RE: libraries

2000-10-09 Thread Simon Richter
On Mon, 9 Oct 2000, Yves Arrouye wrote: [...] > so I guess all the compilers they support also handle -o w/ -c nicely. I see. Have you reported the static initializer thing to the libtool maintainers? Simon -- GPG public key available from http://phobos.fs.tum.de/pgp/Simon.Richter.asc Fin

RE: libraries

2000-10-09 Thread Yves Arrouye
> > I don't use libtool because libtool has problems when gcc > is used with the > > platform's ld on Solaris for example: static initializers > aren't called. > > Does the Solaris runtime linker support that? It does for CC output, not for gcc. That's the problem. libtool should recognize that

RE: libraries

2000-10-09 Thread Yves Arrouye
> There are some strange commercial compilers out there that have this > problem. Since this is the upstream package, not the Debian one, you > cannot assume a certain compiler. Also, two suffixes don't > work with BSD > make. The library does require gmake :) I guess I could use .ao or whatever.

RE: libraries

2000-10-09 Thread Simon Richter
On Mon, 9 Oct 2000, Yves Arrouye wrote: [.static.o] > Do you mean that non-gcc compilers won't obey -o at the same time as -c? Possibly. > I don't use libtool because libtool has problems when gcc is used with the > platform's ld on Solaris for example: static initializers aren't called. Does

Re: libraries

2000-10-09 Thread Simon Richter
On Mon, 9 Oct 2000, Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho wrote: > > .static.o is bad because it is not portable to other compilers. > Um, what compilers do not allow the user to specify the input/output > file name? There are some strange commercial compilers out there that have this problem. Since this is th

RE: libraries

2000-10-09 Thread Yves Arrouye
> > In any case, since I'm one of the upstream maintainers of > the package I'm > > packaging, I just changed it so that it will compile both > .o and .static.o > > w/ different flags. But I'm still interested in clarifying > your answer. > > .static.o is bad because it is not portable to other

Re: libraries

2000-10-09 Thread Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho
On 20001009T214211+0200, Simon Richter wrote: > .static.o is bad because it is not portable to other compilers. Um, what compilers do not allow the user to specify the input/output file name? -- %%% Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho % [EMAIL PROTECTED] % http://www.iki.fi/gaia/ %%%

RE: libraries

2000-10-09 Thread Simon Richter
On Mon, 9 Oct 2000, Yves Arrouye wrote: [Compiling a library, --enable-shared and --enable-static] > "All libraries must have a shared version in the lib package and a static > version in the lib-dev package. The shared version must be compiled with > -fPIC, and the static version must not be. In

RE: libraries

2000-10-09 Thread Yves Arrouye
> > Any well-known trick to compile the .c twice w/o changing > too much of the > > original package? For example, does it make sense to > configure in two > > different locations, once with --enable-shared and once with > > --enable-static, for example? Do we have an example of a > small librar

RE: libraries

2000-10-09 Thread Simon Richter
On Mon, 9 Oct 2000, Yves Arrouye wrote: > Any well-known trick to compile the .c twice w/o changing too much of the > original package? For example, does it make sense to configure in two > different locations, once with --enable-shared and once with > --enable-static, for example? Do we have an e

RE: libraries

2000-10-09 Thread Simon Richter
On Mon, 9 Oct 2000, Yves Arrouye wrote: [...] > so I guess all the compilers they support also handle -o w/ -c nicely. I see. Have you reported the static initializer thing to the libtool maintainers? Simon -- GPG public key available from http://phobos.fs.tum.de/pgp/Simon.Richter.asc Fi

RE: libraries

2000-10-09 Thread Yves Arrouye
> > I don't use libtool because libtool has problems when gcc > is used with the > > platform's ld on Solaris for example: static initializers > aren't called. > > Does the Solaris runtime linker support that? It does for CC output, not for gcc. That's the problem. libtool should recognize tha

RE: libraries

2000-10-09 Thread Yves Arrouye
> There are some strange commercial compilers out there that have this > problem. Since this is the upstream package, not the Debian one, you > cannot assume a certain compiler. Also, two suffixes don't > work with BSD > make. The library does require gmake :) I guess I could use .ao or whatever

RE: libraries

2000-10-09 Thread Yves Arrouye
> Alexander Kotelnikov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >But I want to know where it is written about what should go to -dev > >package, and what to the library one. > > /usr/share/doc/debian-policy/policy.html/ch4.html#s4.3 > /usr/share/doc/packaging-manual/packaging.html/ch-sharedlibs.html Any

RE: libraries

2000-10-09 Thread Simon Richter
On Mon, 9 Oct 2000, Yves Arrouye wrote: [.static.o] > Do you mean that non-gcc compilers won't obey -o at the same time as -c? Possibly. > I don't use libtool because libtool has problems when gcc is used with the > platform's ld on Solaris for example: static initializers aren't called. Does

Re: libraries

2000-10-09 Thread Simon Richter
On Mon, 9 Oct 2000, Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho wrote: > > .static.o is bad because it is not portable to other compilers. > Um, what compilers do not allow the user to specify the input/output > file name? There are some strange commercial compilers out there that have this problem. Since this is t

RE: libraries

2000-10-09 Thread Yves Arrouye
> > In any case, since I'm one of the upstream maintainers of > the package I'm > > packaging, I just changed it so that it will compile both > .o and .static.o > > w/ different flags. But I'm still interested in clarifying > your answer. > > .static.o is bad because it is not portable to othe

Re: libraries

2000-10-09 Thread Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho
On 20001009T214211+0200, Simon Richter wrote: > .static.o is bad because it is not portable to other compilers. Um, what compilers do not allow the user to specify the input/output file name? -- %%% Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho % [EMAIL PROTECTED] % http://www.iki.fi/gaia/ %%% -- To UNSUBSCRIBE,

RE: libraries

2000-10-09 Thread Simon Richter
On Mon, 9 Oct 2000, Yves Arrouye wrote: [Compiling a library, --enable-shared and --enable-static] > "All libraries must have a shared version in the lib package and a static > version in the lib-dev package. The shared version must be compiled with > -fPIC, and the static version must not be. I

RE: libraries

2000-10-09 Thread Yves Arrouye
> > Any well-known trick to compile the .c twice w/o changing > too much of the > > original package? For example, does it make sense to > configure in two > > different locations, once with --enable-shared and once with > > --enable-static, for example? Do we have an example of a > small libra

RE: libraries

2000-10-09 Thread Simon Richter
On Mon, 9 Oct 2000, Yves Arrouye wrote: > Any well-known trick to compile the .c twice w/o changing too much of the > original package? For example, does it make sense to configure in two > different locations, once with --enable-shared and once with > --enable-static, for example? Do we have an

RE: libraries

2000-10-09 Thread Yves Arrouye
> Alexander Kotelnikov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >But I want to know where it is written about what should go to -dev > >package, and what to the library one. > > /usr/share/doc/debian-policy/policy.html/ch4.html#s4.3 > /usr/share/doc/packaging-manual/packaging.html/ch-sharedlibs.html Any

Re: automatic forward of bugreports upstream?

2000-10-09 Thread Christian Surchi
On Mon, Oct 09, 2000 at 07:43:35AM -0500, Christian T. Steigies wrote: > Procmail sounds good, but I use procmail only on my machine, and bug reports > end on a debian machine and I do not intend to change that (yet). Ah, your mail to debian.org address is not forwarded all to another address? If

Re: automatic forward of bugreports upstream?

2000-10-09 Thread Christian T. Steigies
Moin, On Mon, Oct 09, 2000 at 02:37:02PM +0200, Adrian Bunk wrote: > On Mon, 9 Oct 2000, Christian T. Steigies wrote: > > > is it possible to get bugreports of a package automatically forwarded/copied > > upstream? The author of one of my packages wants that (without being the > > maintainer himse

Re: automatic forward of bugreports upstream?

2000-10-09 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Mon, 9 Oct 2000, Christian T. Steigies wrote: > Hi, Hi Christian, > is it possible to get bugreports of a package automatically forwarded/copied > upstream? The author of one of my packages wants that (without being the > maintainer himself). do you really want to forward all "missing build

Re: automatic forward of bugreports upstream?

2000-10-09 Thread Christian Surchi
On Mon, Oct 09, 2000 at 02:02:36PM +0200, Christian T. Steigies wrote: > Hi, > is it possible to get bugreports of a package automatically forwarded/copied > upstream? The author of one of my packages wants that (without being the > maintainer himself). Use your procmail/maildrop to do it. :) --

automatic forward of bugreports upstream?

2000-10-09 Thread Christian T. Steigies
Hi, is it possible to get bugreports of a package automatically forwarded/copied upstream? The author of one of my packages wants that (without being the maintainer himself). Christian

Re: Trying to begin

2000-10-09 Thread Frederico S. Muñoz
- Original Message - From: "Simon Richter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Frederico S. Muñoz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: Sent: Monday, October 09, 2000 6:22 AM Subject: Re: Trying to begin > On 9 Oct 2000, Frederico S. Muñoz wrote: > > > Having said that, I would like to know if extensive use

Re: automatic forward of bugreports upstream?

2000-10-09 Thread Christian Surchi
On Mon, Oct 09, 2000 at 07:43:35AM -0500, Christian T. Steigies wrote: > Procmail sounds good, but I use procmail only on my machine, and bug reports > end on a debian machine and I do not intend to change that (yet). Ah, your mail to debian.org address is not forwarded all to another address? I

Re: automatic forward of bugreports upstream?

2000-10-09 Thread Christian T. Steigies
Moin, On Mon, Oct 09, 2000 at 02:37:02PM +0200, Adrian Bunk wrote: > On Mon, 9 Oct 2000, Christian T. Steigies wrote: > > > is it possible to get bugreports of a package automatically forwarded/copied > > upstream? The author of one of my packages wants that (without being the > > maintainer hims

Re: automatic forward of bugreports upstream?

2000-10-09 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Mon, 9 Oct 2000, Christian T. Steigies wrote: > Hi, Hi Christian, > is it possible to get bugreports of a package automatically forwarded/copied > upstream? The author of one of my packages wants that (without being the > maintainer himself). do you really want to forward all "missing build

Re: libraries

2000-10-09 Thread Colin Watson
Alexander Kotelnikov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >But I want to know where it is written about what should go to -dev >package, and what to the library one. /usr/share/doc/debian-policy/policy.html/ch4.html#s4.3 /usr/share/doc/packaging-manual/packaging.html/ch-sharedlibs.html -- Colin Watson

Re: automatic forward of bugreports upstream?

2000-10-09 Thread Christian Surchi
On Mon, Oct 09, 2000 at 02:02:36PM +0200, Christian T. Steigies wrote: > Hi, > is it possible to get bugreports of a package automatically forwarded/copied > upstream? The author of one of my packages wants that (without being the > maintainer himself). Use your procmail/maildrop to do it. :) --

automatic forward of bugreports upstream?

2000-10-09 Thread Christian T. Steigies
Hi, is it possible to get bugreports of a package automatically forwarded/copied upstream? The author of one of my packages wants that (without being the maintainer himself). Christian -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTE

Re: Trying to begin

2000-10-09 Thread Frederico S. Muñoz
- Original Message - From: "Simon Richter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Frederico S. Muñoz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, October 09, 2000 6:22 AM Subject: Re: Trying to begin > On 9 Oct 2000, Frederico S. Muñoz wrote: > > > Having said that, I would like to know

Re: libraries

2000-10-09 Thread Alexander Kotelnikov
On Sun, Oct 08, 2000 at 11:49:09PM +0200, Christian Marillat wrote: > > AK> I have not packaged libraries yet, and I'm going to do. What is the > easyest > AK> way to start? > > Take a diff file from a lib package (maybe libgdk-pixbuf2) and see how this > work. of course I did so. But I want

Re: libraries

2000-10-09 Thread Colin Watson
Alexander Kotelnikov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >But I want to know where it is written about what should go to -dev >package, and what to the library one. /usr/share/doc/debian-policy/policy.html/ch4.html#s4.3 /usr/share/doc/packaging-manual/packaging.html/ch-sharedlibs.html -- Colin Watso

Re: libraries

2000-10-09 Thread Alexander Kotelnikov
On Sun, Oct 08, 2000 at 11:49:09PM +0200, Christian Marillat wrote: > > AK> I have not packaged libraries yet, and I'm going to do. What is the easyest > AK> way to start? > > Take a diff file from a lib package (maybe libgdk-pixbuf2) and see how this > work. of course I did so. But I want to

Re: Trying to begin

2000-10-09 Thread Simon Richter
On 9 Oct 2000, Frederico S. Muñoz wrote: > Having said that, I would like to know if extensive use of a package > is a requirement for maintaining the deb (e.g. the gprolog maintainer > uses gprolog extensively) or one can do a good job by mastering the > debian packaging tools, submission proces