Re: Open RFS lacking (further) response

2010-11-03 Thread Asheesh Laroia
On Wed, 3 Nov 2010, Charles Plessy wrote: Le Mon, Nov 01, 2010 at 11:00:23PM -0400, Asheesh Laroia a écrit : On Sun, 31 Oct 2010, Charles Plessy wrote: RFS has something similar in concept to pull requests. How about including in the RFS emails a link to the most relevant diff in the web inte

Re: Open RFS lacking (further) response

2010-11-02 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Mon, Nov 01, 2010 at 11:00:23PM -0400, Asheesh Laroia a écrit : > On Sun, 31 Oct 2010, Charles Plessy wrote: >> >> RFS has something similar in concept to pull requests. How about including in >> the RFS emails a link to the most relevant diff in the web interface of the >> VCS >> where the pac

Re: Open RFS lacking (further) response

2010-11-01 Thread Asheesh Laroia
On Sat, 30 Oct 2010, Niels Thykier wrote: On 2010-10-30 08:59, Michael Tautschnig wrote: [...] One technical question, however, remains: Could we have some list of packages that remain to be reviewed? Just telling people "please review some package" is pretty awkward... Best regards, Michael

Re: Open RFS lacking (further) response

2010-11-01 Thread Asheesh Laroia
On Sun, 31 Oct 2010, Charles Plessy wrote: Le Sat, Oct 30, 2010 at 09:59:45PM +0200, Michael Tautschnig a écrit : I think this is a superb step in the right direction; while clearly the list on mentors.debian.net, as suggested in another email in this thread, is the more comprehensive list of

Re: Open RFS lacking (further) response

2010-10-31 Thread The Fungi
On Sat, Oct 30, 2010 at 11:49:25AM +0200, Niels Thykier wrote: > Personally I believe that Noel's statement is relates to upstream, > who have their own packaging + their own little repository as > compared to upstreams like you, who also work on the Debian side. [...] Which was more or less my po

Re: Open RFS lacking (further) response

2010-10-31 Thread Michael Tautschnig
> Perhaps (hopefully) this initiative will change the culture of this > list. I'll certainly try to remember to point out when people are > ignoring non-DDs input. > Me too, probably I'll even refrain from sponsoring should I note such behavior. Best regards, Michael pgpWQgPPBsI8a.pgp Descrip

Re: Open RFS lacking (further) response

2010-10-31 Thread Paul Wise
Perhaps (hopefully) this initiative will change the culture of this list. I'll certainly try to remember to point out when people are ignoring non-DDs input. -- bye, pabs http://wiki.debian.org/PaulWise -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-mentors-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "uns

Re: Open RFS lacking (further) response

2010-10-31 Thread Scott Howard
Hello, On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 3:22 AM, Michael Tautschnig wrote: > Unfortunately, proposals such as the collaborative package review by Charles > Plessy [2] haven't caught any attention. In particular, this is a call to > people > not being DD (yet): Everyone could review packages, but it just

Re: Open RFS lacking (further) response

2010-10-31 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Sat, Oct 30, 2010 at 09:59:45PM +0200, Michael Tautschnig a écrit : > > I think this is a superb step in the right direction; while clearly the list > on > mentors.debian.net, as suggested in another email in this thread, is the more > comprehensive list of packages in need of sponsorship, thi

Re: Open RFS lacking (further) response

2010-10-30 Thread Michael Tautschnig
[...] > > I liked the idea of requesting reviews from people whose packages will get > sponsored; but I'd just ask for doing that voluntarily. I probably should have > taken the chance to ask people for doing so yesterday, maybe I'll even send > those people another email. > [...] Done as [1].

Re: Open RFS lacking (further) response

2010-10-30 Thread Michael Tautschnig
> On 2010-10-30 08:59, Michael Tautschnig wrote: > > [...] > > > > One technical question, however, remains: Could we have some list of > > packages > > that remain to be reviewed? Just telling people "please review some > > package" is > > pretty awkward... > > > > Best regards, > > Michael > >

Re: Open RFS lacking (further) response

2010-10-30 Thread Niels Thykier
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 2010-10-30 02:16, The Fungi wrote: > On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 10:44:37PM +0100, Noel David Torres Taño wrote: > [...] >> Is it always an upstream package worst than a repackaged package? > [...] > >>From what I've seen, in most cases, yes. > > I

Re: Open RFS lacking (further) response

2010-10-30 Thread George Danchev
Quoting "Michael Tautschnig" : Hi Michael, I liked the idea of requesting reviews from people whose packages will get sponsored; but I'd just ask for doing that voluntarily. I probably should have taken the chance to ask people for doing so yesterday, maybe I'll even send those people anothe

Re: Open RFS lacking (further) response

2010-10-30 Thread Niels Thykier
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 2010-10-30 08:59, Michael Tautschnig wrote: > [...] > > One technical question, however, remains: Could we have some list of packages > that remain to be reviewed? Just telling people "please review some package" > is > pretty awkward... > > Bes

Re: Open RFS lacking (further) response

2010-10-30 Thread Mònica
Hello, On Friday 29 October 2010 at 20:13:21, Noel David Torres Taño wrote: > On Viernes 29 Octubre 2010 08:34:25 Paul Wise escribió: [...] > > I think I'll also do a workshop about reviewing packages at the > > MiniDebConf in Vietnam. Does anyone think that an online workshop (IRC > > or similar)

Re: Open RFS lacking (further) response

2010-10-30 Thread Michael Tautschnig
[...] > > > > Hmm, how can we encourage non-DDs to review packages. > > > > I'm thinking it might work to offer sponsorship in exchange for > > reviews. So, a DD reviews a package from maintainer. If there are no > > blockers to the upload, the DD says, "looks good, review someone elses > > pack

Re: Open RFS lacking (further) response

2010-10-29 Thread Ben Finney
Noel David Torres Taño writes: > On Viernes 29 Octubre 2010 22:05:40 Ben Finney escribió: > > Noel David Torres Taño writes: > > > That person creates the Debian package (as he creates packages for > > > other distros) and puts it here. It is a good package of a good > > > app, and he will have

Re: Open RFS lacking (further) response

2010-10-29 Thread The Fungi
On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 10:44:37PM +0100, Noel David Torres Taño wrote: [...] > Is it always an upstream package worst than a repackaged package? [...] >From what I've seen, in most cases, yes. I am one of the guilty "one pet package" upstream authors who gets my Debian work uploaded by a graciou

Re: Open RFS lacking (further) response

2010-10-29 Thread Noel David Torres Taño
On Viernes 29 Octubre 2010 22:05:40 Ben Finney escribió: > Noel David Torres Taño writes: > > I see a small problem with this, and it is the following: imagine that > > somebody packages a useful application. He has no special interest in > > Debian, but only in that application, and it is an appl

Re: Open RFS lacking (further) response

2010-10-29 Thread Ben Finney
Noel David Torres Taño writes: > I see a small problem with this, and it is the following: imagine that > somebody packages a useful application. He has no special interest in > Debian, but only in that application, and it is an application we > consider worth enough to have in Debian. I see tha

Re: Open RFS lacking (further) response

2010-10-29 Thread Noel David Torres Taño
On Viernes 29 Octubre 2010 08:34:25 Paul Wise escribió: > On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 3:22 PM, Michael Tautschnig wrote: > > So this was the first time I dragged together such a list, and most > > probably it will already be the last time. It just takes way too much > > time and feels pretty much like

Re: Open RFS lacking (further) response

2010-10-29 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 10/29/2010 03:34 PM, Paul Wise wrote: > I think I'll also do a workshop about reviewing packages at the > MiniDebConf in Vietnam. Does anyone think that an online workshop (IRC > or similar) about package review would be helpful? > Paul, I'll try to bring my DVD cam, so we can film all works

Re: Open RFS lacking (further) response

2010-10-29 Thread Paul Wise
On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 3:22 PM, Michael Tautschnig wrote: > So this was the first time I dragged together such a list, and most probably > it > will already be the last time. It just takes way too much time and feels > pretty > much like a Sisyphus task as people just keep sending RFS with ver