Re: Build non-free ncompress

2003-06-20 Thread Kenneth Pronovici
> Eek! > > http://www.debian.org/doc/developers-reference/ch-developer-duties.en.html#s-key-maint Double-eek! I'm rather embarrassed, now. :( Anyway, my build-related gaffes aside, ncompress has now made it into testing. Thanks to all of you for your advice and help. KEN -- Kenneth J. Prono

Re: Build non-free ncompress

2003-06-20 Thread Kenneth Pronovici
> Eek! > > http://www.debian.org/doc/developers-reference/ch-developer-duties.en.html#s-key-maint Double-eek! I'm rather embarrassed, now. :( Anyway, my build-related gaffes aside, ncompress has now made it into testing. Thanks to all of you for your advice and help. KEN -- Kenneth J. Prono

Re: Build non-free ncompress

2003-06-17 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Tue, Jun 17, 2003 at 02:43:58PM -0500, Kenneth Pronovici wrote: > > Dunno about fakeroot, but why do you want gpg on escher? You really > > don't want to be storing your private GPG key on machines you don't > > control; copy the built files back to a secure machine and sign there > > instead.

Re: Build non-free ncompress

2003-06-17 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Tue, Jun 17, 2003 at 08:00:12PM +0100, James Troup wrote: > Err, why do you need gpg? Surely, you're not signing the .changes on > remote machines? :-/ I keep a copy of my own public key on some Debian machines so that I can sanity-check my own signature on packages. -- - mdz

Re: Build non-free ncompress

2003-06-17 Thread Kenneth Pronovici
> Dunno about fakeroot, but why do you want gpg on escher? You really > don't want to be storing your private GPG key on machines you don't > control; copy the built files back to a secure machine and sign there > instead. In retrospect, that's much more sensible than temporarily copying my .gnu

Re: Build non-free ncompress

2003-06-17 Thread Colin Watson
On Tue, Jun 17, 2003 at 01:29:44PM -0500, Kenneth Pronovici wrote: > Only problem now is that fakeroot isn't installed on casals and gpg > isn't installed on escher. Should I just write debian-admin? Dunno about fakeroot, but why do you want gpg on escher? You really don't want to be storing your

Re: Build non-free ncompress

2003-06-17 Thread James Troup
Kenneth Pronovici <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Only problem now is that fakeroot isn't installed on casals Fixed. > and gpg isn't installed on escher. Err, why do you need gpg? Surely, you're not signing the .changes on remote machines? :-/ > Should I just write debian-admin? In general, ye

Re: Build non-free ncompress

2003-06-17 Thread Kenneth Pronovici
> > I had no problems getting into debussy, raptor or crest, but casals and > > escher denied my login. > > pdksh wasn't installed; try again. That was it. Thanks! Only problem now is that fakeroot isn't installed on casals and gpg isn't installed on escher. Should I just write debian-admin?

Re: Build non-free ncompress

2003-06-17 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Tue, Jun 17, 2003 at 02:43:58PM -0500, Kenneth Pronovici wrote: > > Dunno about fakeroot, but why do you want gpg on escher? You really > > don't want to be storing your private GPG key on machines you don't > > control; copy the built files back to a secure machine and sign there > > instead.

Re: Build non-free ncompress

2003-06-17 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Tue, Jun 17, 2003 at 08:00:12PM +0100, James Troup wrote: > Err, why do you need gpg? Surely, you're not signing the .changes on > remote machines? :-/ I keep a copy of my own public key on some Debian machines so that I can sanity-check my own signature on packages. -- - mdz -- To UNSU

Re: Build non-free ncompress

2003-06-17 Thread Kenneth Pronovici
> Dunno about fakeroot, but why do you want gpg on escher? You really > don't want to be storing your private GPG key on machines you don't > control; copy the built files back to a secure machine and sign there > instead. In retrospect, that's much more sensible than temporarily copying my .gnu

Re: Build non-free ncompress

2003-06-17 Thread James Troup
Kenneth Pronovici <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I had no problems getting into debussy, raptor or crest, but casals and > escher denied my login. pdksh wasn't installed; try again. -- James

Re: Build non-free ncompress

2003-06-17 Thread James Troup
Kenneth Pronovici <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I had no problems getting into debussy, raptor or crest, but casals and > escher denied my login. pdksh wasn't installed; try again. -- James -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMA

Re: Build non-free ncompress

2003-06-17 Thread Colin Watson
On Tue, Jun 17, 2003 at 01:29:44PM -0500, Kenneth Pronovici wrote: > Only problem now is that fakeroot isn't installed on casals and gpg > isn't installed on escher. Should I just write debian-admin? Dunno about fakeroot, but why do you want gpg on escher? You really don't want to be storing your

Re: Build non-free ncompress

2003-06-17 Thread James Troup
Kenneth Pronovici <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Only problem now is that fakeroot isn't installed on casals Fixed. > and gpg isn't installed on escher. Err, why do you need gpg? Surely, you're not signing the .changes on remote machines? :-/ > Should I just write debian-admin? In general, ye

Re: Build non-free ncompress

2003-06-17 Thread Kenneth Pronovici
> > I had no problems getting into debussy, raptor or crest, but casals and > > escher denied my login. > > pdksh wasn't installed; try again. That was it. Thanks! Only problem now is that fakeroot isn't installed on casals and gpg isn't installed on escher. Should I just write debian-admin?

Re: Build non-free ncompress

2003-06-17 Thread Kenneth Pronovici
> > > You login and do "dchroot sid". This solves alpha (escher), arm > > > (debussy), s390 (raptor), m68k (crest) and mips (casals). - You are > > > only missing ia64. I had no problems getting into debussy, raptor or crest, but casals and escher denied my login. I had assumed the machines page

Re: Build non-free ncompress

2003-06-17 Thread Kenneth Pronovici
> > > You login and do "dchroot sid". This solves alpha (escher), arm > > > (debussy), s390 (raptor), m68k (crest) and mips (casals). - You are > > > only missing ia64. I had no problems getting into debussy, raptor or crest, but casals and escher denied my login. I had assumed the machines page

Re: Build non-free ncompress

2003-06-17 Thread Andreas Metzler
On Tue, Jun 17, 2003 at 01:19:19PM +0100, James Troup wrote: > Andreas Metzler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > You login and do "dchroot sid". This solves alpha (escher), arm > > (debussy), s390 (raptor), m68k (crest) and mips (casals). - You are > > only missing ia64. > merulo has chroots. Than

Re: Build non-free ncompress

2003-06-17 Thread James Troup
Andreas Metzler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > You login and do "dchroot sid". This solves alpha (escher), arm > (debussy), s390 (raptor), m68k (crest) and mips (casals). - You are > only missing ia64. merulo has chroots. -- James

Re: Build non-free ncompress

2003-06-17 Thread Andreas Metzler
On Tue, Jun 17, 2003 at 01:19:19PM +0100, James Troup wrote: > Andreas Metzler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > You login and do "dchroot sid". This solves alpha (escher), arm > > (debussy), s390 (raptor), m68k (crest) and mips (casals). - You are > > only missing ia64. > merulo has chroots. Than

Re: Build non-free ncompress

2003-06-17 Thread James Troup
Andreas Metzler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > You login and do "dchroot sid". This solves alpha (escher), arm > (debussy), s390 (raptor), m68k (crest) and mips (casals). - You are > only missing ia64. merulo has chroots. -- James -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject o

Re: Build non-free ncompress

2003-06-17 Thread Andreas Metzler
On Mon, Jun 16, 2003 at 06:19:21PM -0500, Kenneth Pronovici wrote: [Building package by hand] > According to the machines list, I can get access to a machine running > sid for hppa, powerpc, sparc and mipsel. This leaves alpha, arm, ia64 > and s390 before ncompress can move into testing, and then

Re: Build non-free ncompress

2003-06-17 Thread Andreas Metzler
On Mon, Jun 16, 2003 at 06:19:21PM -0500, Kenneth Pronovici wrote: [Building package by hand] > According to the machines list, I can get access to a machine running > sid for hppa, powerpc, sparc and mipsel. This leaves alpha, arm, ia64 > and s390 before ncompress can move into testing, and then

Re: Build non-free ncompress

2003-06-17 Thread Xavier Roche
> Yes - when I dug into this in April, it looked as if it wouldn't be > safe for non-free in Europe until at least 2004, and I'm not sure about > other places. I don't think that this patent is valid in Europe (after all, software patents are *still* supposed to be illegal in Europe), even if it

Re: Build non-free ncompress

2003-06-17 Thread Kenneth Pronovici
> If I were you I'd maybe build it on some of these architectures if I > felt motivated to do so, and then file a bug on ftp.debian.org to get > the old builds removed for the other architectures that are no longer > autobuilding non-free software. If they don't want to autobuild it, why > waste th

Re: Build non-free ncompress

2003-06-17 Thread Kenneth Pronovici
> Chroots are usually accessible with 'dchroot ' when and where > they are available. Got it. I was able to do that on debussy for arm, and m68k on crest (although it turns out m6k autobuilds at least some non-free already). > This is one of the reasons why non-free sucks. I understand now. :-)

Re: Build non-free ncompress

2003-06-17 Thread Kenneth Pronovici
> > I've think that patent is about to expire. (June 20? I think I saw > > it slashdotted within the past month.) If you can confirm this, just > > wait till then and move it to main. > Unfortunately it seems that that's only true for very us-centric > people, not Debian. Yes - when I dug into

Re: Build non-free ncompress

2003-06-17 Thread Thomas Viehmann
Blars Blarson wrote: > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: >>As a side-note, this package >>is non-free because of issues surrounding the LZW patent, not because >>its license is non-free. > I've think that patent is about to expire. (June 20? I think I saw > it slashdotted w

Re: Build non-free ncompress

2003-06-17 Thread Xavier Roche
> Yes - when I dug into this in April, it looked as if it wouldn't be > safe for non-free in Europe until at least 2004, and I'm not sure about > other places. I don't think that this patent is valid in Europe (after all, software patents are *still* supposed to be illegal in Europe), even if it

Re: Build non-free ncompress

2003-06-16 Thread Kenneth Pronovici
> If I were you I'd maybe build it on some of these architectures if I > felt motivated to do so, and then file a bug on ftp.debian.org to get > the old builds removed for the other architectures that are no longer > autobuilding non-free software. If they don't want to autobuild it, why > waste th

Re: Build non-free ncompress

2003-06-16 Thread Kenneth Pronovici
> Chroots are usually accessible with 'dchroot ' when and where > they are available. Got it. I was able to do that on debussy for arm, and m68k on crest (although it turns out m6k autobuilds at least some non-free already). > This is one of the reasons why non-free sucks. I understand now. :-)

Re: Build non-free ncompress

2003-06-16 Thread Kenneth Pronovici
> > I've think that patent is about to expire. (June 20? I think I saw > > it slashdotted within the past month.) If you can confirm this, just > > wait till then and move it to main. > Unfortunately it seems that that's only true for very us-centric > people, not Debian. Yes - when I dug into

Re: Build non-free ncompress

2003-06-16 Thread Blars Blarson
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > As a side-note, this package >is non-free because of issues surrounding the LZW patent, not because >its license is non-free. I've think that patent is about to expire. (June 20? I think I saw it slashdotted within the past month.) If y

Re: Build non-free ncompress

2003-06-16 Thread Thomas Viehmann
Blars Blarson wrote: > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: >>As a side-note, this package >>is non-free because of issues surrounding the LZW patent, not because >>its license is non-free. > I've think that patent is about to expire. (June 20? I think I saw > it slashdotted w

Re: Build non-free ncompress

2003-06-16 Thread Joey Hess
Kenneth Pronovici wrote: > Anyway, now that I've done all of this cleanup, I've realized that the > package won't move into testing until I build it on all of the > architectures it was built on for woody. Right now, according to the > excuses list, I am missing alpha, arm, hppa, ia64, powerpc, s3

Re: Build non-free ncompress

2003-06-16 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Mon, Jun 16, 2003 at 06:19:21PM -0500, Kenneth Pronovici wrote: > According to the machines list, I can get access to a machine running > sid for hppa, powerpc, sparc and mipsel. This leaves alpha, arm, ia64 > and s390 before ncompress can move into testing, and then also m68k and > mips befor

Re: Build non-free ncompress

2003-06-16 Thread Blars Blarson
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > As a side-note, this package >is non-free because of issues surrounding the LZW patent, not because >its license is non-free. I've think that patent is about to expire. (June 20? I think I saw it slashdotted within the past month.) If y

Re: Build non-free ncompress

2003-06-16 Thread Kenneth Pronovici
> > Because I still use it[...] > > I have to ask...why? :-) Well, I think you're poking fun at me, but I'm going to pretend that I didn't notice and give you an answer anyway. :) The main reason I took it is that my Cedar Backup package (not officially in Debian) supports tar.Z backups and henc

Re: Build non-free ncompress

2003-06-16 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Mon, Jun 16, 2003 at 06:19:21PM -0500, Kenneth Pronovici wrote: > Because I still use it[...] I have to ask...why? :-) -- - mdz

Re: Build non-free ncompress

2003-06-16 Thread Joey Hess
Kenneth Pronovici wrote: > Anyway, now that I've done all of this cleanup, I've realized that the > package won't move into testing until I build it on all of the > architectures it was built on for woody. Right now, according to the > excuses list, I am missing alpha, arm, hppa, ia64, powerpc, s3

Re: Build non-free ncompress

2003-06-16 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Mon, Jun 16, 2003 at 06:19:21PM -0500, Kenneth Pronovici wrote: > According to the machines list, I can get access to a machine running > sid for hppa, powerpc, sparc and mipsel. This leaves alpha, arm, ia64 > and s390 before ncompress can move into testing, and then also m68k and > mips befor

Re: Build non-free ncompress

2003-06-16 Thread Kenneth Pronovici
> > Because I still use it[...] > > I have to ask...why? :-) Well, I think you're poking fun at me, but I'm going to pretend that I didn't notice and give you an answer anyway. :) The main reason I took it is that my Cedar Backup package (not officially in Debian) supports tar.Z backups and henc

Re: Build non-free ncompress

2003-06-16 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Mon, Jun 16, 2003 at 06:19:21PM -0500, Kenneth Pronovici wrote: > Because I still use it[...] I have to ask...why? :-) -- - mdz -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Build non-free ncompress

2003-06-16 Thread Kenneth Pronovici
I know this question (or a similar one) comes up periodically both here and on -devel. Unfortunately, I have to ask it again, because I can't find a complete solution to my problem. Because I still use it, I adopted ncompress a few months ago when it was orphaned. I spent a night or two and clos

Build non-free ncompress

2003-06-16 Thread Kenneth Pronovici
I know this question (or a similar one) comes up periodically both here and on -devel. Unfortunately, I have to ask it again, because I can't find a complete solution to my problem. Because I still use it, I adopted ncompress a few months ago when it was orphaned. I spent a night or two and clos