RE: 2 ftpds packages conflicts

2006-11-08 Thread Jean-Sebastien Pilon
On this, what can I do to get my problem solved? > > Alternatively, if it is deemed that chosing and installing a > ftp server is > something technical, Debian could provide a meta-package which would > pick one, conflict on others, and interact with users to ease the > configuration. > > Also,

Re: 2 ftpds packages conflicts

2006-11-07 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Tue, Nov 07, 2006 at 09:49:37PM +0100, Székelyi Szabolcs a écrit : > > b) drop Conflicts > - Novice user installs the packages in question. *If* he notices > that there is some problem, looks at logs (as I remember, apache > tells about the problem on the console, too), searche

Re: 2 ftpds packages conflicts

2006-11-07 Thread Székelyi Szabolcs
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, Gerrit Pape wrote: > On Mon, Nov 06, 2006 at 11:34:14PM +0100, Sz?kelyi Szabolcs wrote: >> can anyone tell why ftpds do conflict with each other and why httpds do >> not? > > Actually the httpds should conflict too as they install listeners on >

RE: Re: 2 ftpds packages conflicts

2006-11-07 Thread Jean-Sebastien Pilon
The point is apt-get let me installed it with a warning, but doesn't want to let me install anything else without removing the conflicting package it accepted to install. > > E.g.: With no httpd installed, install the apache package, > apache will > > listen on 0.0.0.0:80; now install the thttpd

Re: 2 ftpds packages conflicts

2006-11-07 Thread Martijn van Oosterhout
On 11/7/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Who should we help more: those who get paid to administer the machines, and are probably much more knowledable, or the occasional, home or small office user that doesn't have the knoweldge or the time to acquire it? Why is the occasional

Re: 2 ftpds packages conflicts

2006-11-07 Thread Bjørn Mork
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Yet there are also many users, probably those who are not > professional administrators, that _need_ for everything to work out of the > box. > Who should we help more: those who get paid to administer the machines, > and are probably much more knowledable, or the oc

Re: 2 ftpds packages conflicts

2006-11-07 Thread shaulka
On Tuesday, November 7, 2006 12:31 pm, Bjørn Mork wrote: > So? It's up to the adminstrator to configure the packages after > installation. > > The default of 0.0.0.0:80 may work as expected in some cases, but the > package maintainer cannot guarantee this. And that has nothing to do > with othe

Re: 2 ftpds packages conflicts

2006-11-07 Thread Bjørn Mork
Gerrit Pape <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Mon, Nov 06, 2006 at 11:34:14PM +0100, Sz?kelyi Szabolcs wrote: >> can anyone tell why ftpds do conflict with each other and why httpds do >> not? > > Actually the httpds should conflict too as they install listeners on > 0.0.0.0:80. Nope, not IMHO. The

Re: 2 ftpds packages conflicts

2006-11-07 Thread Gerrit Pape
On Mon, Nov 06, 2006 at 11:34:14PM +0100, Sz?kelyi Szabolcs wrote: > can anyone tell why ftpds do conflict with each other and why httpds do > not? Actually the httpds should conflict too as they install listeners on 0.0.0.0:80. E.g.: With no httpd installed, install the apache package, apache w

Re: 2 ftpds packages conflicts

2006-11-06 Thread Székelyi Szabolcs
hanks, - -- Szabolcs Jean-Sebastien Pilon wrote: > I agree with you, this is un-necessary conflicts. >> -Original Message- >> From: Gerrit Pape [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Sent: Monday, November 06, 2006 11:02 AM >> To: debian-mentors@lists.debian.org >> S

Re: RE: 2 ftpds packages conflicts

2006-11-06 Thread shaulka
mber 6, 2006 7:28 pm Subject: RE: 2 ftpds packages conflicts > I agree with you, this is un-necessary conflicts. > > Jean-Sébastien Pilon > Systems Administrator > Penson Financial Services Canada Inc. > % Tel.: 514.841.9724 #269 > % Cell: 514.771.0365 > > > -Or

RE: 2 ftpds packages conflicts

2006-11-06 Thread Jean-Sebastien Pilon
006 11:02 AM > To: debian-mentors@lists.debian.org > Subject: Re: 2 ftpds packages conflicts > > On Mon, Nov 06, 2006 at 10:23:19AM -0500, Jean-Sebastien Pilon wrote: > > Hello all, > > > > It might not be the best place to aask this, but I have > been s

Re: 2 ftpds packages conflicts

2006-11-06 Thread Gerrit Pape
On Mon, Nov 06, 2006 at 10:23:19AM -0500, Jean-Sebastien Pilon wrote: > Hello all, > > It might not be the best place to aask this, but I have been seeking for > help elsewhere and found no satisfactory resolution to my problem and it > is package related ;) > > I run a system with 2 ftpds (pur

RE: 2 ftpds packages conflicts

2006-11-06 Thread Jean-Sebastien Pilon
; Cc: debian-mentors@lists.debian.org > Subject: Re: 2 ftpds packages conflicts > > Hi (one more time) > > You can get the source of the package, edit debian/control and remove > "Conflicts: ftp-server" and "Provides: ftp-server", rebuild the > package and install

Re: 2 ftpds packages conflicts

2006-11-06 Thread Nelson A. de Oliveira
Hi (one more time) You can get the source of the package, edit debian/control and remove "Conflicts: ftp-server" and "Provides: ftp-server", rebuild the package and install it. You will need to do this with only one package (vsftpd or pure-ftpd). The problem is that if you want to keep it update

Re: 2 ftpds packages conflicts

2006-11-06 Thread Nelson A. de Oliveira
Argh, now I saw your problem! You already have it installed. I don't know how to help on this Sorry :-( Nelson -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: 2 ftpds packages conflicts

2006-11-06 Thread Nelson A. de Oliveira
Hi! On 11/6/06, Jean-Sebastien Pilon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: It might not be the best place to aask this, but I have been seeking for help elsewhere and found no satisfactory resolution to my problem and it is package related ;) debian-user maybe. Any idea how i can fix this ? You can f

2 ftpds packages conflicts

2006-11-06 Thread Jean-Sebastien Pilon
Hello all, It might not be the best place to aask this, but I have been seeking for help elsewhere and found no satisfactory resolution to my problem and it is package related ;) I run a system with 2 ftpds (pure-ftpd and vsftpd) and they are both debian stock packages Whenever I try to do an