Re: Biological data being used by an unpublished research paper is considered proprietary

2013-09-25 Thread Steve Langasek
On Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 12:59:11PM +0100, Peter Rice wrote: > On 16/09/2013 11:31, Faheem Mitha wrote: > >This is really not Debian-related, except insofar as the software in > >question is something that might have been in Debian one day. I talked > >about that with people on debian-med recently.

Re: Biological data being used by an unpublished research paper is considered proprietary

2013-09-25 Thread Faheem Mitha
Hi Steve, On Wed, 25 Sep 2013, Steve Langasek wrote: On Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 12:59:11PM +0100, Peter Rice wrote: On 16/09/2013 11:31, Faheem Mitha wrote: This is really not Debian-related, except insofar as the software in question is something that might have been in Debian one day. I t

Re: Biological data being used by an unpublished research paper is considered proprietary

2013-09-25 Thread Karsten Hilbert
If purely natural facts were considered copyrightable (! - nothing IS copyrightable unless considered so) that would mean no one were allowed to re-research nature. Sequence a gene ? Nope, already sequenced. That's absurd. However, this intuitive logic applies to the *pure* "natural" fact *only*,

Re: Biological data being used by an unpublished research paper is considered proprietary

2013-09-25 Thread Karsten Hilbert
On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 10:24:07PM +0200, Karsten Hilbert wrote: > It's an extremely fine line to walk. And greed, stupidity, > and fear will make worse of it. At least in recent years a movement has arisen to demand and try to make mandatory publication of unrigged facts, regardless of license.

Re: Biological data being used by an unpublished research paper is considered proprietary

2013-09-25 Thread Karsten Hilbert
On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 10:37:18PM +0530, Faheem Mitha wrote: > It is not really a big > deal either way, but if I had some definite information There is no definite information to be had because it is exactly that: different opinion in different places. And that's mostly due to people being eit