Re: vanity packages (was: mentors.debian.net reloading)

2007-10-28 Thread Neil Williams
On Sun, 28 Oct 2007 22:47:42 + The Fungi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, Oct 28, 2007 at 09:19:12PM +, Neil Williams wrote: > [...] > > What kind of popcon score? i.e. does anyone else think it is a useful > > addition? > > I would consider its popularity low (187 popcon installs wit

Re: mentors.debian.net reloading

2007-10-28 Thread Ondrej Certik
On 10/29/07, Thomas Goirand <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ondrej Certik wrote: > >> Perhaps even for PPA-like services. > >> I'm thinking a similar way (using a Python web framework - although a > >> different one). > > > > Yeah, unforutunately there are several good python frameworks. But I > > don

Re: mentors.debian.net reloading

2007-10-28 Thread Thomas Goirand
Ondrej Certik wrote: >> Perhaps even for PPA-like services. >> I'm thinking a similar way (using a Python web framework - although a >> different one). > > Yeah, unforutunately there are several good python frameworks. But I > don't mind any framework, as long as its going to work. Do you know ab

Re: vanity packages (was: mentors.debian.net reloading)

2007-10-28 Thread Paul Wise
On 10/29/07, The Fungi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I would consider its popularity low (187 popcon installs with 46 > votes). I consider such fringe packages to be the main benefit of using Debian. That is; it is the diversity (or universality) of Debian that is attractive and useful. -- bye,

Re: mentors.debian.net reloading

2007-10-28 Thread Thomas Goirand
Cyril Brulebois wrote: > Is dtc considered an (almost) perfect (simple) package from your point > of view? No. It's far from perfect, and all but simple. And also, I consider it VERY outdated in the archive, I wish my corrections were uploaded. Anyway, why are you talking about it? It's completely

Re: RFS: libpam-blue

2007-10-28 Thread Michal Čihař
Hi On Sun, 28 Oct 2007 00:56:50 -0400 "Carlos Alberto" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I am looking for a sponsor for my package "libpam-blue". > > * Package name: libpam-blue > Version : 0.9.0-1 > Upstream Author : Carlos Alberto Silombria Ibarra > * URL : http://pam.0x

Re: RFS: ustr

2007-10-28 Thread Ondrej Certik
> * Package name: ustr > Version : 1.0.1-1 > Upstream Author : James Antill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > * URL : http://www.and.org/ustr/ > * License : LGPL, BSD, MIT > Section : libs > > It builds these binary packages: > libustr-1.0-1 - Micro string library:

Re: mentors.debian.net reloading

2007-10-28 Thread Paul Wise
On 10/26/07, Christoph Haas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > We have been running mentors.debian.net for years already Some thoughts: Aside from the metrics idea I put on the wiki page, I think it is fairly important to merge REVU, mentors.d.o and sponsors.d.o into one site. The metrics idea would

vanity packages (was: mentors.debian.net reloading)

2007-10-28 Thread The Fungi
On Sun, Oct 28, 2007 at 09:19:12PM +, Neil Williams wrote: [...] > What kind of popcon score? i.e. does anyone else think it is a useful > addition? I would consider its popularity low (187 popcon installs with 46 votes). Admittedly, Russ sponsored it because he said thought he was likely to f

Re: mentors.debian.net reloading

2007-10-28 Thread Gonéri Le Bouder
On Fri, Oct 26, 2007 at 05:19:38PM +0200, Christoph Haas wrote: > On Fri, Oct 26, 2007 at 04:51:01PM +0200, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: > > On 26/10/07 at 16:06 +0200, Christoph Haas wrote: (...) > > What Ondrej proposes is to turn mentors into a package archive, where > > packages would be built automat

Re: mentors.debian.net reloading

2007-10-28 Thread Neil Williams
On Sun, 28 Oct 2007 20:26:01 + Jeremy Stanley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, Oct 28, 2007 at 06:04:36PM +, Neil Williams wrote: > [...] > > I certainly think that sponsoring is a step towards joining Debian. > [...] > > Perhaps not entirely true It is true for those maintainers tha

Re: mentors.debian.net reloading

2007-10-28 Thread Jeremy Stanley
On Sun, Oct 28, 2007 at 06:04:36PM +, Neil Williams wrote: [...] > I certainly think that sponsoring is a step towards joining Debian. [...] Perhaps not entirely true, though I will accept that I may not be a typical non-DD maintainer. I have one (very simple) app sponsored into main for which

Re: mentors.debian.net reloading

2007-10-28 Thread Christoph Haas
Raphael, thanks for your thoughts. On Sun, Oct 28, 2007 at 01:33:20PM -0600, Raphael Geissert wrote: > In my very personal opinion I think m.d.n is fine as it is now. It itches in my fingers to add a few fancy features. :) And I've seen what Python web frameworks can do so I'd be willing to do m

Re: mentors.debian.net reloading

2007-10-28 Thread Raphael Geissert
Hi all, In my very personal opinion I think m.d.n is fine as it is now. About more (building, piuparts, linda/lintian on binaries, etc) QA checks: I think the maintainer should make all of these checks before even uploading the package to m.d.n "but it is complicated to setup foo/bar/etc": if som

Re: mentors.debian.net reloading

2007-10-28 Thread Christoph Haas
On Sun, Oct 28, 2007 at 04:45:03PM +0100, Ondrej Certik wrote: > BTW, I just found: > > http://www.bononia.it/~zack/blog/posts/2007/07/python_debfile.html > > There could be some interesting code to use. Cool, thanks for the link. It looks very powerful and hardly documented. I love text adventu

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Re: mentors.debian.net reloading

2007-10-28 Thread Neil Williams
On Sun, 28 Oct 2007 12:54:20 -0400 Jim Sansing <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > As a longtime software developer (but fairly recent Debian user), my > experience that is when it works for me, that is just the first step on > a long > road. So I am sure that the job of mentors is much more complicated

Re: mentors.debian.net reloading

2007-10-28 Thread Jim Sansing
>> times, but when I found some of the people here so nice and helpful, I >> could learn so much. The learning curve is quite long, and I still have >> so many things to learn. >> >> That vote system goes totally on the opposite direction, and >> blacklisting or discouraging people that are trying

Re: mentors.debian.net reloading

2007-10-28 Thread Ondrej Certik
> > So at least I expect to come up with a Python module > > that helps dealing with Debian source packages and repositories. I hoped > > that python-apt would help but last time I looked it was only there to > > deal with the APT cache. I spent a lot of time parsing control files > > correctly and

Re: mentors.debian.net reloading

2007-10-28 Thread Ondrej Certik
> > > I'm scared by the thought that there will be a dozen PPAs that end-users > > > will use to get their software from third-party sources. IMHO good > > > packages should go officially into Debian. And bad packages should go to > > > hell. Sponsorship might be a problem sometimes which may be so

Re: mentors.debian.net reloading

2007-10-28 Thread Christoph Haas
On Sun, Oct 28, 2007 at 11:19:14AM +0100, Ondrej Certik wrote: > > times, but when I found some of the people here so nice and helpful, I > > could learn so much. The learning curve is quite long, and I still have > > so many things to learn. > > > > That vote system goes totally on the opposite di

Re: mentors.debian.net reloading

2007-10-28 Thread Cyril Brulebois
Thomas Goirand <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (28/10/2007): > This list is GREAT because people are giving advice even for the most > stupid questions. I think that everybody has the rights to learn, I > really hate that kind of behaviour I could see with some on IRC putting > disgrace on learners (maybe just

Re: mentors.debian.net reloading

2007-10-28 Thread Ondrej Certik
> times, but when I found some of the people here so nice and helpful, I > could learn so much. The learning curve is quite long, and I still have > so many things to learn. > > That vote system goes totally on the opposite direction, and > blacklisting or discouraging people that are trying to lea