Re: LVM and RAID

2013-08-28 Thread ian_bruce
On Wed, 28 Aug 2013 19:58:00 -0300 Ben Armstrong wrote: >> one of the things that people very commonly want to do with a live >> ISO is access their existing filesystems, when they can't boot off >> them for some reason. LVM and RAID are not rare or unusual; they are >> standard for any serious i

Re: LVM and RAID

2013-08-28 Thread Ben Armstrong
On 28/08/13 08:07 PM, Daniel Reichelt wrote: >> Maintained by someone (are you volunteering?) outside the Debian Live >> project? Sure! Go for it! :) > > well, why not? will you sponsor me? i'm not a debian maintainer yet. Maybe I was being a bit too flip. :) Even if we had a straight up translat

Re: LVM and RAID

2013-08-28 Thread Daniel Reichelt
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 > Maintained by someone (are you volunteering?) outside the Debian Live > project? Sure! Go for it! :) well, why not? will you sponsor me? i'm not a debian maintainer yet. Daniel -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Commen

Re: LVM and RAID

2013-08-28 Thread Daniel Reichelt
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 >> Why task-live? What makes these "live" things. I'm just not seeing it. > > Because one of the things that people very commonly want to do with a > live ISO is access their existing filesystems, when they can't boot off > them for some reason. LVM a

Re: LVM and RAID

2013-08-28 Thread Ben Armstrong
On 28/08/13 07:42 PM, Daniel Reichelt wrote: > solution-oriented proposal: how about a new package called "task-rescue"... > ...pulling-in all those historically abnormal packages? (pun intended .-) ) Maintained by someone (are you volunteering?) outside the Debian Live project? Sure! Go for it! :

Re: LVM and RAID

2013-08-28 Thread Ben Armstrong
On 28/08/13 06:41 PM, ian_br...@fastmail.net wrote: > On Wed, 28 Aug 2013 16:50:08 -0300 > Ben Armstrong wrote: >>> Alternatively, create a new pseudo-package called "task-live" which >>> pulls them in, and have that included in the build via either >>> "live.list.chroot" or "standard.list.chroot"

Re: LVM and RAID

2013-08-28 Thread ian_bruce
On Wed, 28 Aug 2013 16:50:08 -0300 Ben Armstrong wrote: > I didn't say that I agree that they should be included in the desktop > ISO images. I agreed merely that the packages are useful. (In case you > thought I was saying they aren't.) However, I can think of tons of > useful packages that coul

Re: LVM and RAID

2013-08-28 Thread ian_bruce
On Wed, 28 Aug 2013 06:04:33 -0300 Ben Armstrong wrote: >> If you agree that it would be beneficial to include these packages in >> the desktop ISO images, then surely it is the intended purpose of >> "live-tools" to accomplish things like that. > > No, the intended purpose of live-tools is to p

Re: LVM and RAID

2013-08-28 Thread Ben Armstrong
On 28/08/13 04:37 PM, ian_br...@fastmail.net wrote: > On Wed, 28 Aug 2013 06:04:33 -0300 > Ben Armstrong wrote: >> No, the intended purpose of live-tools is to provide tools that must >> behave differently in a live environment as alternatives for the >> standard ones, or else other tools providin

Re: LVM and RAID

2013-08-28 Thread Ben Armstrong
On 28/08/13 12:37 AM, ian_br...@fastmail.net wrote: > I note that all the live ISO images include a package called > "live-tools", which is apparently maintained by the Debian Live Project. > > Could I suggest that "lvm2", "mdadm", and "parted" be listed as > dependencies of this package, as "perl