Re: Bug#451799: new evince cannot display Japanese characters correctly

2007-11-28 Thread Ondřej Surý
> However I don't think there is anything copyrightable in these files; > they only contain series of numbers that describe the mappings. Do you > people think it could be suitable for main? > (Please follow-up on -legal only for licensing discussions.) > > Ondrej, are you willing - if the legal p

Re: Bug#451799: new evince cannot display Japanese characters correctly

2007-11-28 Thread John Halton
> However I don't think there is anything copyrightable in these files; > they only contain series of numbers that describe the mappings. I don't see any reason in principle why "series of numbers that describe the mappings" couldn't be protected by copyright. Could you provide more details of why

Re: Bug#451799: new evince cannot display Japanese characters correctly

2007-11-28 Thread John Halton
On 28/11/2007, Michael Poole <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Based on a quick look, these files establish a correspondence between > different character set encodings. Copyright protects creative > expression. What is the creative part of this mapping? I can see two > possible bases: character sele

Re: Bug#451799: new evince cannot display Japanese characters correctly

2007-11-28 Thread Michael Poole
John Halton writes: >> However I don't think there is anything copyrightable in these files; >> they only contain series of numbers that describe the mappings. > > I don't see any reason in principle why "series of numbers that > describe the mappings" couldn't be protected by copyright. Could you

Re: Bug#451799: new evince cannot display Japanese characters correctly

2007-11-28 Thread Steve Langasek
On Wed, Nov 28, 2007 at 02:43:34PM +, John Halton wrote: > On 28/11/2007, Michael Poole <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Based on a quick look, these files establish a correspondence between > > different character set encodings. Copyright protects creative > > expression. What is the creative

Re: Licensing of iso-codes

2007-11-28 Thread Anthony W. Youngman
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Olive <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes Arnoud Engelfriet wrote: Tobias Toedter wrote: Would it be possible for non-free programs to use that data (XML files and translations) if iso-codes is licensed under GPL? Or would we need to use the LGPL for this? My first thou

Re: Bug#451799: new evince cannot display Japanese characters correctly

2007-11-28 Thread Mike Hommey
On Wed, Nov 28, 2007 at 01:33:07PM -0800, Steve Langasek wrote: > On Wed, Nov 28, 2007 at 02:43:34PM +, John Halton wrote: > > On 28/11/2007, Michael Poole <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Based on a quick look, these files establish a correspondence between > > > different character set encodi

Re: Bug#451799: new evince cannot display Japanese characters correctly

2007-11-28 Thread John Halton
On Wed, Nov 28, 2007 at 01:33:07PM -0800, Steve Langasek wrote: > FWIW, I believe a search of debian-legal archives will show that we've come > to the same conclusion before about copyrightability of non-creative > databases, and are already shipping a number of these in Debian. Thanks, that's use

Re: Bug#451799: new evince cannot display Japanese characters correctly

2007-11-28 Thread Ben Finney
John Halton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Thanks, that's useful to know. I'm still trying to get a feel for > how Debian treats these cases where there is no express licence, how > people weigh up the legal pros and cons. Inconsistently :-) -- \"The World is not dangerous because of th