable. > I uploaded source and binary for i386. However, I cannot see any binaries > for other than alpha and i386 in the package pool so far. > > Are t