Re: Integration of debian/ scripts in packages

2001-06-13 Thread Colin Watson
On Wed, 13 Jun 2001 at 18:05:58 +0200, Domenico Andreoli wrote: > On Tue, Jun 12, 2001 at 06:29:22PM +0100, Colin Watson wrote: > > I'm very glad to hear that work's being done on dpkg-source that should > > (if I understand it correctly) obsolete this hack. > > my i ask you what is the work on dp

Re: Integration of debian/ scripts in packages

2001-06-13 Thread Domenico Andreoli
On Tue, Jun 12, 2001 at 06:29:22PM +0100, Colin Watson wrote: [snip] > I'm very glad to hear that work's being done on dpkg-source that should > (if I understand it correctly) obsolete this hack. > my i ask you what is the work on dpkg-source you are talking about? > -- > Colin Watson

Re: Integration of debian/ scripts in packages

2001-06-13 Thread Colin Watson
On Wed, 13 Jun 2001 at 18:05:58 +0200, Domenico Andreoli wrote: > On Tue, Jun 12, 2001 at 06:29:22PM +0100, Colin Watson wrote: > > I'm very glad to hear that work's being done on dpkg-source that should > > (if I understand it correctly) obsolete this hack. > > my i ask you what is the work on d

Re: Integration of debian/ scripts in packages

2001-06-13 Thread Domenico Andreoli
On Tue, Jun 12, 2001 at 06:29:22PM +0100, Colin Watson wrote: [snip] > I'm very glad to hear that work's being done on dpkg-source that should > (if I understand it correctly) obsolete this hack. > my i ask you what is the work on dpkg-source you are talking about? > -- > Colin Watson

Re: Integration of debian/ scripts in packages

2001-06-07 Thread Michèl Alexandre Salim
--- Sam Hartman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > "Michèl" == Michèl Alexandre Salim > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > And if you come up with a clean solution for the > changelog issue, I > agree this is worth doing. If you do that, please > let me know what > your solution is. > As Richard Atter

Re: Integration of debian/ scripts in packages

2001-06-07 Thread Richard Atterer
On Mon, Jun 04, 2001 at 06:31:54PM +0100, Michèl Alexandre Salim wrote: [debian/ in upstream makes maintaining package difficult] > The reason I raise this issue in the first place is actually a > notion that it would be nice for users wanting bleeding-edge > software to update from CVS and just ru

Re: Integration of debian/ scripts in packages

2001-06-07 Thread Michèl Alexandre Salim
--- Josip Rodin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, Jun 03, 2001 at 11:40:26PM -0300, Henrique > de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > files there. Even if > > upstream keeps its debian/ up-to-date, it will > still cause you trouble if > > you have to remove a file, as you'll need to > either use dirty tr

Re: Integration of debian/ scripts in packages

2001-06-07 Thread Sam Hartman
> "Michèl" == Michèl Alexandre Salim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> Michèl> The reason I raise this issue in the first place is Michèl> actually a notion that it would be nice for users wanting Michèl> bleeding-edge software to update from CVS and just run Michèl> debian/ru

Re: Integration of debian/ scripts in packages

2001-06-07 Thread Sam Hartman
> "Michèl" == Michèl Alexandre Salim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Michèl> Hello, A general observation of Unix programs in general - Michèl> a lot more of them come with RPM spec files, even Michèl> generates them automatically from a spec.in file, than Michèl> with debian scrip

Re: Integration of debian/ scripts in packages

2001-06-07 Thread tytso
On Tue, Jun 05, 2001 at 04:01:20AM +0100, Mich?l Alexandre Salim wrote: > Rather a neat idea. And certainly I have seen it > implemented - for Enlightenment 0.17 CVS for instance. > It is still the duty of the Debian maintainer to make > sure the Debian version of the scripts conform to > Debian sp

Re: Integration of debian/ scripts in packages

2001-06-07 Thread tytso
On Tue, Jun 05, 2001 at 04:01:20AM +0100, Mich?l Alexandre Salim wrote: > Rather a neat idea. And certainly I have seen it > implemented - for Enlightenment 0.17 CVS for instance. > It is still the duty of the Debian maintainer to make > sure the Debian version of the scripts conform to > Debian s

Re: Integration of debian/ scripts in packages

2001-06-04 Thread Michèl Alexandre Salim
--- Sam Hartman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > "Michèl" == Michèl Alexandre Salim > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > And if you come up with a clean solution for the > changelog issue, I > agree this is worth doing. If you do that, please > let me know what > your solution is. > As Richard Atte

Re: Integration of debian/ scripts in packages

2001-06-04 Thread Sam Hartman
> "Michèl" == Michèl Alexandre Salim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> Michèl> The reason I raise this issue in the first place is Michèl> actually a notion that it would be nice for users wanting Michèl> bleeding-edge software to update from CVS and just run Michèl> debian/r

Re: Integration of debian/ scripts in packages

2001-06-04 Thread Richard Atterer
On Mon, Jun 04, 2001 at 06:31:54PM +0100, Michèl Alexandre Salim wrote: [debian/ in upstream makes maintaining package difficult] > The reason I raise this issue in the first place is actually a > notion that it would be nice for users wanting bleeding-edge > software to update from CVS and just r

Re: Integration of debian/ scripts in packages

2001-06-04 Thread Sam Hartman
> "Michèl" == Michèl Alexandre Salim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Michèl> Hello, A general observation of Unix programs in general - Michèl> a lot more of them come with RPM spec files, even Michèl> generates them automatically from a spec.in file, than Michèl> with debian scri

Re: Integration of debian/ scripts in packages

2001-06-04 Thread Michèl Alexandre Salim
--- Josip Rodin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, Jun 03, 2001 at 11:40:26PM -0300, Henrique > de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > files there. Even if > > upstream keeps its debian/ up-to-date, it will > still cause you trouble if > > you have to remove a file, as you'll need to > either use dirty t

Re: Integration of debian/ scripts in packages

2001-06-04 Thread Josip Rodin
On Sun, Jun 03, 2001 at 11:40:26PM -0300, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > Most of the time, no. Upstream debian/ cruft gets in the way of the updated > debian/ files, especially if you need to delete files there. Even if > upstream keeps its debian/ up-to-date, it will still cause you trouble

Re: Integration of debian/ scripts in packages

2001-06-04 Thread Josip Rodin
On Sun, Jun 03, 2001 at 11:40:26PM -0300, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > Most of the time, no. Upstream debian/ cruft gets in the way of the updated > debian/ files, especially if you need to delete files there. Even if > upstream keeps its debian/ up-to-date, it will still cause you troubl

Re: Integration of debian/ scripts in packages

2001-06-03 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Mon, 04 Jun 2001, Jason Thomas wrote: > hmmm, I just had the upstream remove the debian specific stuff so I > could have policy compilant stuff and use the debhelper stuff more. I also did the same in fetchmail. It gets easier to maintain a package that has no debian/ directory (which is often

Re: Integration of debian/ scripts in packages

2001-06-03 Thread Jason Thomas
hmmm, I just had the upstream remove the debian specific stuff so I could have policy compilant stuff and use the debhelper stuff more. On Mon, Jun 04, 2001 at 03:14:20AM +0100, Mich?l Alexandre Salim wrote: > Hello, > > A general observation of Unix programs in general - a > lot more of them com

Integration of debian/ scripts in packages

2001-06-03 Thread Michèl Alexandre Salim
Hello, A general observation of Unix programs in general - a lot more of them come with RPM spec files, even generates them automatically from a spec.in file, than with debian scripts. Probably a function of the majority of Linux users / programmers working on RPM-based systems but I am curious a

Re: Integration of debian/ scripts in packages

2001-06-03 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Mon, 04 Jun 2001, Jason Thomas wrote: > hmmm, I just had the upstream remove the debian specific stuff so I > could have policy compilant stuff and use the debhelper stuff more. I also did the same in fetchmail. It gets easier to maintain a package that has no debian/ directory (which is often

Re: Integration of debian/ scripts in packages

2001-06-03 Thread Jason Thomas
hmmm, I just had the upstream remove the debian specific stuff so I could have policy compilant stuff and use the debhelper stuff more. On Mon, Jun 04, 2001 at 03:14:20AM +0100, Mich?l Alexandre Salim wrote: > Hello, > > A general observation of Unix programs in general - a > lot more of them co

Integration of debian/ scripts in packages

2001-06-03 Thread Michèl Alexandre Salim
Hello, A general observation of Unix programs in general - a lot more of them come with RPM spec files, even generates them automatically from a spec.in file, than with debian scripts. Probably a function of the majority of Linux users / programmers working on RPM-based systems but I am curious