Re: use and abuse of Debconf, follows-up

2001-02-02 Thread Bradley Bell
On Fri, Feb 02, 2001 at 04:03:44PM +0100, J?r?me Marant wrote: > Mark Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > On Fri, Feb 02, 2001 at 02:52:32PM +0100, J=E9r=F4me Marant wrote: > > > Tollef Fog Heen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >=20 > > > > Don't mark the file as a conffile? > >=20 > > > Ok, bu

RE: Getting started

2001-02-02 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 02-Feb-2001 William Burrow wrote: > I have decided to rescue one of the orphaned packages slated for removal > from Debian. I wonder if anyone can lend me a hand getting started. > The New Maintainers' doc and Debian Developers' docs have been helpful, > but I have more questions. e.g. Does m

Getting started

2001-02-02 Thread William Burrow
I have decided to rescue one of the orphaned packages slated for removal from Debian. I wonder if anyone can lend me a hand getting started. The New Maintainers' doc and Debian Developers' docs have been helpful, but I have more questions. e.g. Does my gpg key need to be signed (I live in the sti

Re: use and abuse of Debconf, follows-up

2001-02-02 Thread Bradley Bell
On Fri, Feb 02, 2001 at 04:03:44PM +0100, J?r?me Marant wrote: > Mark Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > On Fri, Feb 02, 2001 at 02:52:32PM +0100, J=E9r=F4me Marant wrote: > > > Tollef Fog Heen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >=20 > > > > Don't mark the file as a conffile? > >=20 > > > Ok, b

RE: Getting started

2001-02-02 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 02-Feb-2001 William Burrow wrote: > I have decided to rescue one of the orphaned packages slated for removal > from Debian. I wonder if anyone can lend me a hand getting started. > The New Maintainers' doc and Debian Developers' docs have been helpful, > but I have more questions. e.g. Does

Getting started

2001-02-02 Thread William Burrow
I have decided to rescue one of the orphaned packages slated for removal from Debian. I wonder if anyone can lend me a hand getting started. The New Maintainers' doc and Debian Developers' docs have been helpful, but I have more questions. e.g. Does my gpg key need to be signed (I live in the st

Re: Maintainer qualification

2001-02-02 Thread Britton
On 1 Feb 2001, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > >>"Marcus" == Marcus Brinkmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Marcus> On Thu, Feb 01, 2001 at 03:35:53PM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > >> > >> Have we accepted that mediocrity is really our lot? What > >> happened to the quest for excellence? I joi

Re: use and abuse of Debconf, follows-up

2001-02-02 Thread Mark Brown
On Fri, Feb 02, 2001 at 04:03:44PM +0100, Jérôme Marant wrote: > So, if I understood correctly, I could do something like this in the > postinst : > # Copying a default file if it does not exist > if [ ! -f /etc/myconf.conf ]; then > cp /usr/share/doc/mypackage/examples/myco

Re: Maintainer qualification

2001-02-02 Thread Britton
On 1 Feb 2001, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > >>"Marcus" == Marcus Brinkmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Marcus> On Thu, Feb 01, 2001 at 03:35:53PM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > >> > >> Have we accepted that mediocrity is really our lot? What > >> happened to the quest for excellence? I jo

RE: Q: How-To Submit patches

2001-02-02 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
> > So recipient has to use patch -p1 (or rename his archive) right? > Do you tell them or just let'em figure it out? > > mv pkg pkg.orig > diff -pruN pkg.orig pkg > > is too dangerous (for the recipient)? > patch is very smart. It can figure out what files to patch even if the dir names have

Re: use and abuse of Debconf, follows-up

2001-02-02 Thread Mark Brown
On Fri, Feb 02, 2001 at 04:03:44PM +0100, Jérôme Marant wrote: > So, if I understood correctly, I could do something like this in the > postinst : > # Copying a default file if it does not exist > if [ ! -f /etc/myconf.conf ]; then > cp /usr/share/doc/mypackage/examples/mycon

Re: use and abuse of Debconf, follows-up

2001-02-02 Thread Jérôme Marant
Mark Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Fri, Feb 02, 2001 at 02:52:32PM +0100, Jérôme Marant wrote: > > Tollef Fog Heen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > Don't mark the file as a conffile? > > > Ok, but how can I keep the file unmodified across upgrades ? > > Don't include it in the p

Re: use and abuse of Debconf, follows-up

2001-02-02 Thread Mark Brown
On Fri, Feb 02, 2001 at 02:52:32PM +0100, Jérôme Marant wrote: > Tollef Fog Heen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Don't mark the file as a conffile? > Ok, but how can I keep the file unmodified across upgrades ? Don't include it in the package at all and have your scripts update it as needed.

Re: use and abuse of Debconf, follows-up

2001-02-02 Thread Jérôme Marant
Tollef Fog Heen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Don't mark the file as a conffile? Ok, but how can I keep the file unmodified across upgrades ? -- Jérôme Marant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --- Debian Activity Page: http://jerome.marant.free.fr/debian -

RE: Q: How-To Submit patches

2001-02-02 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
> > So recipient has to use patch -p1 (or rename his archive) right? > Do you tell them or just let'em figure it out? > > mv pkg pkg.orig > diff -pruN pkg.orig pkg > > is too dangerous (for the recipient)? > patch is very smart. It can figure out what files to patch even if the dir names hav

Re: use and abuse of Debconf, follows-up

2001-02-02 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
* (Jérôme Marant) | I know I'm not doing The Right Thing since I'm modifying conffiles | but I don't understand why this would not be elegant and disgusting. Because you'll get questions from dpkg about a changed conffile. | I would apreciate any suggestion for improving this. Don't ma

Re: lintian: binary-has-unneeded-section

2001-02-02 Thread Drew Parsons
On Fri, Feb 02, 2001 at 03:14:13AM -1000, Brian Russo wrote: > > > > Would the stripping all be done automatically and properly if I just ran > > dh_strip on its own? > > Assuming it's located correctly in the rules, ya, > OK, I'll give it a go. Thanks! Drew -- PGP public key

Re: lintian: binary-has-unneeded-section

2001-02-02 Thread Brian Russo
On Fri, Feb 02, 2001 at 11:56:30PM +1100, Drew Parsons wrote: > On Fri, Feb 02, 2001 at 01:42:08PM +0100, Adrian Bunk wrote: > > On Fri, 2 Feb 2001, Drew Parsons wrote: > > strip --remove-section=.comment --remove-section=.note --strip-unneeded > > debian/tmp/usr/lib/libmeschach.so.1.2 > > > >

Re: lintian: binary-has-unneeded-section

2001-02-02 Thread Drew Parsons
On Fri, Feb 02, 2001 at 01:42:08PM +0100, Adrian Bunk wrote: > On Fri, 2 Feb 2001, Drew Parsons wrote: > > >... > > W: meschach: binary-has-unneeded-section ./usr/lib/libmeschach.so.1.2 .note > > W: meschach: binary-has-unneeded-section ./usr/lib/libmeschach.so.1.2 > > .comment > > > > > > I got

Re: use and abuse of Debconf, follows-up

2001-02-02 Thread Jérôme Marant
Mark Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Fri, Feb 02, 2001 at 02:52:32PM +0100, Jérôme Marant wrote: > > Tollef Fog Heen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > Don't mark the file as a conffile? > > > Ok, but how can I keep the file unmodified across upgrades ? > > Don't include it in the pa

Re: lintian: binary-has-unneeded-section

2001-02-02 Thread Drew Parsons
On Fri, Feb 02, 2001 at 01:21:28PM +0100, Domenico Andreoli wrote: > On Fri, Feb 02, 2001 at 11:17:23PM +1100, Drew Parsons wrote: > > Getting back to the meschach libraries, which I was asking about a little > > while ago, when I run lintian on the built packages, I get the following > > error rep

Re: lintian: binary-has-unneeded-section

2001-02-02 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Fri, 2 Feb 2001, Drew Parsons wrote: >... > W: meschach: binary-has-unneeded-section ./usr/lib/libmeschach.so.1.2 .note > W: meschach: binary-has-unneeded-section ./usr/lib/libmeschach.so.1.2 .comment > > > I got no idea whatsoever what the second two messages mean. I'm compiling > the library

Re: lintian: binary-has-unneeded-section

2001-02-02 Thread Domenico Andreoli
On Fri, Feb 02, 2001 at 11:17:23PM +1100, Drew Parsons wrote: > Getting back to the meschach libraries, which I was asking about a little > while ago, when I run lintian on the built packages, I get the following > error report: > > W: meschach-dev: postinst-has-useless-call-to-ldconfig > W: mesc

Re: use and abuse of Debconf, follows-up

2001-02-02 Thread Mark Brown
On Fri, Feb 02, 2001 at 02:52:32PM +0100, Jérôme Marant wrote: > Tollef Fog Heen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Don't mark the file as a conffile? > Ok, but how can I keep the file unmodified across upgrades ? Don't include it in the package at all and have your scripts update it as needed.

lintian: binary-has-unneeded-section

2001-02-02 Thread Drew Parsons
Getting back to the meschach libraries, which I was asking about a little while ago, when I run lintian on the built packages, I get the following error report: W: meschach-dev: postinst-has-useless-call-to-ldconfig W: meschach: binary-has-unneeded-section ./usr/lib/libmeschach.so.1.2 .note W: me

Re: dpkg-statoverride sucks

2001-02-02 Thread Drew Parsons
On Thu, Feb 01, 2001 at 11:52:31AM -0800, Joey Hess wrote: > Drew Parsons wrote: > > Anyway, I tried also using dpkg-statoverride in postinst to set the mode for > > /usr/lib/games/mirrormagic, not just /var/lib... and do get the same > > problem: > > > > warning: --update given but /usr/lib/game

Re: use and abuse of Debconf, follows-up

2001-02-02 Thread Jérôme Marant
Tollef Fog Heen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Don't mark the file as a conffile? Ok, but how can I keep the file unmodified across upgrades ? -- Jérôme Marant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --- Debian Activity Page: http://jerome.marant.free.fr/debian --

use and abuse of Debconf, follows-up

2001-02-02 Thread Jérôme Marant
Hi, I'm working on a set of packages that use debconf a lot. Each package have its own configuration file and I decided to make them conffiles as I want them to be kept during upgrades. However, Policy does not allow conffiles to be modified by maintainers scripts. Up till now, I h

Re: use and abuse of Debconf, follows-up

2001-02-02 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
* (Jérôme Marant) | I know I'm not doing The Right Thing since I'm modifying conffiles | but I don't understand why this would not be elegant and disgusting. Because you'll get questions from dpkg about a changed conffile. | I would apreciate any suggestion for improving this. Don't mar

Re: lintian: binary-has-unneeded-section

2001-02-02 Thread Drew Parsons
On Fri, Feb 02, 2001 at 03:14:13AM -1000, Brian Russo wrote: > > > > Would the stripping all be done automatically and properly if I just ran > > dh_strip on its own? > > Assuming it's located correctly in the rules, ya, > OK, I'll give it a go. Thanks! Drew -- PGP public key

Re: lintian: binary-has-unneeded-section

2001-02-02 Thread Brian Russo
On Fri, Feb 02, 2001 at 11:56:30PM +1100, Drew Parsons wrote: > On Fri, Feb 02, 2001 at 01:42:08PM +0100, Adrian Bunk wrote: > > On Fri, 2 Feb 2001, Drew Parsons wrote: > > strip --remove-section=.comment --remove-section=.note --strip-unneeded >debian/tmp/usr/lib/libmeschach.so.1.2 > > > > Oh

Re: lintian: binary-has-unneeded-section

2001-02-02 Thread Drew Parsons
On Fri, Feb 02, 2001 at 01:42:08PM +0100, Adrian Bunk wrote: > On Fri, 2 Feb 2001, Drew Parsons wrote: > > >... > > W: meschach: binary-has-unneeded-section ./usr/lib/libmeschach.so.1.2 .note > > W: meschach: binary-has-unneeded-section ./usr/lib/libmeschach.so.1.2 .comment > > > > > > I got no i

Re: lintian: binary-has-unneeded-section

2001-02-02 Thread Drew Parsons
On Fri, Feb 02, 2001 at 01:21:28PM +0100, Domenico Andreoli wrote: > On Fri, Feb 02, 2001 at 11:17:23PM +1100, Drew Parsons wrote: > > Getting back to the meschach libraries, which I was asking about a little > > while ago, when I run lintian on the built packages, I get the following > > error re

Re: lintian: binary-has-unneeded-section

2001-02-02 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Fri, 2 Feb 2001, Drew Parsons wrote: >... > W: meschach: binary-has-unneeded-section ./usr/lib/libmeschach.so.1.2 .note > W: meschach: binary-has-unneeded-section ./usr/lib/libmeschach.so.1.2 .comment > > > I got no idea whatsoever what the second two messages mean. I'm compiling > the librar

Re: lintian: binary-has-unneeded-section

2001-02-02 Thread Domenico Andreoli
On Fri, Feb 02, 2001 at 11:17:23PM +1100, Drew Parsons wrote: > Getting back to the meschach libraries, which I was asking about a little > while ago, when I run lintian on the built packages, I get the following > error report: > > W: meschach-dev: postinst-has-useless-call-to-ldconfig > W: mes

lintian: binary-has-unneeded-section

2001-02-02 Thread Drew Parsons
Getting back to the meschach libraries, which I was asking about a little while ago, when I run lintian on the built packages, I get the following error report: W: meschach-dev: postinst-has-useless-call-to-ldconfig W: meschach: binary-has-unneeded-section ./usr/lib/libmeschach.so.1.2 .note W: m

Re: dpkg-statoverride sucks

2001-02-02 Thread Drew Parsons
On Thu, Feb 01, 2001 at 11:52:31AM -0800, Joey Hess wrote: > Drew Parsons wrote: > > Anyway, I tried also using dpkg-statoverride in postinst to set the mode for > > /usr/lib/games/mirrormagic, not just /var/lib... and do get the same problem: > > > > warning: --update given but /usr/lib/games/mi

use and abuse of Debconf, follows-up

2001-02-02 Thread Jérôme Marant
Hi, I'm working on a set of packages that use debconf a lot. Each package have its own configuration file and I decided to make them conffiles as I want them to be kept during upgrades. However, Policy does not allow conffiles to be modified by maintainers scripts. Up till now, I

Re: Depending on 2.4

2001-02-02 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Thursday 1 February 2001, at 17 h 8, the keyboard of Gordon Sadler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This program is arbitrarily changing MAC addresses? Sounds odd. DecNet v4 always worked that way. MAC addresses are constructed from level-3 addresses, so it needs no ARP.