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2002-09-22 Thread Jesus Climent
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Re: Handling application private libs

2002-09-22 Thread Devin Carraway
On Sun, Sep 22, 2002 at 01:40:12PM -0600, Bob Proulx wrote: > If you can avoid those shared libraries it would be best. Libraries > should be either shared in /usr/lib or not shared at all. The halfway > between place is not a mature methodology at this time and contains > many problems. Ignori

Re: Looking for sponsor/criticism

2002-09-22 Thread Rene Engelhard
Rene Engelhard wrote: > -> see my answer on Ralf's posting. Hrmpf. Stephen's posting of course... Regards, Rene -- .''`. Rene Engelhard -- Debian GNU/Linux Developer : :' : http://www.debian.org | http://people.debian.org/~rene/ `. `' [EMAIL PROTECTED] | GnuPG-Key ID: 248AE

Re: Looking for sponsor/criticism

2002-09-22 Thread Rene Engelhard
Hi, Stephen Gran wrote: > This one time, at band camp, Ralf Treinen said: > > On Sun, Sep 22, 2002 at 01:01:04PM -0400, Stephen Gran wrote: > > > Hello all, > > > I recently packaged up KCDLabel, a very nice GUI CD Label creator. IT > > > allows for both image and text manipulation, and I find it

Re: Looking for sponsor/criticism

2002-09-22 Thread Rene Engelhard
Hi Stefan, Stefan Schimanski wrote: > On Sunday 22 September 2002 19:01, Stephen Gran wrote: > > Hello all, > > I recently packaged up KCDLabel, a very nice GUI CD Label creator. > > IT allows for both image and text manipulation, and I find it nice > > for making CD's for friends. From the desc

Re: Looking for sponsor/criticism

2002-09-22 Thread Stefan Schimanski
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, On Sunday 22 September 2002 19:01, Stephen Gran wrote: > Hello all, > I recently packaged up KCDLabel, a very nice GUI CD Label creator. > IT allows for both image and text manipulation, and I find it nice > for making CD's for friends. From the

Re: Looking for sponsor/criticism

2002-09-22 Thread Stephen Gran
This one time, at band camp, Ralf Treinen said: > On Sun, Sep 22, 2002 at 01:01:04PM -0400, Stephen Gran wrote: > > Hello all, > > I recently packaged up KCDLabel, a very nice GUI CD Label creator. IT > > allows for both image and text manipulation, and I find it nice for > > making CD's for frien

Re: Looking for sponsor/criticism

2002-09-22 Thread Ralf Treinen
On Sun, Sep 22, 2002 at 01:01:04PM -0400, Stephen Gran wrote: > Hello all, > I recently packaged up KCDLabel, a very nice GUI CD Label creator. IT > allows for both image and text manipulation, and I find it nice for > making CD's for friends. From the description field: In which way is this dif

Re: Looking for sponsor/criticism

2002-09-22 Thread Rene Engelhard
Rene Engelhard wrote: > -> see my answer on Ralf's posting. Hrmpf. Stephen's posting of course... Regards, Rene -- .''`. Rene Engelhard -- Debian GNU/Linux Developer : :' : http://www.debian.org | http://people.debian.org/~rene/ `. `' [EMAIL PROTECTED] | GnuPG-Key ID: 248A

Re: Looking for sponsor/criticism

2002-09-22 Thread Rene Engelhard
Hi, Stephen Gran wrote: > This one time, at band camp, Ralf Treinen said: > > On Sun, Sep 22, 2002 at 01:01:04PM -0400, Stephen Gran wrote: > > > Hello all, > > > I recently packaged up KCDLabel, a very nice GUI CD Label creator. IT > > > allows for both image and text manipulation, and I find i

Re: Looking for sponsor/criticism

2002-09-22 Thread Rene Engelhard
Hi Stefan, Stefan Schimanski wrote: > On Sunday 22 September 2002 19:01, Stephen Gran wrote: > > Hello all, > > I recently packaged up KCDLabel, a very nice GUI CD Label creator. > > IT allows for both image and text manipulation, and I find it nice > > for making CD's for friends. From the des

Re: Looking for sponsor/criticism

2002-09-22 Thread Stefan Schimanski
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, On Sunday 22 September 2002 19:01, Stephen Gran wrote: > Hello all, > I recently packaged up KCDLabel, a very nice GUI CD Label creator. > IT allows for both image and text manipulation, and I find it nice > for making CD's for friends. From th

Re: Looking for sponsor/criticism

2002-09-22 Thread Stephen Gran
This one time, at band camp, Ralf Treinen said: > On Sun, Sep 22, 2002 at 01:01:04PM -0400, Stephen Gran wrote: > > Hello all, > > I recently packaged up KCDLabel, a very nice GUI CD Label creator. IT > > allows for both image and text manipulation, and I find it nice for > > making CD's for frie

Re: Handling application private libs

2002-09-22 Thread Will Newton
On Sunday 22 Sep 2002 8:31 pm, Bob Proulx wrote: > Is there a dependency that you continue to provide the shared > libraries? If so then they should be in /usr/lib and should be public > shared libraries. Private shared libraries really don't make much > sense to me. There are specific uses but

Re: Looking for sponsor/criticism

2002-09-22 Thread Ralf Treinen
On Sun, Sep 22, 2002 at 01:01:04PM -0400, Stephen Gran wrote: > Hello all, > I recently packaged up KCDLabel, a very nice GUI CD Label creator. IT > allows for both image and text manipulation, and I find it nice for > making CD's for friends. From the description field: In which way is this di

Re: Handling application private libs

2002-09-22 Thread Bob Proulx
Junichi Uekawa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002-09-22 20:54:19 +0900]: > What would be the point of restricting the shared libraries to > within the software ? The traditional argument is usually that shared libraries save disk space. If your have a large amount of code that is completely shared between

Re: Handling application private libs

2002-09-22 Thread Bob Proulx
Devin Carraway <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002-09-22 01:35:32 -0700]: BTW, I wanted to also say... > I know of three ways to deal with this one -- add a new path to > ld.so.conf (yuck), Blech! Very yucky taste in mouth. ;-) > link with -rpath, or wrap the apps in a script which alters > $LD_LIBRARY

Re: Handling application private libs

2002-09-22 Thread Bob Proulx
Devin Carraway <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002-09-22 01:35:32 -0700]: > I'm working on a package containing several executables, whose common > functionality lives in a few shared libraries. They're linked in the > usual way at compile time. Policy says they should live in > /usr/lib/packagename/, but

Re: Kerberos support for Cyrus: I need help

2002-09-22 Thread Steve Langasek
On Sun, Sep 22, 2002 at 02:08:34PM -0300, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > > curious, why does it need anything other than the SASL module in order to > > support Kerberos? > It can do group lookups for AFS, I think. And it also asks the kerberos > libs the canonic name of hosts and such. I

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Re: Handling application private libs

2002-09-22 Thread Will Newton
On Sunday 22 Sep 2002 8:31 pm, Bob Proulx wrote: > Is there a dependency that you continue to provide the shared > libraries? If so then they should be in /usr/lib and should be public > shared libraries. Private shared libraries really don't make much > sense to me. There are specific uses bu

Re: Handling application private libs

2002-09-22 Thread Bob Proulx
Junichi Uekawa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002-09-22 20:54:19 +0900]: > What would be the point of restricting the shared libraries to > within the software ? The traditional argument is usually that shared libraries save disk space. If your have a large amount of code that is completely shared betwee

Re: Handling application private libs

2002-09-22 Thread Bob Proulx
Devin Carraway <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002-09-22 01:35:32 -0700]: BTW, I wanted to also say... > I know of three ways to deal with this one -- add a new path to > ld.so.conf (yuck), Blech! Very yucky taste in mouth. ;-) > link with -rpath, or wrap the apps in a script which alters > $LD_LIBRAR

Re: Kerberos support for Cyrus: I need help

2002-09-22 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Sun, 22 Sep 2002, Steve Langasek wrote: > > Is there anyone around who would like to help with these questions, and with > > configure.in support to link the proper objects? Upstream supports MIT and > > Heimdal, but their stuff won't work with Debian heimdall out-of-the-box, for > > example (d

Re: Handling application private libs

2002-09-22 Thread Bob Proulx
Devin Carraway <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002-09-22 01:35:32 -0700]: > I'm working on a package containing several executables, whose common > functionality lives in a few shared libraries. They're linked in the > usual way at compile time. Policy says they should live in > /usr/lib/packagename/, but

Looking for sponsor/criticism

2002-09-22 Thread Stephen Gran
Hello all, I recently packaged up KCDLabel, a very nice GUI CD Label creator. IT allows for both image and text manipulation, and I find it nice for making CD's for friends. From the description field: Description: CD cover creator for KDE KCDLabel is a KDE program used to create covers, labels

Re: dpkg's treatment of symlinks

2002-09-22 Thread Jérôme Marant
Marco Kuhlmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Dear mentors, Hi, > I found out a little more about my current troubles with the new > versions of my packages mozart, mozart-contrib, and > mozart-doc-html. The phenomenon is this: > > Where the old version of mozart contains a _directory_ > /us

Re: Kerberos support for Cyrus: I need help

2002-09-22 Thread Steve Langasek
On Sun, Sep 22, 2002 at 02:08:34PM -0300, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > > curious, why does it need anything other than the SASL module in order to > > support Kerberos? > It can do group lookups for AFS, I think. And it also asks the kerberos > libs the canonic name of hosts and such.

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Re: Kerberos support for Cyrus: I need help

2002-09-22 Thread Steve Langasek
On Sun, Sep 22, 2002 at 09:45:17AM -0300, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > I have been asked to add kerberos support to Cyrus IMAPd. So far so good. > Part of it is already there anyway, as long as Kerberos modules for SASL2 > are installed in the system. > Now, I have to choose wether to use

Re: Kerberos support for Cyrus: I need help

2002-09-22 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Sun, 22 Sep 2002, Steve Langasek wrote: > > Is there anyone around who would like to help with these questions, and with > > configure.in support to link the proper objects? Upstream supports MIT and > > Heimdal, but their stuff won't work with Debian heimdall out-of-the-box, for > > example (

Looking for sponsor/criticism

2002-09-22 Thread Stephen Gran
Hello all, I recently packaged up KCDLabel, a very nice GUI CD Label creator. IT allows for both image and text manipulation, and I find it nice for making CD's for friends. From the description field: Description: CD cover creator for KDE KCDLabel is a KDE program used to create covers, label

Re: dpkg's treatment of symlinks

2002-09-22 Thread Jérôme Marant
Marco Kuhlmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Dear mentors, Hi, > I found out a little more about my current troubles with the new > versions of my packages mozart, mozart-contrib, and > mozart-doc-html. The phenomenon is this: > > Where the old version of mozart contains a _directory_ > /u

Re: Kerberos support for Cyrus: I need help

2002-09-22 Thread Steve Langasek
On Sun, Sep 22, 2002 at 09:45:17AM -0300, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > I have been asked to add kerberos support to Cyrus IMAPd. So far so good. > Part of it is already there anyway, as long as Kerberos modules for SASL2 > are installed in the system. > Now, I have to choose wether to us

Kerberos support for Cyrus: I need help

2002-09-22 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
I have been asked to add kerberos support to Cyrus IMAPd. So far so good. Part of it is already there anyway, as long as Kerberos modules for SASL2 are installed in the system. Now, I have to choose wether to use Heimdal or MIT Kerberos 5. And not being familiar with Kerberos, I don't know what

Re: Handling application private libs

2002-09-22 Thread Junichi Uekawa
Devin Carraway <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> immo vero scripsit: > I'm working on a package containing several executables, whose common > functionality lives in a few shared libraries. They're linked in the > usual way at compile time. Policy says they should live in > /usr/lib/packagename/, but I need t

Re: building packages on unstable for stable

2002-09-22 Thread Paul Cupis
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sunday 22 September 2002 07:37, Holger Kubiak wrote: > But I have another problem: When I build the package with debuild there is > no problem, when I build with pdebuild, all scripts (one bash, one perl) > in /usr/bin are not executable. Files in

Kerberos support for Cyrus: I need help

2002-09-22 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
I have been asked to add kerberos support to Cyrus IMAPd. So far so good. Part of it is already there anyway, as long as Kerberos modules for SASL2 are installed in the system. Now, I have to choose wether to use Heimdal or MIT Kerberos 5. And not being familiar with Kerberos, I don't know what

Re: Handling application private libs

2002-09-22 Thread Junichi Uekawa
Devin Carraway <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> immo vero scripsit: > I'm working on a package containing several executables, whose common > functionality lives in a few shared libraries. They're linked in the > usual way at compile time. Policy says they should live in > /usr/lib/packagename/, but I need

Re: building packages on unstable for stable

2002-09-22 Thread Paul Cupis
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sunday 22 September 2002 07:37, Holger Kubiak wrote: > But I have another problem: When I build the package with debuild there is > no problem, when I build with pdebuild, all scripts (one bash, one perl) > in /usr/bin are not executable. Files in

Handling application private libs

2002-09-22 Thread Devin Carraway
I'm working on a package containing several executables, whose common functionality lives in a few shared libraries. They're linked in the usual way at compile time. Policy says they should live in /usr/lib/packagename/, but I need to make them available for the runtime linker. I know of three w

Re: dealing with dead projects

2002-09-22 Thread Devin Carraway
On Sun, Sep 22, 2002 at 03:54:17AM -0400, David B Harris wrote: > Ideally, there'd be some dead-project listing somewhere; you could ask > your upstream to list the project there. Then interested parties can > pick it up if they so desire. There have been at least a few -- UFO and DOOSS seem to be

Re: dealing with dead projects

2002-09-22 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Sun, 22 Sep 2002, Sam Powers wrote: > > Beat him over the head with some of ESR's writings, specifically the part > > which states that the final responsibility of a free software author is to > > find an appropriate successor when your own interest has died. > > Well, at least he offered it

Re: building packages on unstable for stable

2002-09-22 Thread Junichi Uekawa
Holger Kubiak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> immo vero scripsit: > But I have another problem: When I build the package with debuild there is > no problem, when I build with pdebuild, all scripts (one bash, one perl) > in /usr/bin are not executable. diff does not maintain executable bits. So, any file that

Re: dealing with dead projects

2002-09-22 Thread Sam Powers
On Sun, 22 Sep 2002, Matthew Palmer wrote: > Beat him over the head with some of ESR's writings, specifically the part > which states that the final responsibility of a free software author is to > find an appropriate successor when your own interest has died. Well, at least he offered it to me.

Re: dealing with dead projects

2002-09-22 Thread Sam Powers
On Sun, 22 Sep 2002, David B Harris wrote: > Ideally, there'd be some dead-project listing somewhere; you could ask > your upstream to list the project there. Then interested parties can > pick it up if they so desire. > > Dunno if any such beast exists, however. That would be a really, really, re

Re: dealing with dead projects

2002-09-22 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Sun, 22 Sep 2002, Sam Powers wrote: > I've got a package, xmms-liveice, which is very, very unstable. The > upstream author has moved on to other projects, and doesn't seem > particularly interested in making the code work better. Beat him over the head with some of ESR's writings, specificall

Re: dealing with dead projects

2002-09-22 Thread David B Harris
On Sun, 22 Sep 2002 00:34:45 -0700 (PDT) Sam Powers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I've got a package, xmms-liveice, which is very, very unstable. The > upstream author has moved on to other projects, and doesn't seem > particularly interested in making the code work better. > > It's an xmms plugin,

dealing with dead projects

2002-09-22 Thread Sam Powers
I've got a package, xmms-liveice, which is very, very unstable. The upstream author has moved on to other projects, and doesn't seem particularly interested in making the code work better. It's an xmms plugin, written in C. I don't know C, so I can't fix the bugs myself. How should I go about find

Re: building packages on unstable for stable

2002-09-22 Thread Holger Kubiak
On Sat, 21 Sep 2002 23:09:00 +0100 Paul Cupis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Can you try running pdebuild (with no arguments) in the source > directory, please, rather than "pbuilder build .dsc". This problem may > be caused by a error in your .dsc file. The problem *was* caused by an error: Becaus

Handling application private libs

2002-09-22 Thread Devin Carraway
I'm working on a package containing several executables, whose common functionality lives in a few shared libraries. They're linked in the usual way at compile time. Policy says they should live in /usr/lib/packagename/, but I need to make them available for the runtime linker. I know of three

Re: dealing with dead projects

2002-09-22 Thread Devin Carraway
On Sun, Sep 22, 2002 at 03:54:17AM -0400, David B Harris wrote: > Ideally, there'd be some dead-project listing somewhere; you could ask > your upstream to list the project there. Then interested parties can > pick it up if they so desire. There have been at least a few -- UFO and DOOSS seem to b

Re: dealing with dead projects

2002-09-22 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Sun, 22 Sep 2002, Sam Powers wrote: > > Beat him over the head with some of ESR's writings, specifically the part > > which states that the final responsibility of a free software author is to > > find an appropriate successor when your own interest has died. > > Well, at least he offered i

Re: building packages on unstable for stable

2002-09-22 Thread Junichi Uekawa
Holger Kubiak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> immo vero scripsit: > But I have another problem: When I build the package with debuild there is > no problem, when I build with pdebuild, all scripts (one bash, one perl) > in /usr/bin are not executable. diff does not maintain executable bits. So, any file that

Re: dealing with dead projects

2002-09-22 Thread Sam Powers
On Sun, 22 Sep 2002, Matthew Palmer wrote: > Beat him over the head with some of ESR's writings, specifically the part > which states that the final responsibility of a free software author is to > find an appropriate successor when your own interest has died. Well, at least he offered it to me

Re: dealing with dead projects

2002-09-22 Thread Sam Powers
On Sun, 22 Sep 2002, David B Harris wrote: > Ideally, there'd be some dead-project listing somewhere; you could ask > your upstream to list the project there. Then interested parties can > pick it up if they so desire. > > Dunno if any such beast exists, however. That would be a really, really, r

Re: dealing with dead projects

2002-09-22 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Sun, 22 Sep 2002, Sam Powers wrote: > I've got a package, xmms-liveice, which is very, very unstable. The > upstream author has moved on to other projects, and doesn't seem > particularly interested in making the code work better. Beat him over the head with some of ESR's writings, specifical

Re: dealing with dead projects

2002-09-22 Thread David B Harris
On Sun, 22 Sep 2002 00:34:45 -0700 (PDT) Sam Powers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I've got a package, xmms-liveice, which is very, very unstable. The > upstream author has moved on to other projects, and doesn't seem > particularly interested in making the code work better. > > It's an xmms plugin

dealing with dead projects

2002-09-22 Thread Sam Powers
I've got a package, xmms-liveice, which is very, very unstable. The upstream author has moved on to other projects, and doesn't seem particularly interested in making the code work better. It's an xmms plugin, written in C. I don't know C, so I can't fix the bugs myself. How should I go about fin