Re: kernel updates - was: adding a kernel from backports

2009-11-14 Thread Daniel Baumann
Rob Owens wrote: > Is it possible to build only the kernel and initrd, without building an > entire system? not really, as one cannot know what the target system has installed or is configured for. if you know it, you would need to replicate that very system - which is basically the same as if you

Re: kernel updates - was: adding a kernel from backports

2009-11-14 Thread Rob Owens
On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 06:29:24AM +0100, Daniel Baumann wrote: > Rob Owens wrote: > > Would it suffice to copy vmlinuz and initrd from a newly-built image > > into my existing one? (and update the appropriate syslinux files) Or > > is there more to it than that? > > that should do it. but note

Re: kernel updates - was: adding a kernel from backports

2009-11-11 Thread Daniel Baumann
Rob Owens wrote: > Would it suffice to copy vmlinuz and initrd from a newly-built image > into my existing one? (and update the appropriate syslinux files) Or > is there more to it than that? that should do it. but note that the live system does behave different wrt/ kernel updates than regular

Re: kernel updates - was: adding a kernel from backports

2009-11-11 Thread Rob Owens
On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 04:33:11AM +0100, Daniel Baumann wrote: > Rob Owens wrote: > > What's the proper way to handle this? > > as i already said before: kernel selection/inclusion needs to be done at > build time. > > why? because vmlinuz and initrd that are used to boot are in the binary > ima

Re: kernel updates - was: adding a kernel from backports

2009-11-10 Thread Daniel Baumann
Rob Owens wrote: > What's the proper way to handle this? as i already said before: kernel selection/inclusion needs to be done at build time. why? because vmlinuz and initrd that are used to boot are in the binary image, not in the filesystem. -- Address:Daniel Baumann, Burgunderstrasse

Re: kernel updates - was: adding a kernel from backports

2009-11-10 Thread Rob Owens
I attempted to upgrade my live system (persistent), including a kernel upgrade. I got basically the same message as what's shown below. Note that I'm not attempting to use a kernel from backports.org this time, but a standard Debian kernel. What's the proper way to handle this? -Rob On Fr

Re: adding a kernel from backports

2009-11-07 Thread Daniel Baumann
Rob Owens wrote: > In order to get a wireless card working, I need to install a kernel from > lenny backports. lenny backports as available from backports.org is not suitable for debian-live (missing modules). > Is there any reason not to do this on a live system? because it's useless? kernel se