Re: changelog and /usr/share/doc/package as a symlink

2002-04-27 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 28-Apr-2002 Oohara Yuuma wrote: > On Sat, 27 Apr 2002 10:01:29 -0700 (PDT), > "Sean 'Shaleh' Perry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Don't just split without good reason. > I am planning to split xsolider into 3 packages because: > * both raw X version and SDL version are available and only > o

Re: changelog and /usr/share/doc/package as a symlink

2002-04-27 Thread Junichi Uekawa
Oohara Yuuma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> cum veritate scripsit: > > Don't just split without good reason. > I am planning to split xsolider into 3 packages because: > * both raw X version and SDL version are available and only > one of them is enough to play the game > * I don't see any reason why each

Re: how to package gpgp again

2002-04-27 Thread Oohara Yuuma
On 27 Apr 2002 08:49:06 +0200, Robert Bihlmeyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The problem is that I hear gpgp is dead upstream. So unless > someone (you?) takes up upstream maintainership, maybe it is still > better for its users to migrate to seahorse. They can do this at their > own pace, of cour

Re: changelog and /usr/share/doc/package as a symlink

2002-04-27 Thread Oohara Yuuma
On Sat, 27 Apr 2002 10:01:29 -0700 (PDT), "Sean 'Shaleh' Perry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Don't just split without good reason. I am planning to split xsolider into 3 packages because: * both raw X version and SDL version are available and only one of them is enough to play the game * I don't

Re: Two questions about the build process

2002-04-27 Thread Grant Bowman
* Henrique de Moraes Holschuh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [020423 12:17]: > On Tue, 23 Apr 2002, Yves Arrouye wrote: > > Package has a Depends on icu which cannot be satisfied on hurd-i386. > > Package has a Depends on icu which cannot be satisfied on sh. > > > > Do I need to care about these? There is no

Re: changelog and /usr/share/doc/package as a symlink

2002-04-27 Thread Junichi Uekawa
"Joel Baker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> cum veritate scripsit: > 'Is the -data package arch-independant, and large enough to save lots of > disk on the mirrors?' That's pretty subjective, about "lots of disk". A more solid reasoning: 'Are the upstream source packages distributed as different tarballs?'

Re: how to package gpgp again

2002-04-27 Thread christophe barbé
On Sun, Apr 28, 2002 at 01:26:39AM +0900, Oohara Yuuma wrote: > On Sat, 27 Apr 2002 10:58:06 -0400, > christophe barbé <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Last time I checked (It was not yesterday), gpa was better than > > seahorse. > I tested gpa 0.4.2-2 and it took more than 1 hour to start. > I don't

Re: Two questions about the build process

2002-04-27 Thread Grant Bowman
* Henrique de Moraes Holschuh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [020423 12:17]: > On Tue, 23 Apr 2002, Yves Arrouye wrote: > > Package has a Depends on icu which cannot be satisfied on hurd-i386. > > Package has a Depends on icu which cannot be satisfied on sh. > > > > Do I need to care about these? There is n

Re: changelog and /usr/share/doc/package as a symlink

2002-04-27 Thread Junichi Uekawa
"Joel Baker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> cum veritate scripsit: > 'Is the -data package arch-independant, and large enough to save lots of > disk on the mirrors?' That's pretty subjective, about "lots of disk". A more solid reasoning: 'Are the upstream source packages distributed as different tarballs?

Re: how to package gpgp again

2002-04-27 Thread christophe barbé
On Sun, Apr 28, 2002 at 01:26:39AM +0900, Oohara Yuuma wrote: > On Sat, 27 Apr 2002 10:58:06 -0400, > christophe barbé <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Last time I checked (It was not yesterday), gpa was better than > > seahorse. > I tested gpa 0.4.2-2 and it took more than 1 hour to start. > I don'

Re: changelog and /usr/share/doc/package as a symlink

2002-04-27 Thread Joel Baker
On Sat, Apr 27, 2002 at 10:01:29AM -0700, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote: > > On 27-Apr-2002 Oohara Yuuma wrote: > > Suppose that a source package makes two .deb, "package-data" and "package" > > (which depends on "package-data"), and /usr/share/doc/package is a symlink > > to /usr/share/doc/package-da

Re: Sponsor search for linkchecker

2002-04-27 Thread Bastian Kleineidam
On Sat, Apr 27, 2002 at 01:22:58PM -0500, Luis Bustamante wrote: > On Sat, Apr 27, 2002 at 04:44:29PM +0200, Bastian Kleineidam wrote: > > Hi folks, > > > > some people may have noticed that my linkchecker package [1] is very > > out of date. > > Well, this is mainly because my GPG key expired and

Re: Sponsor search for linkchecker

2002-04-27 Thread Luis Bustamante
On Sat, Apr 27, 2002 at 04:44:29PM +0200, Bastian Kleineidam wrote: > Hi folks, > > some people may have noticed that my linkchecker package [1] is very > out of date. > Well, this is mainly because my GPG key expired and I am waiting now > a long time to get the new key [2] into the keyring. > >

Re: how to package gpgp again

2002-04-27 Thread Oohara Yuuma
On Sat, 27 Apr 2002 10:58:06 -0400, christophe barbé <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Last time I checked (It was not yesterday), gpa was better than > seahorse. I tested gpa 0.4.2-2 and it took more than 1 hour to start. I don't know about 0.4.3-2. -- Oohara Yuuma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Debian develope

Re: changelog and /usr/share/doc/package as a symlink

2002-04-27 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 27-Apr-2002 Junichi Uekawa wrote: > Oohara Yuuma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> cum veritate scripsit: > >> Suppose that a source package makes two .deb, "package-data" and "package" >> (which depends on "package-data"), and /usr/share/doc/package is a symlink >> to /usr/share/doc/package-data . Should

Re: changelog and /usr/share/doc/package as a symlink

2002-04-27 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 27-Apr-2002 Oohara Yuuma wrote: > Suppose that a source package makes two .deb, "package-data" and "package" > (which depends on "package-data"), and /usr/share/doc/package is a symlink > to /usr/share/doc/package-data . Should "package" depend on exactly the > same version of "package-data"?

Re: changelog and /usr/share/doc/package as a symlink

2002-04-27 Thread Junichi Uekawa
Oohara Yuuma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> cum veritate scripsit: > Suppose that a source package makes two .deb, "package-data" and "package" > (which depends on "package-data"), and /usr/share/doc/package is a symlink > to /usr/share/doc/package-data . Should "package" depend on exactly the > same versio

Re: dchroot (?) on developer machines

2002-04-27 Thread Junichi Uekawa
James Troup <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> cum veritate scripsit: > > Ideally, I'd like to do what buildd does, but without uploading a > > possibly broken package first > > Unless you're testing something architecture specific, you're probably > better off testing this locally. You can use debootstrap

Re: shlibdeps

2002-04-27 Thread Junichi Uekawa
Hamish Moffatt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> cum veritate scripsit: > > I got a package which depends on Tcl/Tk. It can work with either Tcl/Tk > > 8.0, 8.2 or 8.3. > > If I simply put "${shlib:depends}" in my control file, then the package > > depends on the version I have on the system I used to build the

Re: changelog and /usr/share/doc/package as a symlink

2002-04-27 Thread Gergely Nagy
> allows any version > -> changelog may be out of date if only "package" is upgraded > > depneds on the same version > -> forces the user to download huge "package-data" on each upgrade How about >= some-version? This way, you can bump the version in the -data package when the license changes, et

Re: changelog and /usr/share/doc/package as a symlink

2002-04-27 Thread Joel Baker
On Sat, Apr 27, 2002 at 10:01:29AM -0700, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote: > > On 27-Apr-2002 Oohara Yuuma wrote: > > Suppose that a source package makes two .deb, "package-data" and "package" > > (which depends on "package-data"), and /usr/share/doc/package is a symlink > > to /usr/share/doc/package-d

changelog and /usr/share/doc/package as a symlink

2002-04-27 Thread Oohara Yuuma
Suppose that a source package makes two .deb, "package-data" and "package" (which depends on "package-data"), and /usr/share/doc/package is a symlink to /usr/share/doc/package-data . Should "package" depend on exactly the same version of "package-data"? allows any version -> changelog may be out

Re: Sponsor search for linkchecker

2002-04-27 Thread Bastian Kleineidam
On Sat, Apr 27, 2002 at 01:22:58PM -0500, Luis Bustamante wrote: > On Sat, Apr 27, 2002 at 04:44:29PM +0200, Bastian Kleineidam wrote: > > Hi folks, > > > > some people may have noticed that my linkchecker package [1] is very > > out of date. > > Well, this is mainly because my GPG key expired an

Re: Sponsor search for linkchecker

2002-04-27 Thread Luis Bustamante
On Sat, Apr 27, 2002 at 04:44:29PM +0200, Bastian Kleineidam wrote: > Hi folks, > > some people may have noticed that my linkchecker package [1] is very > out of date. > Well, this is mainly because my GPG key expired and I am waiting now > a long time to get the new key [2] into the keyring. >

Re: Multiple configure-make cycles

2002-04-27 Thread Bastian Kleineidam
Hi, On Sat, Apr 27, 2002 at 11:06:59AM -0400, Joey Hess wrote: > That sounds redundant, what's wrong with building once with -g, linking > shared, stripping, calling that one package, and then linking w/o > stripping for the -dbg package? The configure.in has different -D defines for debugging, s

Re: lib sdl

2002-04-27 Thread Christian Marillat
>> "JM" == Jérôme Marant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Andrea Mennucc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> hi >> >> I am helping packaging mplayer; it depends on libsdl; >> I see that there is a libsdl1.2debian* series, and I heard >> that this is the best to be used in Debian; problem is, there is no

Re: Multiple configure-make cycles

2002-04-27 Thread Joey Hess
Bastian Kleineidam wrote: > On Fri, Apr 26, 2002 at 07:08:26PM -0700, David Caldwell wrote: > > Instead of building in the source dir, create 2 build directories, cd to > > each and ../configure with different options. Then in the make section, cd > > into each build dir and make. So essentially

Re: how to package gpgp again

2002-04-27 Thread christophe barbé
On Sat, Apr 27, 2002 at 08:49:06AM +0200, Robert Bihlmeyer wrote: > > I admit seahorse is better than gpgp, but gpgp seems rather popular > > according to popcon, so I want to package gpgp again. > > The problem is that I hear gpgp is dead upstream. So unless > someone (you?) takes up upstream mai

Re: lib sdl

2002-04-27 Thread Jérôme Marant
Andrea Mennucc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > hi > > I am helping packaging mplayer; it depends on libsdl; > I see that there is a libsdl1.2debian* series, and I heard > that this is the best to be used in Debian; problem is, there is no > libsdl1.2debian-dev, so I don't understand what we should

Re: how to package gpgp again

2002-04-27 Thread Oohara Yuuma
On Sat, 27 Apr 2002 10:58:06 -0400, christophe barbé <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Last time I checked (It was not yesterday), gpa was better than > seahorse. I tested gpa 0.4.2-2 and it took more than 1 hour to start. I don't know about 0.4.3-2. -- Oohara Yuuma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Debian develop

Re: lib sdl

2002-04-27 Thread Julien LEMOINE
On Saturday 27 April 2002 16:32, Andrea Mennucc wrote: > I am helping packaging mplayer; it depends on libsdl; > I see that there is a libsdl1.2debian* series, and I heard > that this is the best to be used in Debian; problem is, there is no > libsdl1.2debian-dev, so I don't understand what we sho

Re: changelog and /usr/share/doc/package as a symlink

2002-04-27 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 27-Apr-2002 Junichi Uekawa wrote: > Oohara Yuuma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> cum veritate scripsit: > >> Suppose that a source package makes two .deb, "package-data" and "package" >> (which depends on "package-data"), and /usr/share/doc/package is a symlink >> to /usr/share/doc/package-data . Should

Re: changelog and /usr/share/doc/package as a symlink

2002-04-27 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 27-Apr-2002 Oohara Yuuma wrote: > Suppose that a source package makes two .deb, "package-data" and "package" > (which depends on "package-data"), and /usr/share/doc/package is a symlink > to /usr/share/doc/package-data . Should "package" depend on exactly the > same version of "package-data"?

Re: changelog and /usr/share/doc/package as a symlink

2002-04-27 Thread Junichi Uekawa
Oohara Yuuma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> cum veritate scripsit: > Suppose that a source package makes two .deb, "package-data" and "package" > (which depends on "package-data"), and /usr/share/doc/package is a symlink > to /usr/share/doc/package-data . Should "package" depend on exactly the > same versi

Sponsor search for linkchecker

2002-04-27 Thread Bastian Kleineidam
Hi folks, some people may have noticed that my linkchecker package [1] is very out of date. Well, this is mainly because my GPG key expired and I am waiting now a long time to get the new key [2] into the keyring. In the meantime, would someone please sponsor an upload of the current version 1.4.

Re: dchroot (?) on developer machines

2002-04-27 Thread Junichi Uekawa
James Troup <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> cum veritate scripsit: > > Ideally, I'd like to do what buildd does, but without uploading a > > possibly broken package first > > Unless you're testing something architecture specific, you're probably > better off testing this locally. You can use debootstrap

Re: shlibdeps

2002-04-27 Thread Junichi Uekawa
Hamish Moffatt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> cum veritate scripsit: > > I got a package which depends on Tcl/Tk. It can work with either Tcl/Tk > > 8.0, 8.2 or 8.3. > > If I simply put "${shlib:depends}" in my control file, then the package > > depends on the version I have on the system I used to build th

lib sdl

2002-04-27 Thread Andrea Mennucc
hi I am helping packaging mplayer; it depends on libsdl; I see that there is a libsdl1.2debian* series, and I heard that this is the best to be used in Debian; problem is, there is no libsdl1.2debian-dev, so I don't understand what we should put in Depends and Build-depends fields. thanks a.

Re: changelog and /usr/share/doc/package as a symlink

2002-04-27 Thread Gergely Nagy
> allows any version > -> changelog may be out of date if only "package" is upgraded > > depneds on the same version > -> forces the user to download huge "package-data" on each upgrade How about >= some-version? This way, you can bump the version in the -data package when the license changes, e

changelog and /usr/share/doc/package as a symlink

2002-04-27 Thread Oohara Yuuma
Suppose that a source package makes two .deb, "package-data" and "package" (which depends on "package-data"), and /usr/share/doc/package is a symlink to /usr/share/doc/package-data . Should "package" depend on exactly the same version of "package-data"? allows any version -> changelog may be out

Re: Multiple configure-make cycles

2002-04-27 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le sam 27/04/2002 à 11:02, Bastian Kleineidam a écrit : > Hi, > > On Fri, Apr 26, 2002 at 07:08:26PM -0700, David Caldwell wrote: > > Instead of building in the source dir, create 2 build directories, cd to > > each and ../configure with different options. Then in the make section, cd > > into e

Re: Multiple configure-make cycles

2002-04-27 Thread Bastian Kleineidam
Hi, On Sat, Apr 27, 2002 at 11:06:59AM -0400, Joey Hess wrote: > That sounds redundant, what's wrong with building once with -g, linking > shared, stripping, calling that one package, and then linking w/o > stripping for the -dbg package? The configure.in has different -D defines for debugging,

Re: lib sdl

2002-04-27 Thread Christian Marillat
>> "JM" == Jérôme Marant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Andrea Mennucc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> hi >> >> I am helping packaging mplayer; it depends on libsdl; >> I see that there is a libsdl1.2debian* series, and I heard >> that this is the best to be used in Debian; problem is, there is n

Re: Multiple configure-make cycles

2002-04-27 Thread Joey Hess
Bastian Kleineidam wrote: > On Fri, Apr 26, 2002 at 07:08:26PM -0700, David Caldwell wrote: > > Instead of building in the source dir, create 2 build directories, cd to > > each and ../configure with different options. Then in the make section, cd > > into each build dir and make. So essentially

Re: how to package gpgp again

2002-04-27 Thread christophe barbé
On Sat, Apr 27, 2002 at 08:49:06AM +0200, Robert Bihlmeyer wrote: > > I admit seahorse is better than gpgp, but gpgp seems rather popular > > according to popcon, so I want to package gpgp again. > > The problem is that I hear gpgp is dead upstream. So unless > someone (you?) takes up upstream ma

Re: lib sdl

2002-04-27 Thread Jérôme Marant
Andrea Mennucc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > hi > > I am helping packaging mplayer; it depends on libsdl; > I see that there is a libsdl1.2debian* series, and I heard > that this is the best to be used in Debian; problem is, there is no > libsdl1.2debian-dev, so I don't understand what we shoul

Re: lib sdl

2002-04-27 Thread Julien LEMOINE
On Saturday 27 April 2002 16:32, Andrea Mennucc wrote: > I am helping packaging mplayer; it depends on libsdl; > I see that there is a libsdl1.2debian* series, and I heard > that this is the best to be used in Debian; problem is, there is no > libsdl1.2debian-dev, so I don't understand what we sh

Sponsor search for linkchecker

2002-04-27 Thread Bastian Kleineidam
Hi folks, some people may have noticed that my linkchecker package [1] is very out of date. Well, this is mainly because my GPG key expired and I am waiting now a long time to get the new key [2] into the keyring. In the meantime, would someone please sponsor an upload of the current version 1.4

lib sdl

2002-04-27 Thread Andrea Mennucc
hi I am helping packaging mplayer; it depends on libsdl; I see that there is a libsdl1.2debian* series, and I heard that this is the best to be used in Debian; problem is, there is no libsdl1.2debian-dev, so I don't understand what we should put in Depends and Build-depends fields. thanks a.

Re: Multiple configure-make cycles

2002-04-27 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le sam 27/04/2002 à 11:02, Bastian Kleineidam a écrit : > Hi, > > On Fri, Apr 26, 2002 at 07:08:26PM -0700, David Caldwell wrote: > > Instead of building in the source dir, create 2 build directories, cd to > > each and ../configure with different options. Then in the make section, cd > > into

Re: Multiple configure-make cycles

2002-04-27 Thread Bastian Kleineidam
Hi, On Fri, Apr 26, 2002 at 07:08:26PM -0700, David Caldwell wrote: > Instead of building in the source dir, create 2 build directories, cd to > each and ../configure with different options. Then in the make section, cd > into each build dir and make. So essentially you are building the differen

Re: Multiple configure-make cycles

2002-04-27 Thread Robert Bihlmeyer
David Caldwell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Even better than what I just said above is to make a source dir and 2 > build dirs, like so: > > > /source-tree > /build1 > /build2 > /debian > > That way the source files are nicely separated from the build files. > Binutils organizes itself this

Re: how to package gpgp again

2002-04-27 Thread Robert Bihlmeyer
Oohara Yuuma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > * gpgp should be in main (gpgp contains no crypto code --- all crypto things > are done by calling gpg) So gpgp should be where gnupg is. Today that's main, you're right on that. > I admit seahorse is better than gpgp, but gpgp seems rather popular >

Re: Multiple configure-make cycles

2002-04-27 Thread Bastian Kleineidam
Hi, On Fri, Apr 26, 2002 at 07:08:26PM -0700, David Caldwell wrote: > Instead of building in the source dir, create 2 build directories, cd to > each and ../configure with different options. Then in the make section, cd > into each build dir and make. So essentially you are building the differe

Re: Multiple configure-make cycles

2002-04-27 Thread Robert Bihlmeyer
David Caldwell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Even better than what I just said above is to make a source dir and 2 > build dirs, like so: > > > /source-tree > /build1 > /build2 > /debian > > That way the source files are nicely separated from the build files. > Binutils organizes itself this

Re: how to package gpgp again

2002-04-27 Thread Robert Bihlmeyer
Oohara Yuuma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > * gpgp should be in main (gpgp contains no crypto code --- all crypto things > are done by calling gpg) So gpgp should be where gnupg is. Today that's main, you're right on that. > I admit seahorse is better than gpgp, but gpgp seems rather popular >