science / thesis resource

2010-12-01 Thread jim
Hi, I wanted to suggest a thesis and dissertation resource that might be useful for your readers: http://www.OpenThesis.org This free database has features such as saved searches, alerts, and portfolios to organize documents. Of course, you can pay for Proquest or use NDLTD, but this is the o

Re: Inappropriate use of Debian logo.

2010-12-01 Thread Arthur Machlas
>> But copyright doesn't apply to independent invention, which he claims this >> is, and which seems fairly reasonable.  If he independently invented it we >> only have a trademark claim; if we don't have a trademark claim we have >> none Have you actually looked at it? It's not similar. It's iden

Re: Inappropriate use of Debian logo.

2010-12-01 Thread Alessandro Rubini
> Can it really be "reasonable", in any sense of the word, to > believe that this company would independently invent an identical > logo, pixel for pixel, changing only the hue. No, not reasonable. Unless both copied from the same swirl. Which seems reasonable. See http://lists.debian.or

Re: Inappropriate use of Debian logo.

2010-12-01 Thread Arthur Machlas
On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 9:06 AM, Alessandro Rubini wrote: >> Can it really be "reasonable", in any sense of the word, to >> believe that this company would independently invent an identical >> logo, pixel for pixel, changing only the hue. > > No, not reasonable. Unless both copied from the same swi

Re: Inappropriate use of Debian logo.

2010-12-01 Thread Michael Cassano
The message from 2005 seems to indicate it was produced using Illustrator, not Photoshop. Attached is an image I just created using Illustrator 14.0.0, my goal was to recreate the Debian logo. I used the 'rough charcoal' brush with the swirl tool. I didn't create the original Debian logo but it

Re: Inappropriate use of Debian logo.

2010-12-01 Thread Mike Hommey
On Wed, Dec 01, 2010 at 10:24:34AM -0600, Michael Cassano wrote: > The message from 2005 seems to indicate it was produced using Illustrator, > not Photoshop. > > Attached is an image I just created using Illustrator 14.0.0, my goal was to > recreate the Debian logo. I used the 'rough charcoal' b

Re: Inappropriate use of Debian logo.

2010-12-01 Thread Michael Cassano
Correct, I swirled it too much, that is my point. What are the odds that the blue logo in question swirled their logo pixel-for-pixel the same as Debian's? I believe the odds are low given the couple minutes of work I put into using the tool (Illustrator). Mike On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 10:30 AM,

Re: Inappropriate use of Debian logo.

2010-12-01 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le mercredi 01 décembre 2010 à 17:30 +0100, Mike Hommey a écrit : > > There is no question in my mind that the blue logo under debate is a copy of > > the Debian logo, followed by a color change. There are too many degrees of > > freedom (beginning of the swirl path, brush thickness, etc). > > Yo

Re: Inappropriate use of Debian logo.

2010-12-01 Thread Mike Hommey
On Wed, Dec 01, 2010 at 10:40:55AM -0600, Michael Cassano wrote: > Correct, I swirled it too much, that is my point. > > What are the odds that the blue logo in question swirled their logo > pixel-for-pixel the same as Debian's? I believe the odds are low given the > couple minutes of work I put

Re: Inappropriate use of Debian logo.

2010-12-01 Thread Francesco Poli
On Tue, 30 Nov 2010 16:47:23 +0100 Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: [...] > Thanks Joss for the Cc, as I'm not subscribed to -legal (so please keep > the Cc on replies). Done. > > I've read the thread and I do have some questions for the list. As far > as I can tell, there is no *trademark* violation

Re: Inappropriate use of Debian logo.

2010-12-01 Thread Steve Langasek
On Sun, Nov 28, 2010 at 10:36:44AM +0100, Alessandro Rubini wrote: > > FYI - A computer shop has taken the Debian logo and used it for his > > business. > > http://imgur.com/gFKfs.jpg > Thank you for making this jpeg, it's very clear. > > [...] > > "The comapny Logo was created by photoshop and

Re: Inappropriate use of Debian logo.

2010-12-01 Thread Mike Hommey
On Wed, Dec 01, 2010 at 02:50:04PM -0800, Steve Langasek wrote: > On Sun, Nov 28, 2010 at 10:36:44AM +0100, Alessandro Rubini wrote: > > > FYI - A computer shop has taken the Debian logo and used it for his > > > business. > > > > http://imgur.com/gFKfs.jpg > > > Thank you for making this jpeg, i

Re: Inappropriate use of Debian logo.

2010-12-01 Thread Michael Cassano
I didn't get the exact parameters needed to obtain Debian's logo, but I did show that they are not default. Mike On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 5:21 PM, Mike Hommey wrote: > On Wed, Dec 01, 2010 at 02:50:04PM -0800, Steve Langasek wrote: > > On Sun, Nov 28, 2010 at 10:36:44AM +0100, Alessandro Rubini w