Re: Please try expo.debian.net -- a replacement for mentors.debian.net

2011-07-27 Thread Andrea Bolognani
On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 11:08:40PM +0200, Kilian Krause wrote: > Thus neither document too > publically how we do it nor what the exact internal versions are. I don’t think security through obscurity is acceptable on Debian infrastructure. -- Andrea Bolognani Resistance is futile, you will be

Re: Please try expo.debian.net -- a replacement for mentors.debian.net

2011-07-27 Thread Fabrizio Regalli
On Wed, 2011-07-27 at 22:10 +0600, Andrey Rahmatullin wrote: > Well, links to the policy and maint-guide won't hurt. Ok, maybe the links are better solution and add them are quite easy. Cheers, Fabrizio. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Re: Please try expo.debian.net -- a replacement for mentors.debian.net

2011-07-27 Thread Andrey Rahmatullin
On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 05:41:37PM +0200, benoît tuduri wrote: > I have seen this notice on the website for dput command, thanks :) . > But after dput, may be explain the process ? Both, briefly the before > debexpo uploading workflow ? Imo, to have a little tuto on packaging Do you mean the proces

Re: Please try expo.debian.net -- a replacement for mentors.debian.net

2011-07-27 Thread Andrey Rahmatullin
On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 05:53:48PM +0200, Fabrizio Regalli wrote: > > But after dput, may be explain the process ? Both, briefly the before > > debexpo uploading workflow ? Imo, to have a little tuto on packaging > > on this website will be great. :) > Really? I think there are many documents on ho

Re: Please try expo.debian.net -- a replacement for mentors.debian.net

2011-07-27 Thread Andrew Starr-Bochicchio
On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 4:42 AM, Arno Töll wrote: > > That said, the realization mostly suffers from the fact, there is no > software available to do this on the software side, as Launchpad is not > free software, and usable alternatives don't exist. > Launchpad is most certainly free software (t

Re: Please try expo.debian.net -- a replacement for mentors.debian.net

2011-07-27 Thread Fabrizio Regalli
On Wed, 2011-07-27 at 17:41 +0200, benoît tuduri wrote: > Hi Fabrizio, > > I have seen this notice on the website for dput command, thanks :) . You are welcome :-) > But after dput, may be explain the process ? Both, briefly the before > debexpo uploading workflow ? Imo, to have a little tuto on

Re: Please try expo.debian.net -- a replacement for mentors.debian.net

2011-07-27 Thread benoît tuduri
Le 27 juillet 2011 17:41, benoît tuduri a écrit : > Hi Fabrizio, > > I have seen this notice on the website for dput command, thanks :) . > But after dput, may be explain the process ? Both, briefly the before > debexpo uploading workflow ? Imo, to have a little tuto on packaging > on this website

Re: Please try expo.debian.net -- a replacement for mentors.debian.net

2011-07-27 Thread benoît tuduri
Hi Fabrizio, I have seen this notice on the website for dput command, thanks :) . But after dput, may be explain the process ? Both, briefly the before debexpo uploading workflow ? Imo, to have a little tuto on packaging or Le 27 juillet 2011 17:27, Fabrizio Regalli a écrit : > Hi Benoît, > > On

Re: Please try expo.debian.net -- a replacement for mentors.debian.net

2011-07-27 Thread Fabrizio Regalli
Hi Benoît, On Wed, 2011-07-27 at 17:19 +0200, benoît tuduri wrote: > A beginner like me, the main stuff will be to have a > short text which explain how to upload your package on expo platform It's already done: "You need to use dput to upload packages. See your account page to see how to confi

Re: Please try expo.debian.net -- a replacement for mentors.debian.net

2011-07-27 Thread benoît tuduri
Hello Asheesh, Before all, thanks you for this information and your work :) . The web design is nice ! A beginner like me, the main stuff will be to have a short text which explain how to upload your package on expo platform and a short reminder on the packaging process. I know this documents are

Re: Please try expo.debian.net -- a replacement for mentors.debian.net

2011-07-27 Thread Arno Töll
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Pietro, On 27.07.2011 09:12, Pietro Battiston wrote: > in fact there is no hope that we are going to have something like > Ubuntu's PPAs for Debian? > Is this because of a "political" choice, or technical mess of doing > builds? this was heavily d

Re: Please try expo.debian.net -- a replacement for mentors.debian.net

2011-07-27 Thread Asheesh Laroia
On Wed, 27 Jul 2011, Julian Mehnle wrote: Asheesh Laroia wrote: If there are any others, let me know. Otherwise, about 24 hours from now, I plan to ask signum if we can turn mentors.debian.net off, and make it a debexpo instance. That will mean losing the existing uploaded packages. But I thi

Re: Please try expo.debian.net -- a replacement for mentors.debian.net

2011-07-27 Thread Pietro Battiston
Il giorno mar, 26/07/2011 alle 15.38 -0400, Asheesh Laroia ha scritto: > On Tue, 26 Jul 2011, Julien Valroff wrote: > > As from the maintainer "personal package archive" page, I understand > > that binary packages will be made publicly available? The page states > > 'deb ...' entries in sources.l

Re: Please try expo.debian.net -- a replacement for mentors.debian.net

2011-07-26 Thread Julian Mehnle
Asheesh Laroia wrote: > If there are any others, let me know. Otherwise, about 24 hours from > now, I plan to ask signum if we can turn mentors.debian.net off, and > make it a debexpo instance. > > That will mean losing the existing uploaded packages. But I think > that's not such a huge loss. Do

Re: Please try expo.debian.net -- a replacement for mentors.debian.net

2011-07-26 Thread Ben Finney
Asheesh Laroia writes: > Otherwise, about 24 hours from now, I plan to ask signum if we can > turn mentors.debian.net off, and make it a debexpo instance. Gak! I didn't realise the proposal was for existing mentors.debian.net service to be replaced immediately. In that case, please ensure existi

Re: Please try expo.debian.net -- a replacement for mentors.debian.net

2011-07-26 Thread Ben Finney
Asheesh Laroia writes: > 2) Integrate OpenID logins, so you can use existing credentials (e.g. > Google Account, your own personal OpenID, This would be the option I'd most like to see, for the reason you give: it allows a huge number of existing identities, including identities managed by the p

Re: Please try expo.debian.net -- a replacement for mentors.debian.net

2011-07-26 Thread Asheesh Laroia
On Tue, 26 Jul 2011, Asheesh Laroia wrote: * Please tell me if there are features we need before it can replace mentors.debian.net. Arno found one showstopper bug, and I just fixed it. If there are any others, let me know. Otherwise, about 24 hours from now, I plan to ask signum if we can t

Re: Please try expo.debian.net -- a replacement for mentors.debian.net

2011-07-26 Thread Asheesh Laroia
On Wed, 27 Jul 2011, Ben Finney wrote: Asheesh Laroia writes: Debexpo is a replacement for http://mentors.debian.net/. I hereby request testers! It is of "beta" quality -- I think it works fully and has enough features to replace mentors.debian.net. Like many people, I have far too many onl

Re: Please try expo.debian.net -- a replacement for mentors.debian.net

2011-07-26 Thread Ben Finney
Asheesh Laroia writes: > Debexpo is a replacement for http://mentors.debian.net/. I hereby > request testers! It is of "beta" quality -- I think it works fully and > has enough features to replace mentors.debian.net. Like many people, I have far too many online credentials already. Signing up to

Re: Please try expo.debian.net -- a replacement for mentors.debian.net

2011-07-26 Thread Kilian Krause
Hi Asheesh, On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 05:00:45PM -0400, Asheesh Laroia wrote: > On Tue, 26 Jul 2011, Kilian Krause wrote: [...] > >- detect whether debian/watch is there and useful > >- if so and if the version is not mangled (like ~dfsg etc.), run uscan > > --force-download in a patched version tha

Re: Please try expo.debian.net -- a replacement for mentors.debian.net

2011-07-26 Thread Asheesh Laroia
On Tue, 26 Jul 2011, Kilian Krause wrote: Hi Asheesh, On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 04:01:26PM -0400, Asheesh Laroia wrote: On Tue, 26 Jul 2011, Kilian Krause wrote: [...] * whether or not the orig.tar.gz is original How do we detect this programmatically? Thanks for taking the time to even ex

Re: Please try expo.debian.net -- a replacement for mentors.debian.net

2011-07-26 Thread Kilian Krause
Hi Jakub, On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 10:40:44PM +0200, Jakub Wilk wrote: > * Kilian Krause , 2011-07-26, 22:25: > >- detect whether debian/watch is there and useful > >- if so and if the version is not mangled (like ~dfsg etc.), run > >uscan --force-download in a patched version that does not involve

Re: Please try expo.debian.net -- a replacement for mentors.debian.net

2011-07-26 Thread Kilian Krause
Hi Arno, On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 10:34:50PM +0200, Arno Töll wrote: > On 26.07.2011 22:25, Kilian Krause wrote: > > I'm not entirely sure if we want to run get-orig-source targets to rebuild > > ~dfsg tarballs and compare them. > > I don't think, you really want to consider to run /anything/ whi

Re: Please try expo.debian.net -- a replacement for mentors.debian.net

2011-07-26 Thread Jakub Wilk
* Kilian Krause , 2011-07-26, 22:25: - detect whether debian/watch is there and useful - if so and if the version is not mangled (like ~dfsg etc.), run uscan --force-download in a patched version that does not involve uupdate or svn-update (i.e. does call any programs that an "attacker" might w

Re: Please try expo.debian.net -- a replacement for mentors.debian.net

2011-07-26 Thread Arno Töll
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Kilian, On 26.07.2011 22:25, Kilian Krause wrote: > I'm not entirely sure if we want to run get-orig-source targets to rebuild > ~dfsg tarballs and compare them. I don't think, you really want to consider to run /anything/ which has been supplied

Re: Please try expo.debian.net -- a replacement for mentors.debian.net

2011-07-26 Thread Kilian Krause
Hi Asheesh, On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 04:01:26PM -0400, Asheesh Laroia wrote: > On Tue, 26 Jul 2011, Kilian Krause wrote: [...] > >* whether or not the orig.tar.gz is original > > How do we detect this programmatically? Thanks for taking the time to even explain that detailled how to get the code

Re: Please try expo.debian.net -- a replacement for mentors.debian.net

2011-07-26 Thread Niels Thykier
On 2011-07-26 22:01, Asheesh Laroia wrote: > On Tue, 26 Jul 2011, Kilian Krause wrote: > >> [...] >> * output from lintian -IX --pedantic > > Difficulty: 0 (super easy) > > (step 0: get the latest code from git) > > Step 1: edit debexpo/plugins/lintian.py > > Right now, we call lintian like th

Re: Please try expo.debian.net -- a replacement for mentors.debian.net

2011-07-26 Thread Asheesh Laroia
On Tue, 26 Jul 2011, Kilian Krause wrote: Hi, On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 08:37:36PM +0200, Julien Valroff wrote: It may also help to know whether the package is already in Debian (with a link to packages.d.o in order to know more about the history of the uploads) or if it is a new package. pack

Re: Please try expo.debian.net -- a replacement for mentors.debian.net

2011-07-26 Thread Asheesh Laroia
On Tue, 26 Jul 2011, Julien Valroff wrote: Hi Asheesh, Le mardi 26 juil. 2011 à 19:55:00 (+0200 CEST), Asheesh Laroia a écrit : Hi all people on debian-mentors, Debexpo is a replacement for http://mentors.debian.net/. I hereby request testers! It is of "beta" quality -- I think it works fully

Re: Please try expo.debian.net -- a replacement for mentors.debian.net

2011-07-26 Thread Kilian Krause
Hi, On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 08:37:36PM +0200, Julien Valroff wrote: > It may also help to know whether the package is already in Debian (with > a link to packages.d.o in order to know more about the history of the > uploads) or if it is a new package. packages.qa.d.o please. And while we're wri

Re: Please try expo.debian.net -- a replacement for mentors.debian.net

2011-07-26 Thread Arno Töll
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Julien, On 26.07.2011 20:37, Julien Valroff wrote: > On the package details page, it would be great if URL's could be clickable > (Homepage, VCS-Browser). Also Lintian tags could be linked to their > description on lintian.d.o This issue is alread

Re: Please try expo.debian.net -- a replacement for mentors.debian.net

2011-07-26 Thread Julien Valroff
Hi Asheesh, Le mardi 26 juil. 2011 à 19:55:00 (+0200 CEST), Asheesh Laroia a écrit : > Hi all people on debian-mentors, > > Debexpo is a replacement for http://mentors.debian.net/. I hereby > request testers! It is of "beta" quality -- I think it works fully > and has enough features to replace m

Re: Please try expo.debian.net -- a replacement for mentors.debian.net

2011-07-26 Thread Arno Töll
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 26.07.2011 20:17, Kilian Krause wrote: > I think you saw already at http://expo.debian.net/package/trafficserver: > sh: uscan: command not found > > Looks like there's a path missing for your uscan test. This was fixed already, as far as I can tel

Re: Please try expo.debian.net -- a replacement for mentors.debian.net

2011-07-26 Thread Kilian Krause
Hi Asheesh, On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 01:55:00PM -0400, Asheesh Laroia wrote: > Debexpo is a replacement for http://mentors.debian.net/. I hereby > request testers! It is of "beta" quality -- I think it works fully > and has enough features to replace mentors.debian.net. that's great news! I think