Re: Supporting armel/armhf in wheezy-lts

2016-04-25 Thread Santiago Ruano Rincón
El 25/04/16 a las 02:07, Luca Filipozzi escribió: > On Sun, Apr 24, 2016 at 09:55:10AM +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > > Do you have some concrete suggestions? > > Decrease the separation by moving the funds management into Debian proper (via > a TO like SPI) and move to a bounty model for working

Re: Supporting armel/armhf in wheezy-lts

2016-04-25 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi, just nitpicking about a single detail here… On Sun, Apr 24, 2016 at 09:55:10AM +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > The reason why I did it within Freexian is that it was just the simplest > way to get it started and to prove that given some sane rules it's > possible to not harm the Debian commun

Re: Call for tests: Making OpenJDK 7 the default in Wheezy LTS

2016-04-25 Thread Rene Engelhard
Hi, On Wed, Apr 20, 2016 at 06:22:51PM +0200, Markus Koschany wrote: > I would like to ask everyone who uses Java in server or desktop > environments to test their applications with OpenJDK 7 and to prepare > for the switch. This can be achieved by installing either openjdk-7-jre > or openjdk-7-jr

Re: Call for tests: Making OpenJDK 7 the default in Wheezy LTS

2016-04-25 Thread Markus Koschany
Am 25.04.2016 um 11:41 schrieb Rene Engelhard: > Hi, > > On Wed, Apr 20, 2016 at 06:22:51PM +0200, Markus Koschany wrote: >> I would like to ask everyone who uses Java in server or desktop >> environments to test their applications with OpenJDK 7 and to prepare >> for the switch. This can be achie

Re: Call for tests: Making OpenJDK 7 the default in Wheezy LTS

2016-04-25 Thread Rene Engelhard
Hi, On Mon, Apr 25, 2016 at 12:17:52PM +0200, Markus Koschany wrote: > we are mainly concerned about runtime issues with OpenJDK 7. Libreoffice > declares dependencies on default-jre | openjdk-7-jre, so I believe it > should be fine. I am aware of build failures with OpenJDK 7 and I think > that c

Re: Call for tests: Making OpenJDK 7 the default in Wheezy LTS

2016-04-25 Thread Holger Levsen
On Mon, Apr 25, 2016 at 12:17:52PM +0200, Markus Koschany wrote: > I think in those cases it is reasonable to recommend to manually change > build dependencies back to OpenJDK 6 because rebuilding a package does > not pose a security risk and should never happen on production systems > anyway. I d

Re: Call for tests: Making OpenJDK 7 the default in Wheezy LTS

2016-04-25 Thread Markus Koschany
Am 25.04.2016 um 12:23 schrieb Rene Engelhard: > Hi, > > On Mon, Apr 25, 2016 at 12:17:52PM +0200, Markus Koschany wrote: >> we are mainly concerned about runtime issues with OpenJDK 7. Libreoffice >> declares dependencies on default-jre | openjdk-7-jre, so I believe it >> should be fine. I am awa

Re: Call for tests: Making OpenJDK 7 the default in Wheezy LTS

2016-04-25 Thread Rene Engelhard
Hi, On Mon, Apr 25, 2016 at 12:34:53PM +0200, Markus Koschany wrote: > Am 25.04.2016 um 12:23 schrieb Rene Engelhard: > > On Mon, Apr 25, 2016 at 12:17:52PM +0200, Markus Koschany wrote: > >> we are mainly concerned about runtime issues with OpenJDK 7. Libreoffice > >> declares dependencies on def

Re: Call for tests: Making OpenJDK 7 the default in Wheezy LTS

2016-04-25 Thread Markus Koschany
Am 25.04.2016 um 12:23 schrieb Holger Levsen: > On Mon, Apr 25, 2016 at 12:17:52PM +0200, Markus Koschany wrote: >> I think in those cases it is reasonable to recommend to manually change >> build dependencies back to OpenJDK 6 because rebuilding a package does >> not pose a security risk and shoul

Re: Call for tests: Making OpenJDK 7 the default in Wheezy LTS

2016-04-25 Thread Holger Levsen
On Mon, Apr 25, 2016 at 01:07:54PM +0200, Markus Koschany wrote: > I have discussed this on debian-java already but in short I had to > ponder about several things and one thing was how to spend our resources > responsibly. Of course I can fix all build failures in Wheezy LTS but > fixing 140 bugs

Re: Supporting armel/armhf in wheezy-lts

2016-04-25 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Mon, 2016-04-25 at 02:07 +, Luca Filipozzi wrote: > On Sun, Apr 24, 2016 at 09:55:10AM +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > > > > Do you have some concrete suggestions? > Decrease the separation by moving the funds management into Debian proper (via > a TO like SPI) and move to a bounty model fo

Re: Supporting armel/armhf in wheezy-lts

2016-04-25 Thread Raphael Hertzog
Hi, this is really getting off-topic from the initial discussion, so I'm dropping all lists except LTS and I add the leader in the loop (he was already following it but through debian-wb-team AFAIK). On Mon, 25 Apr 2016, Luca Filipozzi wrote: > On Sun, Apr 24, 2016 at 09:55:10AM +0200, Raphael He

Re: Supporting armel/armhf in wheezy-lts

2016-04-25 Thread Antoine Beaupré
On 2016-04-25 09:27:34, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > - I don't think that the bounty model gives the correct incentive for > the security work, and you would have a hard time covering the hard > packages... I think this is a critical part of it. Bounties are fine and fun if you want to scratch an

Re: Supporting armel/armhf in wheezy-lts

2016-04-25 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Mon, 25 Apr 2016, Antoine Beaupré wrote: > On 2016-04-25 09:27:34, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > > - I don't think that the bounty model gives the correct incentive for > > the security work, and you would have a hard time covering the hard > > packages... > > I think this is a critical part of

Re: Supporting armel/armhf in wheezy-lts

2016-04-25 Thread Mehdi Dogguy
Hi, (fwiw, I am dropping all CCs except debian-lts) On 23/04/2016 14:41, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > Concerning the other concerns that you brought up, they do not seem > specific to the support of the armel/armhf architectures. They > rather question the LTS project as a whole and the usage of mone