Re: How to be a great Debian Developer (was Re: Question about seeking (finding) a sponsor)

2003-02-01 Thread Frank Evers
Hi Chad On Sonntag, 26. Januar 2003 23:55, Chad Miller wrote: > This is something you should do if and when you're pretty sure that > you don't want your work to be just exercise. There's nothing > wrong with packaging something just for the experience, note; you > don't have to be a package ma

Re: How to be a great Debian Developer (was Re: Question about seeking (finding) a sponsor)

2003-02-01 Thread Frank Evers
Hi Chad On Sonntag, 26. Januar 2003 23:55, Chad Miller wrote: > This is something you should do if and when you're pretty sure that > you don't want your work to be just exercise. There's nothing > wrong with packaging something just for the experience, note; you > don't have to be a package ma

Re: How to be a great Debian Developer

2003-01-29 Thread Britton
For the record, their are a lot of developers who agree absolutely with the sentiments you express here, and suggest you try to become an official DD rather than accepting the inconvenience of working always through a sponsor. Britton Kerin __ GNU GPL: "The Source will be with you... always." On

Re: How to be a great Debian Developer

2003-01-29 Thread Britton
For the record, their are a lot of developers who agree absolutely with the sentiments you express here, and suggest you try to become an official DD rather than accepting the inconvenience of working always through a sponsor. Britton Kerin __ GNU GPL: "The Source will be with you... always." On

RE: How to be a great Debian Developer

2003-01-28 Thread deFreese, Barry
@lists.debian.org' Subject: Re: How to be a great Debian Developer Hi Russell! You wrote: > One thing you could do is write a script that searches for a man page for > every binary on your system. /usr/bin and /bin binaries deserve man pages in > section 1, /usr/sbin and /sbin

Re: How to be a great Debian Developer

2003-01-28 Thread Bas Zoetekouw
Hi Russell! You wrote: > One thing you could do is write a script that searches for a man page for > every binary on your system. /usr/bin and /bin binaries deserve man pages in > section 1, /usr/sbin and /sbin binaries deserve man pages in section 8. If > you write a Perl script to search f

Re: How to be a great Debian Developer

2003-01-28 Thread Colin Watson
On Tue, Jan 28, 2003 at 01:03:11PM -0500, Stephen Gran wrote: > That's at least a start. I'm sure there must be a way to get a list of > bugs with a specific tag; e.g 'help' or 'unreproducable' that need some > help to fix, but I can't find it right now. Colin, is that possible? Not for tags in

RE: How to be a great Debian Developer

2003-01-28 Thread deFreese, Barry
quot;Technology doesn't make you less stupid; it just makes you stupid faster." Jerry Gregoire - Former CIO at Dell -Original Message- From: Bas Zoetekouw [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2003 11:35 AM To: Russell Coker Cc: deFreese, Barry; '[EMAIL PROTEC

Re: How to be a great Debian Developer

2003-01-28 Thread Bas Zoetekouw
Hi Russell! You wrote: > One thing you could do is write a script that searches for a man page for > every binary on your system. /usr/bin and /bin binaries deserve man pages in > section 1, /usr/sbin and /sbin binaries deserve man pages in section 8. If > you write a Perl script to search f

Re: How to be a great Debian Developer

2003-01-28 Thread Russell Coker
On Tue, 28 Jan 2003 17:55, deFreese, Barry wrote: > Hey I've offer to be a "slave" to Debian but no one seems to be taking me > seriously. I'll write man pages, clean up code, test, whatever, I just One thing you could do is write a script that searches for a man page for every binary on your sy

Re: How to be a great Debian Developer

2003-01-28 Thread Colin Watson
On Tue, Jan 28, 2003 at 01:03:11PM -0500, Stephen Gran wrote: > That's at least a start. I'm sure there must be a way to get a list of > bugs with a specific tag; e.g 'help' or 'unreproducable' that need some > help to fix, but I can't find it right now. Colin, is that possible? Not for tags in

Re: How to be a great Debian Developer

2003-01-28 Thread Stephen Gran
This one time, at band camp, deFreese, Barry said: > Hey I've offer to be a "slave" to Debian but no one seems to be taking > me seriously. I'll write man pages, clean up code, test, whatever, I > just need some guidance in the right direction. The way I look at it, > the more exposure I get, the

Re: How to be a great Debian Developer

2003-01-28 Thread Tom Marshall
> Unfortunately, it's hard to tell who is serious about Debian and who is, > for instance, likely to do work for a month, decide RedHat is what they > want to run at home, and never be seen again. > > A long NM process used to weed out people joining Debian on a whim > (good), but it also weede

Re: How to be a great Debian Developer

2003-01-28 Thread Russell Coker
On Tue, 28 Jan 2003 17:55, deFreese, Barry wrote: > Hey I've offer to be a "slave" to Debian but no one seems to be taking me > seriously. I'll write man pages, clean up code, test, whatever, I just One thing you could do is write a script that searches for a man page for every binary on your sy

RE: How to be a great Debian Developer

2003-01-28 Thread deFreese, Barry
ff we don't like" is a successful way of getting > anywhere. >-Original Message- >From: Chad Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2003 7:11 AM >To: Thomas Viehmann >Cc: debian-mentors >Subject: Re: How to be a great Debian Developer &

Re: How to be a great Debian Developer

2003-01-28 Thread Stephen Gran
This one time, at band camp, deFreese, Barry said: > Hey I've offer to be a "slave" to Debian but no one seems to be taking > me seriously. I'll write man pages, clean up code, test, whatever, I > just need some guidance in the right direction. The way I look at it, > the more exposure I get, the

Re: How to be a great Debian Developer

2003-01-28 Thread Tom Marshall
> Unfortunately, it's hard to tell who is serious about Debian and who is, > for instance, likely to do work for a month, decide RedHat is what they > want to run at home, and never be seen again. > > A long NM process used to weed out people joining Debian on a whim > (good), but it also weede

RE: How to be a great Debian Developer

2003-01-28 Thread deFreese, Barry
ff we don't like" is a successful way of getting > anywhere. >-Original Message- >From: Chad Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2003 7:11 AM >To: Thomas Viehmann >Cc: debian-mentors >Subject: Re: How to be a great Debian Developer &

Re: How to be a great Debian Developer

2003-01-28 Thread Chad Miller
Hi, Thomas. On Tue, Jan 28, 2003 at 08:55:32AM +0100, Thomas Viehmann wrote: > Taking your answer literally, the conclusion is that you think that debian > has enough package maintainers and the others should bother about the crums > that fall from the table that existing DDs are not interested in

Re: How to be a great Debian Developer

2003-01-28 Thread Chad Miller
Hi, Thomas. On Tue, Jan 28, 2003 at 08:55:32AM +0100, Thomas Viehmann wrote: > Taking your answer literally, the conclusion is that you think that debian > has enough package maintainers and the others should bother about the crums > that fall from the table that existing DDs are not interested in

Re: How to be a great Debian Developer

2003-01-28 Thread Russell Coker
On Tue, 28 Jan 2003 08:55, Thomas Viehmann wrote: > still left, but you should well know that a volunteer project needs to > distribute the dull jobs amongst those that are working for the main cause. That is a fair point. However you may have noticed that there are difficulties in becoming a ne

Re: How to be a great Debian Developer

2003-01-28 Thread Thomas Viehmann
Hi Chad. I did not answer to your first post for various reasons. While I thank you for your answers, I strongly disagree with some of your views to the point that I wondered why it was my package that prompted you to write about "pet-packages". Just as your advice was not only to me, please take

Re: How to be a great Debian Developer

2003-01-28 Thread Russell Coker
On Tue, 28 Jan 2003 08:55, Thomas Viehmann wrote: > still left, but you should well know that a volunteer project needs to > distribute the dull jobs amongst those that are working for the main cause. That is a fair point. However you may have noticed that there are difficulties in becoming a ne

Re: How to be a great Debian Developer

2003-01-28 Thread Thomas Viehmann
Hi Chad. I did not answer to your first post for various reasons. While I thank you for your answers, I strongly disagree with some of your views to the point that I wondered why it was my package that prompted you to write about "pet-packages". Just as your advice was not only to me, please take

Re: How to be a great Debian Developer

2003-01-28 Thread Sven Luther
On Mon, Jan 27, 2003 at 05:48:19PM -0500, Chad Miller wrote: > Let me give a personal example: I wrote a program that uses the XMLRPC > features of Advogato to edit one's diary there. People loved it. There > are about two dozen people who regularly use it. I made it into a > package, and put i

Re: How to be a great Debian Developer

2003-01-27 Thread Sven Luther
On Mon, Jan 27, 2003 at 05:48:19PM -0500, Chad Miller wrote: > Let me give a personal example: I wrote a program that uses the XMLRPC > features of Advogato to edit one's diary there. People loved it. There > are about two dozen people who regularly use it. I made it into a > package, and put i

Re: How to be a great Debian Developer

2003-01-27 Thread Matej Cepl
Russell Coker wrote: > On Mon, 27 Jan 2003 21:37, Matej Cepl wrote: > > What's so wrong with maintaing just one package? > > It's like salted peanuts. Once you have one you can't stop. ;) No, it is just other way around -- as if you couldn't get just one peanut, but you would have to read at le

Re: How to be a great Debian Developer

2003-01-27 Thread Matej Cepl
Russell Coker wrote: > On Mon, 27 Jan 2003 21:37, Matej Cepl wrote: > > What's so wrong with maintaing just one package? > > It's like salted peanuts. Once you have one you can't stop. ;) No, it is just other way around -- as if you couldn't get just one peanut, but you would have to read at le

Re: How to be a great Debian Developer

2003-01-27 Thread Bastian Kleineidam
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, Jan 27, 2003 at 10:37:29PM +0100, Russell Coker wrote: > On Mon, 27 Jan 2003 21:37, Matej Cepl wrote: > > What's so wrong with maintaing just one package? > > It's like salted peanuts. Once you have one you can't stop. ;) I second that emoti

Re: How to be a great Debian Developer

2003-01-27 Thread Chad Miller
On Mon, Jan 27, 2003 at 03:37:59PM -0500, Matej Cepl wrote: > Well, I really do not care about sexyness of my work. I have just > participated in the development of the program (actually, it is > just a script for vim), which seems to be very interesting for > me (so I hoped it may be interesting f

Re: How to be a great Debian Developer

2003-01-27 Thread Russell Coker
On Mon, 27 Jan 2003 21:37, Matej Cepl wrote: > What's so wrong with maintaing just one package? It's like salted peanuts. Once you have one you can't stop. ;) -- http://www.coker.com.au/selinux/ My NSA Security Enhanced Linux packages http://www.coker.com.au/bonnie++/ Bonnie++ hard drive be

Re: How to be a great Debian Developer

2003-01-27 Thread Bastian Kleineidam
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, Jan 27, 2003 at 10:37:29PM +0100, Russell Coker wrote: > On Mon, 27 Jan 2003 21:37, Matej Cepl wrote: > > What's so wrong with maintaing just one package? > > It's like salted peanuts. Once you have one you can't stop. ;) I second that emoti

Re: How to be a great Debian Developer

2003-01-27 Thread Chad Miller
On Mon, Jan 27, 2003 at 03:37:59PM -0500, Matej Cepl wrote: > Well, I really do not care about sexyness of my work. I have just > participated in the development of the program (actually, it is > just a script for vim), which seems to be very interesting for > me (so I hoped it may be interesting f

Re: How to be a great Debian Developer

2003-01-27 Thread Russell Coker
On Mon, 27 Jan 2003 21:37, Matej Cepl wrote: > What's so wrong with maintaing just one package? It's like salted peanuts. Once you have one you can't stop. ;) -- http://www.coker.com.au/selinux/ My NSA Security Enhanced Linux packages http://www.coker.com.au/bonnie++/ Bonnie++ hard drive be

Re: How to be a great Debian Developer

2003-01-27 Thread Matej Cepl
Chad Miller wrote: > Sure, all of these may not seem as "sexy" as uploading > a package you create, but it sure helps Debian more. Well, I really do not care about sexyness of my work. I have just participated in the development of the program (actually, it is just a script for vim), which seems t

Re: How to be a great Debian Developer

2003-01-27 Thread Matej Cepl
Chad Miller wrote: > Sure, all of these may not seem as "sexy" as uploading > a package you create, but it sure helps Debian more. Well, I really do not care about sexyness of my work. I have just participated in the development of the program (actually, it is just a script for vim), which seems t