On Thu, 29 Aug 2013 19:20:03 -0300
Ben Armstrong wrote:
> All I was trying to convey is many live users have their own use cases
> and each one might think their own use case should be covered in the
> default images. But we do have a flexible set of tools that can be
> used to address everyone's
On Thu, 29 Aug 2013 22:41:45 +0200
chals wrote:
> I think you are missing the point that Ben is patiently trying to make
> since the very beginning of this thread. He is talking about
> "flexibility" all the time whereas you seem to have those packages
> "hardcoded" in your argumentation.
If you
On Wed, 28 Aug 2013 19:58:00 -0300
Ben Armstrong wrote:
>> one of the things that people very commonly want to do with a live
>> ISO is access their existing filesystems, when they can't boot off
>> them for some reason. LVM and RAID are not rare or unusual; they are
>> standard for any serious i
On Wed, 28 Aug 2013 16:50:08 -0300
Ben Armstrong wrote:
> I didn't say that I agree that they should be included in the desktop
> ISO images. I agreed merely that the packages are useful. (In case you
> thought I was saying they aren't.) However, I can think of tons of
> useful packages that coul
On Wed, 28 Aug 2013 06:04:33 -0300
Ben Armstrong wrote:
>> If you agree that it would be beneficial to include these packages in
>> the desktop ISO images, then surely it is the intended purpose of
>> "live-tools" to accomplish things like that.
>
> No, the intended purpose of live-tools is to p
On Tue, 27 Aug 2013 23:29:05 -0300
Ben Armstrong wrote:
>> Then on what basis are the packages for the "rescue" live ISO
>> selected, since there doesn't seem to be any corresponding Debian
>> task package?
> Historical anomaly. See:
>
> http://live.debian.net/gitweb/?p=live-images.git
>
> It
On Tue, 27 Aug 2013 21:20:55 -0300
Ben Armstrong wrote:
> We don't pick and choose individual packages to include or exclude
> from the live images, but simply install what would be present in a
> default install of each of these desktops. So, for example, if the
> maintainers of task-desktop-gno
I would like to propose that the graphical live ISO images
{GNOME,KDE,LXDE,Xfce} include the lvm2 and mdadm packages; currently it
seems that they do not.
I am aware that there is a non-graphical "rescue" image which includes
these packages, but there is no reason why you should have to sacrifice
