Re: Re: Packages not supportable in squeeze-lts

2014-05-25 Thread Raphael Geissert
On Thursday 22 May 2014 13:33:26 Moritz Muehlenhoff wrote: [...] > ffmpeg > -> I think we need to end official support. Raphael's backport with > limited scope can be released as a best-effort package, but even for > non-obscure codecs like MPEG4 the 0.5-based version lacks far too many > things to

Re: Packages not supportable in squeeze-lts

2014-05-22 Thread Moritz Muehlenhoff
On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 02:01:45AM +0200, Carlos Alberto Lopez Perez wrote: > I would rather invest my efforts in upgrading my Asterisk deployment. > > Hopefully for wheezy LTS we could support it, since the version on > wheezy matches the one that upstream has picked as LTS. Ack, that sounds lik

Re: Packages not supportable in squeeze-lts

2014-05-22 Thread Carlos Alberto Lopez Perez
On 19/05/14 15:51, Moritz Mühlenhoff wrote: > On Fri, May 16, 2014 at 02:02:30PM +0200, Carlos Alberto Lopez Perez wrote: >> On 16/05/14 07:12, Moritz Muehlenhoff wrote: >>> Based on my experience with security support in oldstable and/or feedback >>> received from upstream or maintainers so far I

Re: Packages not supportable in squeeze-lts

2014-05-22 Thread Christoph Biedl
Mathieu Parent (Debian) wrote... > As this package doesn't have Vcs-* fields, I wonder where is its > source code versionned? On my disk, modulo the recent changes by Moritz. And yes, that's not the best place now that package has left the larval state. Give me a day or two to find the documentat

Re: Packages not supportable in squeeze-lts

2014-05-22 Thread Guido Günther
On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 01:33:26PM +0200, Moritz Muehlenhoff wrote: > qemu-kvm / libvirt / xen > -> unless there's a dedicated volunteer, I'll mark it as unsupported > soonm > > > icedove > -> Guido, what are the plans? Maybe reconsider for wheezy-lts? > Alternatively we could also limit the supp

Re: Packages not supportable in squeeze-lts

2014-05-22 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Thu, 22 May 2014, Yves-Alexis Perez wrote: > On jeu., 2014-05-22 at 13:33 +0200, Moritz Muehlenhoff wrote: > > asterisk / wordpress > > -> These was discussed but no real final status yet? Anyone stepping > > forward? > > I think I can volunteer for wordpress provided Raphaël is interested > to

Re: Packages not supportable in squeeze-lts

2014-05-22 Thread Mathieu Parent (Debian)
2014-05-22 13:33 GMT+02:00 Moritz Muehlenhoff : [...] >> I've uploaded a first release of debian-security-support to squeeze-lts [...] Hi Moritz, As this package doesn't have Vcs-* fields, I wonder where is its source code versionned? Regards -- Mathieu Parent -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to de

Re: Packages not supportable in squeeze-lts

2014-05-22 Thread Yves-Alexis Perez
On jeu., 2014-05-22 at 13:33 +0200, Moritz Muehlenhoff wrote: > asterisk / wordpress > -> These was discussed but no real final status yet? Anyone stepping > forward? I think I can volunteer for wordpress provided Raphaël is interested too… Regards, -- Yves-Alexis signature.asc Description: Th

Re: Packages not supportable in squeeze-lts

2014-05-22 Thread Moritz Muehlenhoff
On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 12:22:07PM +0200, Moritz Muehlenhoff wrote: > On Fri, May 16, 2014 at 07:12:10AM +0200, Moritz Muehlenhoff wrote: > > Hi, > > a range of packages will not be supportable in squeeze-lts. But since we > > have now have the debian-security-support package we can transparently >

Re: Packages not supportable in squeeze-lts

2014-05-19 Thread Jan Ingvoldstad
On 19. mai 2014, at 15:27, Moritz Muehlenhoff wrote: > On Mon, May 19, 2014 at 08:52:04AM +0200, Jan Ingvoldstad wrote: >> On 16. mai 2014, at 22:07, Matt Palmer wrote: >>> >>> On the other hand, I do like the idea of providing alternate kernels, >>> although I wonder if the regular backported

Re: Packages not supportable in squeeze-lts

2014-05-19 Thread Moritz Mühlenhoff
On Fri, May 16, 2014 at 05:39:05PM +0200, Moritz Muehlenhoff wrote: > On Fri, May 16, 2014 at 10:14:32AM +0200, Jan Ingvoldstad wrote: > > WordPress as of 2.9 has few-click updates from wp-admin. > > WordPress as of 3.7 has automated updates of security releases. > > > > So, for updates at least,

Re: Packages not supportable in squeeze-lts

2014-05-19 Thread Moritz Mühlenhoff
On Fri, May 16, 2014 at 10:35:01AM +0200, Guido Günther wrote: > On Fri, May 16, 2014 at 10:04:03AM +0200, Yves-Alexis Perez wrote: > > On ven., 2014-05-16 at 07:12 +0200, Moritz Muehlenhoff wrote: > > > > > These are already end-of-lifed in oldstable: > > > chromium-browser > > > iceweasel (it w

Re: Packages not supportable in squeeze-lts

2014-05-19 Thread Moritz Mühlenhoff
On Fri, May 16, 2014 at 02:02:30PM +0200, Carlos Alberto Lopez Perez wrote: > On 16/05/14 07:12, Moritz Muehlenhoff wrote: > > Based on my experience with security support in oldstable and/or feedback > > received from upstream or maintainers so far I would like to propose > > to exempt the follo

Re: Re: Packages not supportable in squeeze-lts

2014-05-19 Thread Moritz Mühlenhoff
On Sat, May 17, 2014 at 09:30:40PM +0100, Dominic Hargreaves wrote: > On Sat, May 17, 2014 at 09:43:20AM +0200, Raphael Geissert wrote: > > On Friday 16 May 2014 17:39:02 Moritz Muehlenhoff wrote: > > [...] > > > What could be done is to provide the wheezy kernel with the source package > > > name

Re: Packages not supportable in squeeze-lts

2014-05-19 Thread Moritz Muehlenhoff
On Mon, May 19, 2014 at 08:52:04AM +0200, Jan Ingvoldstad wrote: > On 16. mai 2014, at 22:07, Matt Palmer wrote: > > > > On the other hand, I do like the idea of providing alternate kernels, > > although I wonder if the regular backported kernel isn't enough for people? > > No, they're not, beca

Re: Packages not supportable in squeeze-lts

2014-05-19 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le samedi 17 mai 2014 à 10:44 +0200, Christoph Biedl a écrit : > Agreed. You get a 2010 Linux, it might run on 2015-ish hardware but > don't hold your breath. When you have a 2010 application (and I mean a 1995 application last rebuilt in 2010) and the only thing you can buy is 2015 hardware, you

Re: Packages not supportable in squeeze-lts

2014-05-19 Thread Matt Palmer
On Mon, May 19, 2014 at 08:52:04AM +0200, Jan Ingvoldstad wrote: > On 16. mai 2014, at 22:07, Matt Palmer wrote: > > On the other hand, I do like the idea of providing alternate kernels, > > although I wonder if the regular backported kernel isn't enough for people? > > No, they're not, because t

Re: Packages not supportable in squeeze-lts

2014-05-18 Thread Jan Ingvoldstad
On 16. mai 2014, at 22:07, Matt Palmer wrote: > > On the other hand, I do like the idea of providing alternate kernels, > although I wonder if the regular backported kernel isn't enough for people? No, they're not, because there isn't security support as we understand it in the stable branch.

Re: Re: Packages not supportable in squeeze-lts

2014-05-17 Thread Dominic Hargreaves
On Sat, May 17, 2014 at 09:43:20AM +0200, Raphael Geissert wrote: > On Friday 16 May 2014 17:39:02 Moritz Muehlenhoff wrote: > [...] > > What could be done is to provide the wheezy kernel with the source package > > name linux-3.2. This way it would benefit from all the security backports > > done

Re: Packages not supportable in squeeze-lts

2014-05-17 Thread Matt Palmer
On Sat, May 17, 2014 at 10:44:39AM +0200, Christoph Biedl wrote: > Matt Palmer wrote... > > > My > > use-case for LTS, at the very least, is more about keeping existing machines > > running and secure, rather than continuing to deploy squeeze machines onto > > new generations of hardware. > > Agr

Re: Packages not supportable in squeeze-lts

2014-05-17 Thread Christoph Biedl
Carlos Alberto Lopez Perez wrote... > I'm interested in having Asterisk supported. Well, I volunteered to do asterisk tests as requested in the original "Bits from the security team" message. So once my setup is up and running, I could extend it to squeeze. > Could you elaborate on what are the

Re: Packages not supportable in squeeze-lts

2014-05-17 Thread Christoph Biedl
Matt Palmer wrote... > My > use-case for LTS, at the very least, is more about keeping existing machines > running and secure, rather than continuing to deploy squeeze machines onto > new generations of hardware. Agreed. You get a 2010 Linux, it might run on 2015-ish hardware but don't hold your

Re: Re: Packages not supportable in squeeze-lts

2014-05-17 Thread Raphael Geissert
On Friday 16 May 2014 17:39:02 Moritz Muehlenhoff wrote: [...] > What could be done is to provide the wheezy kernel with the source package > name linux-3.2. This way it would benefit from all the security backports > done for wheezy-security. I assume you meant just 'linux' here? There's no need