Re: Request for suggestions of DFSG-free documentation licences

2007-05-24 Thread Marco d'Itri
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >I remember reading that the GFDL is not DFSG-free (due to some clauses >regarding invariant sections or something) so I would like to know what As long as you do not use these optional clauses it is free like any other DFSG license. OTOH, you should ask yourself what is

Re: Scummvm games: software or data? [from gNewSense]

2007-05-24 Thread Marco d'Itri
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >The troublesome clause in the copyright licence is probably >"3) You may not charge a fee for the game itself. This includes reselling the > game as an individual item." > >Does this get into debian because the above is a trivially-avoidable >restriction with a Hello Worl

Re: discussion with the FSF: GPLv3, GFDL, Nexenta

2007-05-24 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2007-05-22 13:30:24, schrieb Sam Hocevar: > 3. Nexenta: Despite their incompatibility, Debian accepts both the > CDDL and GPLv2 as valid free software licences and would welcome any ^^ Can this start a flame now? (I mean cdrtools => Jürg Sch

Re: discussion with the FSF: GPLv3, GFDL, Nexenta

2007-05-24 Thread Pierre Habouzit
On Thu, May 24, 2007 at 07:27:36PM +0200, Michelle Konzack wrote: > Am 2007-05-22 13:30:24, schrieb Sam Hocevar: > > 3. Nexenta: Despite their incompatibility, Debian accepts both the > > CDDL and GPLv2 as valid free software licences and would welcome any > ^

Re: discussion with the FSF: GPLv3, GFDL, Nexenta

2007-05-24 Thread Mike Hommey
On Thu, May 24, 2007 at 07:27:36PM +0200, Michelle Konzack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Am 2007-05-22 13:30:24, schrieb Sam Hocevar: > > 3. Nexenta: Despite their incompatibility, Debian accepts both the > > CDDL and GPLv2 as valid free software licences and would welcome any >

Re: discussion with the FSF: GPLv3, GFDL, Nexenta

2007-05-24 Thread Don Armstrong
On Tue, 22 May 2007, Sam Hocevar wrote: > 3. Nexenta: Despite their incompatibility, Debian accepts both the > CDDL and GPLv2 as valid free software licences and would welcome any > solution to the distribution of a Debian system based on OpenSolaris. This is not the case, unfortunatly, and

Re: discussion with the FSF: GPLv3, GFDL, Nexenta

2007-05-24 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2007-05-24 19:44:38, schrieb Mike Hommey: > On Thu, May 24, 2007 at 07:27:36PM +0200, Michelle Konzack <[EMAIL > PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Am 2007-05-22 13:30:24, schrieb Sam Hocevar: > > > 3. Nexenta: Despite their incompatibility, Debian accepts both the > > > CDDL and GPLv2 as valid free s

Re: (C) vs ©

2007-05-24 Thread MJ Ray
Anthony W. Youngman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > [...] I haven't learnt how to make my keyboard produce a=20 > copyright symbol? Type: Compose o c On GB keyboards, I think that's usually Shift+AltGr o c unless some option like compose:menu was given to X. It's also on Shift+AltGr+c here, but tha

Re: discussion with the FSF: GPLv3, GFDL, Nexenta

2007-05-24 Thread Marco d'Itri
On May 24, Don Armstrong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This is not the case, unfortunatly, and it really would be wise in the > future to consult with people who are familiar with the arguments > surrounding such licenses before expressing Debian's opinion to the > FSF. Do you mean the ftpmasters,

Re: discussion with the FSF: GPLv3, GFDL, Nexenta

2007-05-24 Thread Don Armstrong
On Thu, 24 May 2007, Marco d'Itri wrote: > On May 24, Don Armstrong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > This is not the case, unfortunatly, and it really would be wise in the > > future to consult with people who are familiar with the arguments > > surrounding such licenses before expressing Debian's

Re: discussion with the FSF: GPLv3, GFDL, Nexenta

2007-05-24 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le jeudi 24 mai 2007 à 10:54 -0700, Don Armstrong a écrit : >This License shall be governed by the law of the jurisdiction >specified in a notice contained within the Original Software >(except to the extent applicable law, if any, provides otherwise), >excluding such jurisdiction's

Re: discussion with the FSF: GPLv3, GFDL, Nexenta

2007-05-24 Thread Michael Poole
Josselin Mouette writes: > Le jeudi 24 mai 2007 à 10:54 -0700, Don Armstrong a écrit : >>This License shall be governed by the law of the jurisdiction >>specified in a notice contained within the Original Software >>(except to the extent applicable law, if any, provides otherwise), >>

Re: discussion with the FSF: GPLv3, GFDL, Nexenta

2007-05-24 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le jeudi 24 mai 2007 à 15:36 -0400, Michael Poole a écrit : > > Please stop the choice-of-law bullshit. This clause is moot, we can > > ignore it. > > Moot in what venues? I live in a state that has enacted the Uniform > Computer Information Transactions Act (UCITA), which -- among other > things

Re: discussion with the FSF: GPLv3, GFDL, Nexenta

2007-05-24 Thread Don Armstrong
On Thu, 24 May 2007, Josselin Mouette wrote: > Please stop the choice-of-law bullshit. This clause is moot, we can > ignore it. The problem is not the choice-of-law, but the choice-of-venue clause, as you yourself indicated in.[1] I don't know why it has yet to be removed by Sun, but we were told

Re: discussion with the FSF: GPLv3, GFDL, Nexenta

2007-05-24 Thread Michael Poole
Josselin Mouette writes: > Le jeudi 24 mai 2007 à 15:36 -0400, Michael Poole a écrit : >> > Please stop the choice-of-law bullshit. This clause is moot, we can >> > ignore it. >> >> Moot in what venues? I live in a state that has enacted the Uniform >> Computer Information Transactions Act (UCIT

Re: discussion with the FSF: GPLv3, GFDL, Nexenta

2007-05-24 Thread Marco d'Itri
On May 24, Don Armstrong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The DFSG is a set of guidelines; there are many things that licenses > can do which would be anathema to Free Software but are not > specifically excluded by the DFSG. But still, the first two sentences of the SC read: "We provide the guide