Re: [OT] A question for programmers - Inspiration

2003-03-23 Thread Barry deFreese
Robert Bihlmeyer wrote: Barry deFreese <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: I don't learn a great deal from reading unfortunately. I think we're alike here. But at least for me some texts were great inspiration. While reading "The Algorithmic Beauty of Plants" I was always itching to implemen

Re: [OT] A question for programmers - Inspiration

2003-03-23 Thread Matthew Danish
On Fri, Mar 21, 2003 at 10:20:02PM -0800, Joey Hess wrote: > Matthew Danish wrote: > > If you don't learn, you're going to make the same mistakes that were > > made before. > > Making mistakes can be the essence of learning. I've written spaghetti > code in BASIC, I've written C with buffer overfl

Re: [OT] A question for programmers - Inspiration

2003-03-23 Thread Joey Hess
I get less out of computer books than most people on this thread. With the technical/reference books I seem to not read them until I know most of what's in them, and then just use them to mop up any odd corner I missed. And I'd rather learn the more process and theory oriented stuff the hard way. T

Re: [OT] A question for programmers - Inspiration

2003-03-23 Thread Joey Hess
Matthew Danish wrote: > If you don't learn, you're going to make the same mistakes that were > made before. Making mistakes can be the essence of learning. I've written spaghetti code in BASIC, I've written C with buffer overflows, I've written accidential rm -rf's in shell. I've written bubble so

Re: [OT] A question for programmers - Inspiration

2003-03-23 Thread Barry deFreese
Robert Bihlmeyer wrote: Barry deFreese <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: I don't learn a great deal from reading unfortunately. I think we're alike here. But at least for me some texts were great inspiration. While reading "The Algorithmic Beauty of Plants" I was always itching to implement wha

Re: [OT] A question for programmers - Inspiration

2003-03-23 Thread Matthew Danish
On Fri, Mar 21, 2003 at 10:20:02PM -0800, Joey Hess wrote: > Matthew Danish wrote: > > If you don't learn, you're going to make the same mistakes that were > > made before. > > Making mistakes can be the essence of learning. I've written spaghetti > code in BASIC, I've written C with buffer overfl

Re: [OT] A question for programmers - Inspiration

2003-03-23 Thread Joey Hess
I get less out of computer books than most people on this thread. With the technical/reference books I seem to not read them until I know most of what's in them, and then just use them to mop up any odd corner I missed. And I'd rather learn the more process and theory oriented stuff the hard way. T

Re: [OT] A question for programmers - Inspiration

2003-03-23 Thread Joey Hess
Matthew Danish wrote: > If you don't learn, you're going to make the same mistakes that were > made before. Making mistakes can be the essence of learning. I've written spaghetti code in BASIC, I've written C with buffer overflows, I've written accidential rm -rf's in shell. I've written bubble so

Re: out-of-date-standards-version 3.5.6

2003-03-23 Thread Marcin Juszkiewicz
It was 2003-03-23 21:56 when Darren Salt wrote: > I demand that Thomas Viehmann may or may not have written... > > > Darren Salt wrote: > License : GNU Public Licence > >>> You *could* of course spell that correctly... > >> There are no _spelling_ errors there. > > While there are no

Re: out-of-date-standards-version 3.5.6

2003-03-23 Thread Darren Salt
I demand that Thomas Viehmann may or may not have written... > Darren Salt wrote: License : GNU Public Licence >>> You *could* of course spell that correctly... >> There are no _spelling_ errors there. > While there are no words mispelled, What? There's one, right there :-) > the *

Re: out-of-date-standards-version 3.5.6

2003-03-23 Thread Marcin Juszkiewicz
It was 2003-03-23 21:56 when Darren Salt wrote: > I demand that Thomas Viehmann may or may not have written... > > > Darren Salt wrote: > License : GNU Public Licence > >>> You *could* of course spell that correctly... > >> There are no _spelling_ errors there. > > While there are no

Re: out-of-date-standards-version 3.5.6

2003-03-23 Thread Darren Salt
I demand that Thomas Viehmann may or may not have written... > Darren Salt wrote: License : GNU Public Licence >>> You *could* of course spell that correctly... >> There are no _spelling_ errors there. > While there are no words mispelled, What? There's one, right there :-) > the *

Re: May I temporarily move away a conffile of a conflicting package?

2003-03-23 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Fri, Mar 21, 2003 at 04:52:09PM +0100, Andreas Metzler wrote: > For a complete discusssion see http://bugs.debian.org/183357 > > Currently the exim4-packages cannot provide /usr/sbin/exim (only > /usr/sbin/exim4) because exim v3's init script up to version 3.36-4 uses > something aequivalent t

Re: out-of-date-standards-version 3.5.6

2003-03-23 Thread Colin Watson
On Sun, Mar 23, 2003 at 08:16:18PM +0200, Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho wrote: > On 20030323T154831+, Darren Salt wrote: > > I demand that Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho may or may not have written... > > Demand? An odd choice of words. "We don't demand solid facts! What we demand is a total absence of

Re: [OT] A question for programmers - Inspiration

2003-03-23 Thread Thomas Viehmann
Hi Barry, Robert Bihlmeyer wrote: > Barry deFreese <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Other paths that might lead you to inspirations: > * On a related note, extensions to programs you use can make nice > little projects. Here might be a nice little project. I thought so after a question of a docum

Re: out-of-date-standards-version 3.5.6

2003-03-23 Thread Thomas Viehmann
Hi. Darren Salt wrote: >>>License : GNU Public Licence >>You *could* of course spell that correctly... > There are no _spelling_ errors there. While there are no words mispelled, the *name* of the license (or licence) is. Just because my name is spelled as Tomas with or without various acce

Re: out-of-date-standards-version 3.5.6

2003-03-23 Thread Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho
On 20030323T154831+, Darren Salt wrote: > I demand that Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho may or may not have written... Demand? An odd choice of words. > > On 20030321T182926+0100, Marcin Juszkiewicz wrote: > >> License : GNU Public Licence > > > You *could* of course spell that correctly...

Re: May I temporarily move away a conffile of a conflicting package?

2003-03-23 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Fri, Mar 21, 2003 at 04:52:09PM +0100, Andreas Metzler wrote: > For a complete discusssion see http://bugs.debian.org/183357 > > Currently the exim4-packages cannot provide /usr/sbin/exim (only > /usr/sbin/exim4) because exim v3's init script up to version 3.36-4 uses > something aequivalent t

Re: out-of-date-standards-version 3.5.6

2003-03-23 Thread Colin Watson
On Sun, Mar 23, 2003 at 08:16:18PM +0200, Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho wrote: > On 20030323T154831+, Darren Salt wrote: > > I demand that Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho may or may not have written... > > Demand? An odd choice of words. "We don't demand solid facts! What we demand is a total absence of

Re: [OT] A question for programmers - Inspiration

2003-03-23 Thread Robert Bihlmeyer
Barry deFreese <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I don't learn a great deal from reading unfortunately. I think we're alike here. But at least for me some texts were great inspiration. While reading "The Algorithmic Beauty of Plants" I was always itching to implement what was described. > I am prett

Re: out-of-date-standards-version 3.5.6

2003-03-23 Thread Darren Salt
I demand that Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho may or may not have written... > On 20030321T182926+0100, Marcin Juszkiewicz wrote: >> License : GNU Public Licence > You *could* of course spell that correctly... There are no _spelling_ errors there. > (Sorry, no time to give any useful comments.)

Re: [OT] A question for programmers - Inspiration

2003-03-23 Thread Thomas Viehmann
Hi Barry, Robert Bihlmeyer wrote: > Barry deFreese <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Other paths that might lead you to inspirations: > * On a related note, extensions to programs you use can make nice > little projects. Here might be a nice little project. I thought so after a question of a docum

Re: out-of-date-standards-version 3.5.6

2003-03-23 Thread Thomas Viehmann
Hi. Darren Salt wrote: >>>License : GNU Public Licence >>You *could* of course spell that correctly... > There are no _spelling_ errors there. While there are no words mispelled, the *name* of the license (or licence) is. Just because my name is spelled as Tomas with or without various acce

Re: out-of-date-standards-version 3.5.6

2003-03-23 Thread Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho
On 20030323T154831+, Darren Salt wrote: > I demand that Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho may or may not have written... Demand? An odd choice of words. > > On 20030321T182926+0100, Marcin Juszkiewicz wrote: > >> License : GNU Public Licence > > > You *could* of course spell that correctly...

Re: [OT] A question for programmers - Inspiration

2003-03-23 Thread Robert Bihlmeyer
Barry deFreese <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I don't learn a great deal from reading unfortunately. I think we're alike here. But at least for me some texts were great inspiration. While reading "The Algorithmic Beauty of Plants" I was always itching to implement what was described. > I am prett

Re: out-of-date-standards-version 3.5.6

2003-03-23 Thread Darren Salt
I demand that Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho may or may not have written... > On 20030321T182926+0100, Marcin Juszkiewicz wrote: >> License : GNU Public Licence > You *could* of course spell that correctly... There are no _spelling_ errors there. > (Sorry, no time to give any useful comments.)

RFS: PySol

2003-03-23 Thread Alexander Nofftz
Hi! As the bug in TKinter is fixed now, there's nothing that prevents PySol 4.81 from going into Unstable. However I'm still looking for a sponsor. You can get my packages at: http://server.alexnofftz.de/~alex/pysol/ Thanks in advance, Alex -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 F

RFS: PySol

2003-03-23 Thread Alexander Nofftz
Hi! As the bug in TKinter is fixed now, there's nothing that prevents PySol 4.81 from going into Unstable. However I'm still looking for a sponsor. You can get my packages at: http://server.alexnofftz.de/~alex/pysol/ Thanks in advance, Alex -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 F

Re: Question about ITP and where to go first

2003-03-23 Thread Graham Wilson
On Fri, Mar 21, 2003 at 04:37:47PM -0500, Morgon Kanter wrote: > Hello, hello. > I'm unsure exactly what to do next, however, because it is unclear. Am > I supposed to file an ITP bug against WNPP? Or should I find a sponsor > first? either one. i dont think it matters too much. > (it seems tha