Re: PGP and verifying ids / emails

1999-07-30 Thread Joseph Carter
On Fri, Jul 30, 1999 at 11:41:37AM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: /* * keeping -mentors for this message only, replies are likely to get even * more off-charter for that group, so don't reply there. Note I'm not * subscribed to -user, however... */ > Yes, though now that you point it

Re: PGP and verifying ids / emails

1999-07-30 Thread Joseph Carter
On Fri, Jul 30, 1999 at 08:32:23AM -0500, Jor-el wrote: > Scenery is here, wish you were beautiful. wish you were a little less (not much though) paranoid.. =p > Actually, there could be a possible reason for this if the > rejection criteria applied by the new-maintainers group is applied

Re: PGP and verifying ids / emails

1999-07-30 Thread Jor-el
Scenery is here, wish you were beautiful. On Fri, 30 Jul 1999, Joseph Carter wrote: > On Fri, Jul 30, 1999 at 01:29:35AM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > > Brian> You need to be sure that you are signing the *correct* public > > Brian> key, and not just any public key that happened to be crea

Re: PGP and verifying ids / emails

1999-07-30 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi, [cross posted to debian-user, since this has gone beyond the charter of the -mentor list] ;-) >>"Joseph" == Joseph Carter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >>"Brian" == Brian May <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Brian> So we agree. You wouldn't sign the key without checking the Brian> f

Re: PGP and verifying ids / emails

1999-07-30 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi, >>"Brian" == Brian May <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Brian> So we agree. You wouldn't sign the key without checking the Brian> fingerprint first. The idea being, if the fingerprint matches, Brian> then John Smith must have the matching private key (and not Brian> somebody else). Yes

Re: PGP and verifying ids / emails

1999-07-30 Thread Joseph Carter
On Fri, Jul 30, 1999 at 01:29:35AM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > Brian> You need to be sure that you are signing the *correct* public > Brian> key, and not just any public key that happened to be created > Brian> with "John Smith"'s id (which is publicly known). > > When I sign a key

Re: PGP and verifying ids / emails

1999-07-30 Thread Brian May
On Fri, Jul 30, 1999 at 01:29:35AM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > This is quite confused. The fingerprint is of the public key > (or else how do you check it? No one should be giving anyone a look > at the private key at all). Thats exactly what I meant. > I think you are miss

Re: PGP and verifying ids / emails

1999-07-30 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi, >>"Brian" == Brian May <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Brian> You need to be sure that you are signing the *correct* public Brian> key, and not just any public key that happened to be created Brian> with "John Smith"'s id (which is publicly known). When I sign a key, I have am standing

Re: PGP and verifying ids / emails

1999-07-30 Thread Brian May
On Thu, Jul 29, 1999 at 01:58:15AM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > Buddha> It seems that there is a missing step -- verification that I > Buddha> know "John Smith"'s private key. Without that, you are > > How can you know someone's private key? (A nit: In any case, > you don't sign a

Re: PGP and verifying ids / emails

1999-07-29 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi, >>"Buddha" == Buddha Buck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Buddha> I have the ability to generate the fingerprint on any key that I have Buddha> available to me. Therefore, if I had a public key created and signed Buddha> by "John Smith", I could in fact generate the fingerprint for that key.

Re: PGP and verifying ids / emails

1999-07-29 Thread Adam Rogoyski
On Wed, 28 Jul 1999, Jor-el wrote: > Maybe I am being unusually dense here, but what proof did you see > that the [EMAIL PROTECTED] id actually belonged to me? For all you know, it > could be the id used by Bill Gates himself, with my name tagged onto it. > Unless you look up my ISP records,

Re: PGP and verifying ids / emails (fwd)

1999-07-28 Thread Jor-el
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Adam, Your statements seem to be based on the assumption that Debian communication is the sum total of my email. Not true. I indeed use procmail, and have done so for quite sometime now, and I even venture to suggest that I might be able to teach you a t

Re: PGP and verifying ids / emails

1999-07-28 Thread Jor-el
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Send your questions to ``ASK ZIPPY'', Box 40474, San Francisco, CA 94140, USA On Wed, 28 Jul 1999, Adam Rogoyski wrote: > On Tue, 27 Jul 1999, Jor-el wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > I recently had a developer sign my PGP key, but I havent yet > > resolved in m

Re: PGP and verifying ids / emails

1999-07-28 Thread Buddha Buck
> >You are missing the point here. I met you, learned by Government > issued ID that you are, infact, Kenneth Stephen, which is the name that > appears on the pgp key who's fingerprint you gave me at our meeting. Upon > retrieving your actual public key and verifying the fingerprint, I know

Re: PGP and verifying ids / emails

1999-07-28 Thread Adam Rogoyski
On Tue, 27 Jul 1999, Jor-el wrote: > Hi, > > I recently had a developer sign my PGP key, but I havent yet > resolved in my own mind some of the points he brought up. > > I use two email ids : this one (Jor-el <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) and > another one which uses my real name, and which f

Re: PGP and verifying ids / emails (fwd)

1999-07-28 Thread Adam Rogoyski
On Tue, 27 Jul 1999, Jor-el wrote: > 3. As I pointed out in my email, if the developer in question > wasnt sure that the email id of Jor-el belonged to me, then he wouldnt be > able to sign the following id too : "Bob Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>. This is > so ridiculous, becuase it is perfec

Re: PGP and verifying ids / emails (fwd)

1999-07-27 Thread Josip Rodin
On Tue, Jul 27, 1999 at 04:14:12PM -0500, Jor-el wrote: > > You want someone to correspond with you regarding some serious things > > without you letting him know your real name? > > 1. The developer in question _does_ know my real name. > > 2. If you are talking about someone who ha

Re: PGP and verifying ids / emails (fwd)

1999-07-27 Thread Jor-el
Josip, 1. The developer in question _does_ know my real name. 2. If you are talking about someone who hasnt met me in real life, even assuming that I use my "Bob Smith" id, how in heavens name will they know that it is my real name? They have to trust the fact that there was a t

Re: PGP and verifying ids / emails (fwd)

1999-07-27 Thread Josip Rodin
On Tue, Jul 27, 1999 at 01:00:04PM -0500, Jor-el wrote: > 1. Should he have signed my PGP key if the id I sent him was "Bob Smith" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> . The "Bob Smith" tag is totally arbitrary and has less > permanance than the actual email id attached to it. If he could sign it > with the "Bob

PGP and verifying ids / emails (fwd)

1999-07-27 Thread Jor-el
[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: PGP and verifying ids / emails Hi, I recently had a developer sign my PGP key, but I havent yet resolved in my own mind some of the points he brought up. I use two email ids : this one (Jor-el <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) and another one which uses my real nam